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using OpenMeetings via LDAP and/or moodle with one account?
Hello,
Is it possible to use OpenMeetings via LDAP and/or a external tool like
moodle only with one account in OM?
The background is: Our users using moodle via LDAP authentication and if
they entering a OM room via moodle the first time a new OM account will
be created. And if these users later login at the GUI of the OM instance
via LDAP authentication a new OM account will be created with the same
username, firstname, lastname and email address like the created one via
moodle.
The other way around: first login via GUI and then login via moodle it
is the same.
How can I avoid these situation, having two accounts for one user?
Thanks for any ideas or hints,
Michael
Re: using OpenMeetings via LDAP and/or moodle with one account?
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I'm afraid it is currently impossible :(
to implement this Moodle plugin should be rewritten
On 4 July 2014 20:18, Michael Wuttke <mi...@beuth-hochschule.de>
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is it possible to use OpenMeetings via LDAP and/or a external tool like
> moodle only with one account in OM?
>
> The background is: Our users using moodle via LDAP authentication and if
> they entering a OM room via moodle the first time a new OM account will
> be created. And if these users later login at the GUI of the OM instance
> via LDAP authentication a new OM account will be created with the same
> username, firstname, lastname and email address like the created one via
> moodle.
>
> The other way around: first login via GUI and then login via moodle it
> is the same.
>
> How can I avoid these situation, having two accounts for one user?
>
> Thanks for any ideas or hints,
> Michael
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: using OpenMeetings via LDAP and/or moodle with one account?
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for sharing this :)
I will release 3.0.3 as soon as red5 1.0.3 will be released (should be
before Jul, 19)
On 7 July 2014 13:24, Juan Carrera <ca...@unizar.es> wrote:
> Hi,
> With OM 2.x we modified Moodle plugin to use moodle username instead
> of moodle id and we create OM users in a nightly cron, synchronizing with
> LDAP. That way our users have only one account in OM.
> With OM 3 you have to use 3.0.3. Maxim made some changes in ACLs and in
> our test we could use same user both from login screen and from moodle. But
> I don't know if 3.0.3 it's production ready.
>
>
> El 04/07/14 15:18, Michael Wuttke escribió:
>
> Hello,
>
> Is it possible to use OpenMeetings via LDAP and/or a external tool like
> moodle only with one account in OM?
>
> The background is: Our users using moodle via LDAP authentication and if
> they entering a OM room via moodle the first time a new OM account will
> be created. And if these users later login at the GUI of the OM instance
> via LDAP authentication a new OM account will be created with the same
> username, firstname, lastname and email address like the created one via
> moodle.
>
> The other way around: first login via GUI and then login via moodle it
> is the same.
>
> How can I avoid these situation, having two accounts for one user?
>
> Thanks for any ideas or hints,
> Michael
>
>
>
> --
> [image: Logotipo del servicio de informática y comunicaciones.
> Universidad Zaragoza]
>
> *Juan Ramón Carrera Marcén *
> * Área de gestión*
> Residencia de profesores
> Pedro Cerbuna 12, 50009 Zaragoza
> Tel. (34) 876553689
> carreraj@unizar.es
>
> [image: unizar.es]
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: using OpenMeetings via LDAP and/or moodle with one account?
Posted by Michael Wuttke <mi...@beuth-hochschule.de>.
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Hello Juan,
Thanks a lost for your hint,
Michael
Am 07.07.2014 12:54, schrieb Juan Carrera:
> Sure, for moodle module version 2013032500 (OM 2.x) in
> openmeetings_gateway.php there are two ocurrences of:
> '&externalUserId='.$userId . You should change it to:
> '&externalUserId='.urlencode($username) .
>
> That way externalUserId is not anymore Moodle's User id, but it's
> still unique and is "more predictable". When we create OM user
> (from ldap data) we write username also as externalUserId.
>
>
>
> El 07/07/14 12:09, Michael Wuttke escribió:
>> Hello Juan,
>>
>> could you provide your modifications you made in the Moodle
>> plugin her in the user mailing list?
>>
>> Thanks, Michael
>>
>> Am 07.07.2014 08:24, schrieb Juan Carrera:
>>> Hi, With OM 2.x we modified Moodle plugin to use moodle
>>> username instead of moodle id and we create OM users in a
>>> nightly cron, synchronizing with LDAP. That way our users have
>>> only one account in OM. With OM 3 you have to use 3.0.3. Maxim
>>> made some changes in ACLs and in our test we could use same
>>> user both from login screen and from moodle. But I don't know
>>> if 3.0.3 it's production ready.
>>>
>>>
>>> El 04/07/14 15:18, Michael Wuttke escribió:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible to use OpenMeetings via LDAP and/or a
>>>> external tool like moodle only with one account in OM?
>>>>
>>>> The background is: Our users using moodle via LDAP
>>>> authentication and if they entering a OM room via moodle the
>>>> first time a new OM account will be created. And if these
>>>> users later login at the GUI of the OM instance via LDAP
>>>> authentication a new OM account will be created with the same
>>>> username, firstname, lastname and email address like the
>>>> created one via moodle.
>>>>
>>>> The other way around: first login via GUI and then login via
>>>> moodle it is the same.
>>>>
>>>> How can I avoid these situation, having two accounts for one
>>>> user?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any ideas or hints, Michael
>>>>
>>> -- Logotipo del servicio de informática y comunicaciones.
>>> Universidad Zaragoza
>>>
>>> *Juan Ramón Carrera Marcén * * Área de gestión*
>>>
>>> Residencia de profesores Pedro Cerbuna 12, 50009 Zaragoza Tel.
>>> (34) 876553689 carreraj@unizar.es <ma...@unizar.es>
>>>
>>> unizar.es
>
> -- Logotipo del servicio de informática y comunicaciones.
> Universidad Zaragoza
>
> *Juan Ramón Carrera Marcén * * Área de gestión*
>
> Residencia de profesores Pedro Cerbuna 12, 50009 Zaragoza Tel. (34)
> 876553689 carreraj@unizar.es <ma...@unizar.es>
>
> unizar.es
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Re: using OpenMeetings via LDAP and/or moodle with one account?
Posted by Michael Wuttke <mi...@beuth-hochschule.de>.
Hello Juan,
please could you send your openmeetings_gateway.php your diff of the
file? I tried your suggestions but it doesn’t work. I've got an user
via moodle with the userid of moodle in the column
om_user.externaluserid and the om_user.type 'user' and I've got an
user via LDAP directly with no entry in the column
om_user.externaluserid and the om_user.type 'ldap'.
Many thanks,
Michael
Am 07.07.2014 um 12:54 schrieb Juan Carrera:
> Sure, for moodle module version 2013032500 (OM 2.x) in
> openmeetings_gateway.php there are two ocurrences of:
> '&externalUserId='.$userId . You should change it to:
> '&externalUserId='.urlencode($username) .
>
> That way externalUserId is not anymore Moodle's User id, but it's
> still unique and is "more predictable". When we create OM user
> (from ldap data) we write username also as externalUserId.
>
>
>
> El 07/07/14 12:09, Michael Wuttke escribió:
>> Hello Juan,
>>
>> could you provide your modifications you made in the Moodle
>> plugin her in the user mailing list?
>>
>> Thanks, Michael
>>
>> Am 07.07.2014 08:24, schrieb Juan Carrera:
>>> Hi, With OM 2.x we modified Moodle plugin to use moodle
>>> username instead of moodle id and we create OM users in a
>>> nightly cron, synchronizing with LDAP. That way our users have
>>> only one account in OM. With OM 3 you have to use 3.0.3. Maxim
>>> made some changes in ACLs and in our test we could use same
>>> user both from login screen and from moodle. But I don't know
>>> if 3.0.3 it's production ready.
>>>
>>>
>>> El 04/07/14 15:18, Michael Wuttke escribió:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible to use OpenMeetings via LDAP and/or a
>>>> external tool like moodle only with one account in OM?
>>>>
>>>> The background is: Our users using moodle via LDAP
>>>> authentication and if they entering a OM room via moodle the
>>>> first time a new OM account will be created. And if these
>>>> users later login at the GUI of the OM instance via LDAP
>>>> authentication a new OM account will be created with the same
>>>> username, firstname, lastname and email address like the
>>>> created one via moodle.
>>>>
>>>> The other way around: first login via GUI and then login via
>>>> moodle it is the same.
>>>>
>>>> How can I avoid these situation, having two accounts for one
>>>> user?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any ideas or hints, Michael
>>>>
>>> -- Logotipo del servicio de informática y comunicaciones.
>>> Universidad Zaragoza
>>>
>>> *Juan Ramón Carrera Marcén * * Área de gestión*
>>>
>>> Residencia de profesores Pedro Cerbuna 12, 50009 Zaragoza Tel.
>>> (34) 876553689 carreraj@unizar.es <ma...@unizar.es>
>>>
>>> unizar.es
>
> -- Logotipo del servicio de informática y comunicaciones.
> Universidad Zaragoza
>
> *Juan Ramón Carrera Marcén * * Área de gestión*
>
> Residencia de profesores Pedro Cerbuna 12, 50009 Zaragoza Tel. (34)
> 876553689 carreraj@unizar.es <ma...@unizar.es>
>
> unizar.es
Re: using OpenMeetings via LDAP and/or moodle with one account?
Posted by Juan Carrera <ca...@unizar.es>.
Sure,
for moodle module version 2013032500 (OM 2.x) in
openmeetings_gateway.php there are two ocurrences of:
'&externalUserId='.$userId .
You should change it to:
'&externalUserId='.urlencode($username) .
That way externalUserId is not anymore Moodle's User id, but it's still
unique and is "more predictable". When we create OM user (from ldap
data) we write username also as externalUserId.
El 07/07/14 12:09, Michael Wuttke escribió:
> Hello Juan,
>
> could you provide your modifications you made in the Moodle plugin her
> in the user mailing list?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>
> Am 07.07.2014 08:24, schrieb Juan Carrera:
>> Hi, With OM 2.x we modified Moodle plugin to use moodle username
>> instead of moodle id and we create OM users in a nightly cron,
>> synchronizing with LDAP. That way our users have only one account
>> in OM. With OM 3 you have to use 3.0.3. Maxim made some changes in
>> ACLs and in our test we could use same user both from login screen
>> and from moodle. But I don't know if 3.0.3 it's production ready.
>>
>>
>> El 04/07/14 15:18, Michael Wuttke escribió:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Is it possible to use OpenMeetings via LDAP and/or a external
>>> tool like moodle only with one account in OM?
>>>
>>> The background is: Our users using moodle via LDAP authentication
>>> and if they entering a OM room via moodle the first time a new OM
>>> account will be created. And if these users later login at the
>>> GUI of the OM instance via LDAP authentication a new OM account
>>> will be created with the same username, firstname, lastname and
>>> email address like the created one via moodle.
>>>
>>> The other way around: first login via GUI and then login via
>>> moodle it is the same.
>>>
>>> How can I avoid these situation, having two accounts for one
>>> user?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any ideas or hints, Michael
>>>
>> -- Logotipo del servicio de informática y comunicaciones.
>> Universidad Zaragoza
>>
>> *Juan Ramón Carrera Marcén * * Área de gestión*
>>
>> Residencia de profesores Pedro Cerbuna 12, 50009 Zaragoza Tel. (34)
>> 876553689 carreraj@unizar.es <ma...@unizar.es>
>>
>> unizar.es
--
Logotipo del servicio de informática y comunicaciones. Universidad Zaragoza
*Juan Ramón Carrera Marcén * *
Área de gestión*
Residencia de profesores
Pedro Cerbuna 12, 50009 Zaragoza
Tel. (34) 876553689
carreraj@unizar.es <ma...@unizar.es>
unizar.es
Re: using OpenMeetings via LDAP and/or moodle with one account?
Posted by Michael Wuttke <mi...@beuth-hochschule.de>.
Hello Juan,
could you provide your modifications you made in the Moodle plugin her
in the user mailing list?
Thanks,
Michael
Am 07.07.2014 08:24, schrieb Juan Carrera:
> Hi, With OM 2.x we modified Moodle plugin to use moodle username
> instead of moodle id and we create OM users in a nightly cron,
> synchronizing with LDAP. That way our users have only one account
> in OM. With OM 3 you have to use 3.0.3. Maxim made some changes in
> ACLs and in our test we could use same user both from login screen
> and from moodle. But I don't know if 3.0.3 it's production ready.
>
>
> El 04/07/14 15:18, Michael Wuttke escribió:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Is it possible to use OpenMeetings via LDAP and/or a external
>> tool like moodle only with one account in OM?
>>
>> The background is: Our users using moodle via LDAP authentication
>> and if they entering a OM room via moodle the first time a new OM
>> account will be created. And if these users later login at the
>> GUI of the OM instance via LDAP authentication a new OM account
>> will be created with the same username, firstname, lastname and
>> email address like the created one via moodle.
>>
>> The other way around: first login via GUI and then login via
>> moodle it is the same.
>>
>> How can I avoid these situation, having two accounts for one
>> user?
>>
>> Thanks for any ideas or hints, Michael
>>
>
> -- Logotipo del servicio de informática y comunicaciones.
> Universidad Zaragoza
>
> *Juan Ramón Carrera Marcén * * Área de gestión*
>
> Residencia de profesores Pedro Cerbuna 12, 50009 Zaragoza Tel. (34)
> 876553689 carreraj@unizar.es <ma...@unizar.es>
>
> unizar.es
Re: using OpenMeetings via LDAP and/or moodle with one account?
Posted by Juan Carrera <ca...@unizar.es>.
Hi,
With OM 2.x we modified Moodle plugin to use moodle username
instead of moodle id and we create OM users in a nightly cron,
synchronizing with LDAP. That way our users have only one account in OM.
With OM 3 you have to use 3.0.3. Maxim made some changes in ACLs and
in our test we could use same user both from login screen and from
moodle. But I don't know if 3.0.3 it's production ready.
El 04/07/14 15:18, Michael Wuttke escribió:
> Hello,
>
> Is it possible to use OpenMeetings via LDAP and/or a external tool like
> moodle only with one account in OM?
>
> The background is: Our users using moodle via LDAP authentication and if
> they entering a OM room via moodle the first time a new OM account will
> be created. And if these users later login at the GUI of the OM instance
> via LDAP authentication a new OM account will be created with the same
> username, firstname, lastname and email address like the created one via
> moodle.
>
> The other way around: first login via GUI and then login via moodle it
> is the same.
>
> How can I avoid these situation, having two accounts for one user?
>
> Thanks for any ideas or hints,
> Michael
>
--
Logotipo del servicio de informática y comunicaciones. Universidad Zaragoza
*Juan Ramón Carrera Marcén * *
Área de gestión*
Residencia de profesores
Pedro Cerbuna 12, 50009 Zaragoza
Tel. (34) 876553689
carreraj@unizar.es <ma...@unizar.es>
unizar.es