sa-update stuck in July

[ji...@jidanni.org]

Gentlemen, what's the deal. I installed the latest version of
spamassassin, and http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RuleUpdates says
run sa-update once a day, and I do, and always I see

>> channel: current version is 556472, new version is 556472, skipping channel

Upon further investigation (which was not helped by a certain "Revert
to revision 23" on
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RuleUpdates?action=info )
by examining the TCP streams (actually just
http://localhost:8080/index/lasttime), as even sa-update -D will not
divulge just where it is getting its updates from, I find

$ wwwoffle -O http://daryl.dostech.ca/sa-update/asf/556472.tar.gz|grep -a ^Last
Last-Modified: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:55:37 GMT

$ w3m -dump http://daryl.dostech.ca/sa-update/asf/|grep 2.-Aug|tail -1
[   ] 569300.tar.gz.sha1      24-Aug-2007 04:51   84

I.e., other people must be enjoying fresh updates, whereas terminal
loser me is stuck back in July, even though I just installed freshest
SpamAssassin 3.2.3 just last week. What gives?

Re: sa-update stuck in July

[jidanni <ji...@jidanni.org>]

Hmm, it seems there perhaps is little hope of updates for the current
release of spamassassin, as they changed the format:

< require_version @@VERSION@@
---
> require_version 3.003000

And as you mention, one would be crazy to download 3.003000.

So what might you recommend one do if one wants to have their spamassassin
keep abreast of current spam patterns?

(The above diff made with:)
set -ue 556472 569778
for v
do
    mkdir /tmp/$v
    cd /tmp/$v
    wget http://daryl.dostech.ca/sa-update/asf/$v.tar.gz
    tar xf $v.tar.gz
    rm $v.tar.gz
done
diff -r /tmp/{$1,$2}

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Re: sa-update stuck in July

[Theo Van Dinter <fe...@apache.org>]

On Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 06:58:23AM +0800, jidanni@jidanni.org wrote:
> OK, but clearly in http://daryl.dostech.ca/sa-update/asf/ there are
> plenty of fresh August 2007 updates, but constant loser me is stuck with
> 556472.tar.gz 15-Jul-2007

Yes, there are other updates in the channel that are newer, but not for
your version of SA.  An update channel is for all versions of SA, and the
DNS record specifies for a given version of SA what update to use, if any.

> So what version of spamassassin do I have to install in order to enjoy
> those August updates like so many others must be enjoying?

3.3, currently in development.  Those are updated nightly through an
automated system.  It's unlikely there are "so many others" enjoying
those updates, since there are likely very few people crazy enough to
run 3.3 right now.  (Please note that running 3.3 may functionally ruin
your ability to have children ... bleeding edge code ... blah blah blah.)

$ host -t txt 0.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org
0.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org descriptive text "569300"

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Re: sa-update stuck in July

[ji...@jidanni.org]

TVD> All that means is that when in doubt, once a day is probably a good frequency

OK, but clearly in http://daryl.dostech.ca/sa-update/asf/ there are
plenty of fresh August 2007 updates, but constant loser me is stuck with
556472.tar.gz 15-Jul-2007

So what version of spamassassin do I have to install in order to enjoy
those August updates like so many others must be enjoying?

Re: sa-update stuck in July

[Theo Van Dinter <fe...@apache.org>]

On Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 05:50:02AM +0800, jidanni@jidanni.org wrote:
> Gentlemen, what's the deal. I installed the latest version of
> spamassassin, and http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RuleUpdates says
> run sa-update once a day, and I do, and always I see

You're picking and choosing what you take from the answer on the page.  It
says:

"As often as you like. It typically depends on what time-frame is comfortable
for you, and how quickly channels are going to be publishing updates.
Generally speaking, once a day is a good starting point."

All that means is that when in doubt, once a day is probably a good frequency
to look for updates.  It does not state that you will find updates when you
look for them.

> >> channel: current version is 556472, new version is 556472, skipping channel

Yep.  That's the latest published version for 3.2:

$ host -t txt 2.2.3.updates.spamassassin.org
2.2.3.updates.spamassassin.org descriptive text "556472"

> I.e., other people must be enjoying fresh updates, whereas terminal
> loser me is stuck back in July, even though I just installed freshest
> SpamAssassin 3.2.3 just last week. What gives?

Rule updates are done manually, and there is no specific schedule to them.
They typically happen as people do rule development and find rules that work
well.  This usually depends on the rule developers having time. :)

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