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[VOTE] Tapestry 5.0.15 -- Release Candidate
I've created and uploaded a release of Tapestry 5.0.15, ready to be
voted upon. This is the release candidate.
The files are uploaded to:
http://people.apache.org/~hlship/tapestry-releases/
and a Maven repository:
http://people.apache.org/~hlship/tapestry-ibiblio-rsynch-repository/
Please examine these files to determine if a new preview release,
5.0.15, is ready.
I've also created a 5.0.15 tag in Subversion:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tapestry/tapestry5/tags/releases/5.0.15/
On a successful vote, I'll move the files from these directories to
the proper distribution directories.
Vote will run for three days; on success I'll move the voted artifacts
into place and send out appropriate notifications.
I'm looking forward to having several weeks of exposure of the release
candidate. If no critical, unpatchable errors occur, this can be the
5.0 GA. I'm already looking forward to doing some ambitious things in
the 5.1. release.
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Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
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Re: [VOTE] Tapestry 5.0.15 -- Release Candidate
Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Martin Papy <ma...@liber-mundi.org> wrote:
>
> I can't really test this version because I'm on holidays...
>
> But I thought that the bug with the nested BeanEditor would be a problem for
> a Release Candidate because this is something that new comers to Tapestry
> would probably want to try and the resulting StackOverflow is not very
> useful to understand what is happening => not good for the image of Tapestry
> ?
This is now fixed. I'm going to redo the 5.0.15 build today or
tomorrow and start a new vote.
>
> I know there is a workaround but ...
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2460
>
> Martin
>
>
>
>
> Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
>>
>> I've created and uploaded a release of Tapestry 5.0.15, ready to be
>> voted upon. This is the release candidate.
>>
>> The files are uploaded to:
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~hlship/tapestry-releases/
>>
>> and a Maven repository:
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~hlship/tapestry-ibiblio-rsynch-repository/
>>
>> Please examine these files to determine if a new preview release,
>> 5.0.15, is ready.
>>
>> I've also created a 5.0.15 tag in Subversion:
>>
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tapestry/tapestry5/tags/releases/5.0.15/
>>
>> On a successful vote, I'll move the files from these directories to
>> the proper distribution directories.
>>
>> Vote will run for three days; on success I'll move the voted artifacts
>> into place and send out appropriate notifications.
>>
>> I'm looking forward to having several weeks of exposure of the release
>> candidate. If no critical, unpatchable errors occur, this can be the
>> 5.0 GA. I'm already looking forward to doing some ambitious things in
>> the 5.1. release.
>>
>> --
>> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>>
>> Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
>>
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Re: [VOTE] Tapestry 5.0.15 -- Release Candidate
Posted by Martin Papy <ma...@liber-mundi.org>.
I can't really test this version because I'm on holidays...
But I thought that the bug with the nested BeanEditor would be a problem for
a Release Candidate because this is something that new comers to Tapestry
would probably want to try and the resulting StackOverflow is not very
useful to understand what is happening => not good for the image of Tapestry
?
I know there is a workaround but ...
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2460
Martin
Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
>
> I've created and uploaded a release of Tapestry 5.0.15, ready to be
> voted upon. This is the release candidate.
>
> The files are uploaded to:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~hlship/tapestry-releases/
>
> and a Maven repository:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~hlship/tapestry-ibiblio-rsynch-repository/
>
> Please examine these files to determine if a new preview release,
> 5.0.15, is ready.
>
> I've also created a 5.0.15 tag in Subversion:
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tapestry/tapestry5/tags/releases/5.0.15/
>
> On a successful vote, I'll move the files from these directories to
> the proper distribution directories.
>
> Vote will run for three days; on success I'll move the voted artifacts
> into place and send out appropriate notifications.
>
> I'm looking forward to having several weeks of exposure of the release
> candidate. If no critical, unpatchable errors occur, this can be the
> 5.0 GA. I'm already looking forward to doing some ambitious things in
> the 5.1. release.
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>
> Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
>
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Re: [VOTE] Tapestry 5.0.15 -- Release Candidate
Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
Howard M. Lewis Ship: -1
A serious bug in the source distribution can't be ignored.
I'm correcting it, and a couple of other bugs. I'll send a [REVOTE]
when it is ready.
As a side note: I'm rushing to get the RC out because I'll be
traveling from Sep. 15 to Oct. 10 and I will not be able to do much
work, especially not big stuff like creating a Tapestry release!
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've created and uploaded a release of Tapestry 5.0.15, ready to be
> voted upon. This is the release candidate.
>
> The files are uploaded to:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~hlship/tapestry-releases/
>
> and a Maven repository:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~hlship/tapestry-ibiblio-rsynch-repository/
>
> Please examine these files to determine if a new preview release,
> 5.0.15, is ready.
>
> I've also created a 5.0.15 tag in Subversion:
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tapestry/tapestry5/tags/releases/5.0.15/
>
> On a successful vote, I'll move the files from these directories to
> the proper distribution directories.
>
> Vote will run for three days; on success I'll move the voted artifacts
> into place and send out appropriate notifications.
>
> I'm looking forward to having several weeks of exposure of the release
> candidate. If no critical, unpatchable errors occur, this can be the
> 5.0 GA. I'm already looking forward to doing some ambitious things in
> the 5.1. release.
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>
> Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
>
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Re: [VOTE] Tapestry 5.0.15 -- Release Candidate
Posted by Geoff Callender <ge...@gmail.com>.
On 14/09/2008, at 9:17 AM, Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Geoff Callender
> <ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 0 (non-binding)
>>
>> I appreciate the need to draw a line in the sand, but I know a lot
>> of people
>> will be influenced by whether Tapestry addresses AJAX cleanly.
>>
>> * AjaxFormLoop will waste their time badly because it desperately
>> needs
>> documentation. I've searched the mailing list and no-one seems
>> clear on how
>> to use it. I'd suggest either add an example or remove AjaxFormLoop
>> from the
>> RC.
>
> I hope to do more documentation during the 5.0.15 vote, and during the
> next month or so that we let 5.0.15 gain exposure before starting a GA
> vote.
Thumbs up.
>>
>> * The Select component could really do with a Zone parameter (it
>> has 17
>> votes at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2361 ).
>
> I don't see a patch...
>
> This could be implemented as a mixin on Select.
That sounds like a good thing to say in the doco of Select.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>> On 14/09/2008, at 6:36 AM, Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 0 (non-binding)
>>>>
>>>> looks good except for two things I hoped to see in the RC:
>>>>
>>>> - German messages are still messed up:
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2443
>>>
>>> I've now fixed this. Thanks for the patch. Hope you aren't saying
>>> anything nasty in German :-)
>>>
>>>> - localization for translators is still missing:
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2457 (in fact I
>>>> tried to
>>>> bring this to your attention several times but you didn't even
>>>> comment on
>>>> it...)
>>>
>>> I'm stretched a bit thin, and if I don't get 5.0.15 out today or
>>> tomorrow its going to wait until October.
>>>
>>> In any case, 2457 is going to slip to release 5.1. Your
>>> workaround is
>>> to override TranslatorSource with your own service, with your own
>>> set
>>> of Translators. Sorry, I'm really trying to restrict changes at
>>> this
>>> point to things that can't be monkey patched it some way.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Uli
>>>>
>>>> Howard Lewis Ship schrieb:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've created and uploaded a release of Tapestry 5.0.15, ready to
>>>>> be
>>>>> voted upon. This is the release candidate.
>>>>>
>>>>> The files are uploaded to:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~hlship/tapestry-releases/
>>>>>
>>>>> and a Maven repository:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~hlship/tapestry-ibiblio-rsynch-repository/
>>>>>
>>>>> Please examine these files to determine if a new preview release,
>>>>> 5.0.15, is ready.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've also created a 5.0.15 tag in Subversion:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tapestry/tapestry5/tags/releases/5.0.15/
>>>>>
>>>>> On a successful vote, I'll move the files from these directories
>>>>> to
>>>>> the proper distribution directories.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vote will run for three days; on success I'll move the voted
>>>>> artifacts
>>>>> into place and send out appropriate notifications.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking forward to having several weeks of exposure of the
>>>>> release
>>>>> candidate. If no critical, unpatchable errors occur, this can
>>>>> be the
>>>>> 5.0 GA. I'm already looking forward to doing some ambitious
>>>>> things in
>>>>> the 5.1. release.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>>>
>>> Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
>>>
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>
>
>
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>
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Re: [VOTE] Tapestry 5.0.15 -- Release Candidate
Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Geoff Callender
<ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 0 (non-binding)
>
> I appreciate the need to draw a line in the sand, but I know a lot of people
> will be influenced by whether Tapestry addresses AJAX cleanly.
>
> * AjaxFormLoop will waste their time badly because it desperately needs
> documentation. I've searched the mailing list and no-one seems clear on how
> to use it. I'd suggest either add an example or remove AjaxFormLoop from the
> RC.
I hope to do more documentation during the 5.0.15 vote, and during the
next month or so that we let 5.0.15 gain exposure before starting a GA
vote.
>
> * The Select component could really do with a Zone parameter (it has 17
> votes at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2361 ).
I don't see a patch...
This could be implemented as a mixin on Select.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Geoff
>
> On 14/09/2008, at 6:36 AM, Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> 0 (non-binding)
>>>
>>> looks good except for two things I hoped to see in the RC:
>>>
>>> - German messages are still messed up:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2443
>>
>> I've now fixed this. Thanks for the patch. Hope you aren't saying
>> anything nasty in German :-)
>>
>>> - localization for translators is still missing:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2457 (in fact I tried to
>>> bring this to your attention several times but you didn't even comment on
>>> it...)
>>
>> I'm stretched a bit thin, and if I don't get 5.0.15 out today or
>> tomorrow its going to wait until October.
>>
>> In any case, 2457 is going to slip to release 5.1. Your workaround is
>> to override TranslatorSource with your own service, with your own set
>> of Translators. Sorry, I'm really trying to restrict changes at this
>> point to things that can't be monkey patched it some way.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Uli
>>>
>>> Howard Lewis Ship schrieb:
>>>>
>>>> I've created and uploaded a release of Tapestry 5.0.15, ready to be
>>>> voted upon. This is the release candidate.
>>>>
>>>> The files are uploaded to:
>>>>
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~hlship/tapestry-releases/
>>>>
>>>> and a Maven repository:
>>>>
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~hlship/tapestry-ibiblio-rsynch-repository/
>>>>
>>>> Please examine these files to determine if a new preview release,
>>>> 5.0.15, is ready.
>>>>
>>>> I've also created a 5.0.15 tag in Subversion:
>>>>
>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tapestry/tapestry5/tags/releases/5.0.15/
>>>>
>>>> On a successful vote, I'll move the files from these directories to
>>>> the proper distribution directories.
>>>>
>>>> Vote will run for three days; on success I'll move the voted artifacts
>>>> into place and send out appropriate notifications.
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking forward to having several weeks of exposure of the release
>>>> candidate. If no critical, unpatchable errors occur, this can be the
>>>> 5.0 GA. I'm already looking forward to doing some ambitious things in
>>>> the 5.1. release.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>>
>> Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
>>
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Re: [VOTE] Tapestry 5.0.15 -- Release Candidate
Posted by Geoff Callender <ge...@gmail.com>.
0 (non-binding)
I appreciate the need to draw a line in the sand, but I know a lot of
people will be influenced by whether Tapestry addresses AJAX cleanly.
* AjaxFormLoop will waste their time badly because it desperately
needs documentation. I've searched the mailing list and no-one seems
clear on how to use it. I'd suggest either add an example or remove
AjaxFormLoop from the RC.
* The Select component could really do with a Zone parameter (it has
17 votes at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2361 ).
Cheers,
Geoff
On 14/09/2008, at 6:36 AM, Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>
> wrote:
>> 0 (non-binding)
>>
>> looks good except for two things I hoped to see in the RC:
>>
>> - German messages are still messed up:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2443
>
> I've now fixed this. Thanks for the patch. Hope you aren't saying
> anything nasty in German :-)
>
>> - localization for translators is still missing:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2457 (in fact I
>> tried to
>> bring this to your attention several times but you didn't even
>> comment on
>> it...)
>
> I'm stretched a bit thin, and if I don't get 5.0.15 out today or
> tomorrow its going to wait until October.
>
> In any case, 2457 is going to slip to release 5.1. Your workaround is
> to override TranslatorSource with your own service, with your own set
> of Translators. Sorry, I'm really trying to restrict changes at this
> point to things that can't be monkey patched it some way.
>
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Uli
>>
>> Howard Lewis Ship schrieb:
>>>
>>> I've created and uploaded a release of Tapestry 5.0.15, ready to be
>>> voted upon. This is the release candidate.
>>>
>>> The files are uploaded to:
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~hlship/tapestry-releases/
>>>
>>> and a Maven repository:
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~hlship/tapestry-ibiblio-rsynch-repository/
>>>
>>> Please examine these files to determine if a new preview release,
>>> 5.0.15, is ready.
>>>
>>> I've also created a 5.0.15 tag in Subversion:
>>>
>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tapestry/tapestry5/tags/releases/
>>> 5.0.15/
>>>
>>> On a successful vote, I'll move the files from these directories to
>>> the proper distribution directories.
>>>
>>> Vote will run for three days; on success I'll move the voted
>>> artifacts
>>> into place and send out appropriate notifications.
>>>
>>> I'm looking forward to having several weeks of exposure of the
>>> release
>>> candidate. If no critical, unpatchable errors occur, this can be
>>> the
>>> 5.0 GA. I'm already looking forward to doing some ambitious
>>> things in
>>> the 5.1. release.
>>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
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>
> Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
>
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Re: [VOTE] Tapestry 5.0.15 -- Release Candidate
Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de> wrote:
> 0 (non-binding)
>
> looks good except for two things I hoped to see in the RC:
>
> - German messages are still messed up:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2443
I've now fixed this. Thanks for the patch. Hope you aren't saying
anything nasty in German :-)
> - localization for translators is still missing:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2457 (in fact I tried to
> bring this to your attention several times but you didn't even comment on
> it...)
I'm stretched a bit thin, and if I don't get 5.0.15 out today or
tomorrow its going to wait until October.
In any case, 2457 is going to slip to release 5.1. Your workaround is
to override TranslatorSource with your own service, with your own set
of Translators. Sorry, I'm really trying to restrict changes at this
point to things that can't be monkey patched it some way.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Uli
>
> Howard Lewis Ship schrieb:
>>
>> I've created and uploaded a release of Tapestry 5.0.15, ready to be
>> voted upon. This is the release candidate.
>>
>> The files are uploaded to:
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~hlship/tapestry-releases/
>>
>> and a Maven repository:
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~hlship/tapestry-ibiblio-rsynch-repository/
>>
>> Please examine these files to determine if a new preview release,
>> 5.0.15, is ready.
>>
>> I've also created a 5.0.15 tag in Subversion:
>>
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tapestry/tapestry5/tags/releases/5.0.15/
>>
>> On a successful vote, I'll move the files from these directories to
>> the proper distribution directories.
>>
>> Vote will run for three days; on success I'll move the voted artifacts
>> into place and send out appropriate notifications.
>>
>> I'm looking forward to having several weeks of exposure of the release
>> candidate. If no critical, unpatchable errors occur, this can be the
>> 5.0 GA. I'm already looking forward to doing some ambitious things in
>> the 5.1. release.
>>
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] Tapestry 5.0.15 -- Release Candidate
Posted by Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>.
0 (non-binding)
looks good except for two things I hoped to see in the RC:
- German messages are still messed up:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2443
- localization for translators is still missing:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2457 (in fact I tried to
bring this to your attention several times but you didn't even comment
on it...)
Cheers,
Uli
Howard Lewis Ship schrieb:
> I've created and uploaded a release of Tapestry 5.0.15, ready to be
> voted upon. This is the release candidate.
>
> The files are uploaded to:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~hlship/tapestry-releases/
>
> and a Maven repository:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~hlship/tapestry-ibiblio-rsynch-repository/
>
> Please examine these files to determine if a new preview release,
> 5.0.15, is ready.
>
> I've also created a 5.0.15 tag in Subversion:
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tapestry/tapestry5/tags/releases/5.0.15/
>
> On a successful vote, I'll move the files from these directories to
> the proper distribution directories.
>
> Vote will run for three days; on success I'll move the voted artifacts
> into place and send out appropriate notifications.
>
> I'm looking forward to having several weeks of exposure of the release
> candidate. If no critical, unpatchable errors occur, this can be the
> 5.0 GA. I'm already looking forward to doing some ambitious things in
> the 5.1. release.
>
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