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RE: [RELEASES] Preparing for NetBeans 13 vote
I guess we can close the main vote and wait for installer vote in a second time.
Vote on installer are a bit slow.
Eric
-----Message d'origine-----
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Envoyé : lundi 28 février 2022 22:43
À : dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
Objet : Re: [RELEASES] Preparing for NetBeans 13 vote
Hi,
I'm still relatively stuck here, I have a thread open on the Apple Developer forum[1] hopefully that provides some insights...
I did retry the process again this evening, and was able to install the app fine, but as soon as I push it to dist.apache.org and download it, it wont work again :(
Regards
John
[1]: https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/701438
On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 at 17:45, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 at 15:15, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 19:08, Eric Barboni <sk...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry I got network issue, but the maven repo is ready at the
> following url
> > >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1
> 102
> >
> > Thanks Eric! Vote started. I'll aim to wrap up Monday if possible.
>
> OK, that's not going to happen! Other things got in the way today.
>
> Could aim to wrap up tomorrow? Although also wondering whether to
> leave open until at least we know what the situation with the macOS
> installers is?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: [RELEASES] Preparing for NetBeans 13 vote
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, it is really strange, NB13 is a great release, probably the
fattest one so far regarding the number of PR-s in it.
It has lot of bugfixes, stability improvements, but not too much new and
shiny (save partial PHP 8.1 support) for the end user.
Thank you all for make NetBeans 13 to happen!
On 3/4/22 06:41, Neil C Smith wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 14:26, Geertjan Wielenga
> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> So, if we were to have a handful of key features, what would they be?
> Well earlier in thread I had -
>
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 16:38, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
>> I guess for 13 those include bundled nb-javac, FlatLaf as default,
>> Maven (and Gradle?) upgrade, PHP 8.1, .... ????
> See also Junichi's reply, as the PHP 8.1 support is partial in NB13.
>
> Probably other things. Maven is 3.8.4, and there's also basic support
> for Maven Daemon now.
>
> Neil
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Re: [RELEASES] Preparing for NetBeans 13 vote
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Typo in file name, fixed.
Gj
On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 4:28 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/tree/master/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/download/nb13
>
> The Download page is there but somehow not showing up yet so far.
>
> Gj
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 4:05 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Great, thanks. And thanks for this, Laszlo:
>> https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb13/index.html
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 3:41 PM Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 14:26, Geertjan Wielenga
>>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> > So, if we were to have a handful of key features, what would they be?
>>>
>>> Well earlier in thread I had -
>>>
>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 16:38, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> > I guess for 13 those include bundled nb-javac, FlatLaf as default,
>>> > Maven (and Gradle?) upgrade, PHP 8.1, .... ????
>>>
>>> See also Junichi's reply, as the PHP 8.1 support is partial in NB13.
>>>
>>> Probably other things. Maven is 3.8.4, and there's also basic support
>>> for Maven Daemon now.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
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Re: [RELEASES] Preparing for NetBeans 13 vote
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/tree/master/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/download/nb13
The Download page is there but somehow not showing up yet so far.
Gj
On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 4:05 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Great, thanks. And thanks for this, Laszlo:
> https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb13/index.html
>
> Gj
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 3:41 PM Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 14:26, Geertjan Wielenga
>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> > So, if we were to have a handful of key features, what would they be?
>>
>> Well earlier in thread I had -
>>
>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 16:38, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > I guess for 13 those include bundled nb-javac, FlatLaf as default,
>> > Maven (and Gradle?) upgrade, PHP 8.1, .... ????
>>
>> See also Junichi's reply, as the PHP 8.1 support is partial in NB13.
>>
>> Probably other things. Maven is 3.8.4, and there's also basic support
>> for Maven Daemon now.
>>
>> Neil
>>
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Re: [RELEASES] Preparing for NetBeans 13 vote
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Great, thanks. And thanks for this, Laszlo:
https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb13/index.html
Gj
On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 3:41 PM Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 14:26, Geertjan Wielenga
> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > So, if we were to have a handful of key features, what would they be?
>
> Well earlier in thread I had -
>
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 16:38, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
> > I guess for 13 those include bundled nb-javac, FlatLaf as default,
> > Maven (and Gradle?) upgrade, PHP 8.1, .... ????
>
> See also Junichi's reply, as the PHP 8.1 support is partial in NB13.
>
> Probably other things. Maven is 3.8.4, and there's also basic support
> for Maven Daemon now.
>
> Neil
>
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Re: [RELEASES] Preparing for NetBeans 13 vote
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 14:26, Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> So, if we were to have a handful of key features, what would they be?
Well earlier in thread I had -
On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 16:38, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
> I guess for 13 those include bundled nb-javac, FlatLaf as default,
> Maven (and Gradle?) upgrade, PHP 8.1, .... ????
See also Junichi's reply, as the PHP 8.1 support is partial in NB13.
Probably other things. Maven is 3.8.4, and there's also basic support
for Maven Daemon now.
Neil
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Re: [RELEASES] Preparing for NetBeans 13 vote
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
So, if we were to have a handful of key features, what would they be?
Gj
On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 15:24, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 14:16, Geertjan Wielenga
> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > Let me know when all links are ready (aside from Mac) and I’ll create the
> > Download page.
>
> Everything else is now in place.
>
> Neil
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Re: [RELEASES] Preparing for NetBeans 13 vote
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 14:16, Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Let me know when all links are ready (aside from Mac) and I’ll create the
> Download page.
Everything else is now in place.
Neil
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Re: [RELEASES] Preparing for NetBeans 13 vote
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Let me know when all links are ready (aside from Mac) and I’ll create the
Download page.
Gj
On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 14:54, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 13:10, Eric Barboni <sk...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry did the closing when I had the time this morning :/.
>
> No problem, just made me work faster! :-)
>
> > But I move the installer now because the main contenent was moved.
>
> Great! I've moved the Linux installer over too, and will sort out the
> .htaccess update on the VM.
>
> Then over to Geertjan on web pages and announce?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
>
> Neil
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Re: [RELEASES] Preparing for NetBeans 13 vote
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 13:10, Eric Barboni <sk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Sorry did the closing when I had the time this morning :/.
No problem, just made me work faster! :-)
> But I move the installer now because the main contenent was moved.
Great! I've moved the Linux installer over too, and will sort out the
.htaccess update on the VM.
Then over to Geertjan on web pages and announce?
Best wishes,
Neil
Neil
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RE: [RELEASES] Preparing for NetBeans 13 vote
Posted by Eric Barboni <sk...@apache.org>.
Sorry did the closing when I had the time this morning :/.
But I move the installer now because the main contenent was moved.
Eric
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>
Envoyé : vendredi 4 mars 2022 11:46
À : dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
Objet : Re: [RELEASES] Preparing for NetBeans 13 vote
Hi,
Working on closing main vote this morning. Other votes shouldn't really be closed or artefacts moved until that's done.
Thanks,
Neil
On Tue, 1 Mar 2022, 15:38 Neil C Smith, <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My thought was that I'd rather know if the macOS installer issue is
> anything that might require changes and discussion of a whole new
> vote. I very much hope not! And we have allowed a minor patch to the
> macOS installer build after main vote before.
>
> But as we usually announce when everything is ready, I don't see an
> issue in holding the vote open another day or two to see if we find an
> answer? At least pulling it remains an option. After that, if other
> installers and VSNetBeans ready, we then need to make a decision on
> announcing without a macOS installer while that issue is addressed?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 10:18, Eric Barboni <sk...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > I guess we can close the main vote and wait for installer vote in a
> second time.
> >
> > Vote on installer are a bit slow.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : John Mc <mc...@gmail.com> Envoyé : lundi 28 février
> > 2022 22:43 À : dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org> Objet : Re: [RELEASES]
> > Preparing for NetBeans 13 vote
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm still relatively stuck here, I have a thread open on the Apple
> Developer forum[1] hopefully that provides some insights...
> >
> > I did retry the process again this evening, and was able to install
> > the
> app fine, but as soon as I push it to dist.apache.org and download it,
> it wont work again :(
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John
> >
> > [1]: https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/701438
> >
> > On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 at 17:45, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 at 15:15, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 19:08, Eric Barboni <sk...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry I got network issue, but the maven repo is ready at the
> > > following url
> > > > >
> > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbea
> > > ns-1
> > > 102
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Eric! Vote started. I'll aim to wrap up Monday if possible.
> > >
> > > OK, that's not going to happen! Other things got in the way today.
> > >
> > > Could aim to wrap up tomorrow? Although also wondering whether to
> > > leave open until at least we know what the situation with the
> > > macOS installers is?
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
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Re: [RELEASES] Preparing for NetBeans 13 vote
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
Hi,
Working on closing main vote this morning. Other votes shouldn't really be
closed or artefacts moved until that's done.
Thanks,
Neil
On Tue, 1 Mar 2022, 15:38 Neil C Smith, <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My thought was that I'd rather know if the macOS installer issue is
> anything that might require changes and discussion of a whole new
> vote. I very much hope not! And we have allowed a minor patch to the
> macOS installer build after main vote before.
>
> But as we usually announce when everything is ready, I don't see an
> issue in holding the vote open another day or two to see if we find an
> answer? At least pulling it remains an option. After that, if other
> installers and VSNetBeans ready, we then need to make a decision on
> announcing without a macOS installer while that issue is addressed?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 10:18, Eric Barboni <sk...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > I guess we can close the main vote and wait for installer vote in a
> second time.
> >
> > Vote on installer are a bit slow.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : John Mc <mc...@gmail.com>
> > Envoyé : lundi 28 février 2022 22:43
> > À : dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
> > Objet : Re: [RELEASES] Preparing for NetBeans 13 vote
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm still relatively stuck here, I have a thread open on the Apple
> Developer forum[1] hopefully that provides some insights...
> >
> > I did retry the process again this evening, and was able to install the
> app fine, but as soon as I push it to dist.apache.org and download it, it
> wont work again :(
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John
> >
> > [1]: https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/701438
> >
> > On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 at 17:45, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 at 15:15, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 19:08, Eric Barboni <sk...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry I got network issue, but the maven repo is ready at the
> > > following url
> > > > >
> > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1
> > > 102
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Eric! Vote started. I'll aim to wrap up Monday if possible.
> > >
> > > OK, that's not going to happen! Other things got in the way today.
> > >
> > > Could aim to wrap up tomorrow? Although also wondering whether to
> > > leave open until at least we know what the situation with the macOS
> > > installers is?
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
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Re: [RELEASES] Preparing for NetBeans 13 vote
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
Hi,
My thought was that I'd rather know if the macOS installer issue is
anything that might require changes and discussion of a whole new
vote. I very much hope not! And we have allowed a minor patch to the
macOS installer build after main vote before.
But as we usually announce when everything is ready, I don't see an
issue in holding the vote open another day or two to see if we find an
answer? At least pulling it remains an option. After that, if other
installers and VSNetBeans ready, we then need to make a decision on
announcing without a macOS installer while that issue is addressed?
Best wishes,
Neil
On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 10:18, Eric Barboni <sk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> I guess we can close the main vote and wait for installer vote in a second time.
>
> Vote on installer are a bit slow.
>
> Eric
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : John Mc <mc...@gmail.com>
> Envoyé : lundi 28 février 2022 22:43
> À : dev <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
> Objet : Re: [RELEASES] Preparing for NetBeans 13 vote
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm still relatively stuck here, I have a thread open on the Apple Developer forum[1] hopefully that provides some insights...
>
> I did retry the process again this evening, and was able to install the app fine, but as soon as I push it to dist.apache.org and download it, it wont work again :(
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> [1]: https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/701438
>
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 at 17:45, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 at 15:15, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 19:08, Eric Barboni <sk...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sorry I got network issue, but the maven repo is ready at the
> > following url
> > > >
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1
> > 102
> > >
> > > Thanks Eric! Vote started. I'll aim to wrap up Monday if possible.
> >
> > OK, that's not going to happen! Other things got in the way today.
> >
> > Could aim to wrap up tomorrow? Although also wondering whether to
> > leave open until at least we know what the situation with the macOS
> > installers is?
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Neil
> >
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