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cocoon.setAttribute in FlowScript broken?
Actually my previous post/problem boils down to this:
session.setAttribute("name",value) has actually no
effect.
I saw some postings on google about this issue...
Is it serious?
bernard
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Re: cocoon.setAttribute in FlowScript broken?
Posted by Bernard Sirius <be...@yahoo.com>.
yeah sure, that's what I do.
cocoon.session.setAttribute("name",value) doesn't work
for me.
switching to springframework
--- oceatoon <t....@systheo.com> wrote:
> Bernard Sirius wrote:
>
> > Actually my previous post/problem boils down to
> this:
> > session.setAttribute("name",value) has actually no
> > effect.
>
> Should be cocoon.session.setAttribute("name",value);
>
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Re: cocoon.setAttribute in FlowScript broken?
Posted by oceatoon <t....@systheo.com>.
Bernard Sirius wrote:
> Actually my previous post/problem boils down to this:
> session.setAttribute("name",value) has actually no
> effect.
Should be cocoon.session.setAttribute("name",value);
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Re: cocoon.setAttribute in FlowScript broken?
Posted by Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org>.
Mark Lowe wrote:
>>next few month Javaflow will be marked as stable.
>
>
> I have no issue with the principle of flowscript. Like so many of the
> "features" thrown in with cocoon without a second thought. This fact
> is that Bernard is up and running in a day using spring, IMHO there
> are lessons to be learned here. I've good a pretty solid background
> developing apps both with and without the various frameworks
> available, but cocoon just has me speechless, there are basic features
> I need to get running and like bernard I'm engaged in a silly trial
> and error cycle that while I'm sure I'll find out what I need this is
> an unacceptable amount of time.
I've been using Cocoon for years and therefore it is difficult for me to
understand what have been your problems *exactly*. Could you give us some
examples what you wanted to do?
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Re: cocoon.setAttribute in FlowScript broken?
Posted by Mark Lowe <me...@gmail.com>.
> next few month Javaflow will be marked as stable.
I have no issue with the principle of flowscript. Like so many of the
"features" thrown in with cocoon without a second thought. This fact
is that Bernard is up and running in a day using spring, IMHO there
are lessons to be learned here. I've good a pretty solid background
developing apps both with and without the various frameworks
available, but cocoon just has me speechless, there are basic features
I need to get running and like bernard I'm engaged in a silly trial
and error cycle that while I'm sure I'll find out what I need this is
an unacceptable amount of time.
Mark
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 09:56:08 +0100, Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org> wrote:
> Mark Lowe wrote:
> > I've used spring for struts and jsf projects (using spring to wire in
> > daos and so on) and never had any problems that couldn't be solved in
> > a reasonable period of time. I've inherited some crack smokers app
>
> FUD!
>
> > who thought it would be good to use cocoon forms and flow script,
> > personally I don't rate it as a solution there's too much to go wrong.
> >
> > Regretably I can ditch flowscript and for that matter cocoon, but if I
> > ever have the choice I'd use spring or perhaps jsf as a view
> > controller for an xsl based project. I think the fact you up and
> > running in a day says it all.
>
> Of course you can write web applications without flowscript. Otherwise
> frameworks like Struts, JSF or the web MVC part of Spring wouldn't work.
>
> BUT, after you have understood how to use a continuation based controller like
> Flowscript and the powerful Cocoon sitemap works, you will never look back :-)
>
> And for all who have problems to write software without code completion, in the
> next few month Javaflow will be marked as stable.
>
> --
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Re: cocoon.setAttribute in FlowScript broken?
Posted by Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org>.
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
> Mark Lowe wrote:
>
>> I've used spring for struts and jsf projects (using spring to wire in
>> daos and so on) and never had any problems that couldn't be solved in
>> a reasonable period of time. I've inherited some crack smokers app
>
>
> FUD!
>
>> who thought it would be good to use cocoon forms and flow script,
>> personally I don't rate it as a solution there's too much to go wrong.
could you elaborate on this? without giving an explanation this isn't very useful!
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Re: cocoon.setAttribute in FlowScript broken?
Posted by Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org>.
Mark Lowe wrote:
> I've used spring for struts and jsf projects (using spring to wire in
> daos and so on) and never had any problems that couldn't be solved in
> a reasonable period of time. I've inherited some crack smokers app
FUD!
> who thought it would be good to use cocoon forms and flow script,
> personally I don't rate it as a solution there's too much to go wrong.
>
> Regretably I can ditch flowscript and for that matter cocoon, but if I
> ever have the choice I'd use spring or perhaps jsf as a view
> controller for an xsl based project. I think the fact you up and
> running in a day says it all.
Of course you can write web applications without flowscript. Otherwise
frameworks like Struts, JSF or the web MVC part of Spring wouldn't work.
BUT, after you have understood how to use a continuation based controller like
Flowscript and the powerful Cocoon sitemap works, you will never look back :-)
And for all who have problems to write software without code completion, in the
next few month Javaflow will be marked as stable.
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Re: cocoon.setAttribute in FlowScript broken?
Posted by Mark Lowe <me...@gmail.com>.
I've used spring for struts and jsf projects (using spring to wire in
daos and so on) and never had any problems that couldn't be solved in
a reasonable period of time. I've inherited some crack smokers app who
thought it would be good to use cocoon forms and flow script,
personally I don't rate it as a solution there's too much to go wrong.
Regretably I can ditch flowscript and for that matter cocoon, but if I
ever have the choice I'd use spring or perhaps jsf as a view
controller for an xsl based project. I think the fact you up and
running in a day says it all.
Many thanks for you response.
Mark
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:44:49 -0800 (PST), Bernard Sirius
<be...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> please note that for my current project I'm NOT using
> cocoon anymore.
>
> I realized that all I really liked in cocoon was the
> ability to write flow routines outside of the view
> (that's all there is to MVC essentially, isn't it?).
> At least in my current project, I'm not using XML
> transformations, so I have no need for complex
> sitemaps either (like I said: using LPS, hence flash,
> at the client; kinda "rich-client").
>
> With my 1-day experience of spring, here's how you do
> that:
> - you create an xml descriptor where you declare the
> classes you use for the control part
> - you map url patterns to controllers
> - you declare the technology you're using for the
> rendering of your views
> - ...write your controllers and your views, put them
> in the appropriate folders, etc
>
> The real added bonus for me is that I can finally
> enjoy code completion and compilation for the control
> part, which saves me a lot of stupid, time-consuming
> trial-and-error operations.
>
> I think (though it's not a major concern) that
> standard java is also arguably faster and less
> memory-consuming than javascript.
>
> I'm certainly gonna miss the continuation mechanism
> for its elegance (writing page flows like a
> BASIC-program IS fun).
>
> bernard
>
> --- Mark Lowe <me...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Bernard..
> >
> > Could you post your experience of spring in
> > comparision to cocoon?
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:54:24 -0800 (PST), Bernard
> > Sirius
> > <be...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > yes, think I've got it. Anyway, I'm using spring
> > now,
> > > which is fine for me: I have the added benefit of
> > > compiling my controller, at the expense of the
> > > continuations mechanism, which I don't really
> > need.
> > >
> > > For the frontend, I'm using Laszlo Presentation
> > Server
> > > (LPS). They proxy the request, and that's the
> > source
> > > of the error. Still, with spring I could see that
> > my
> > > servlet actually sets the session attributes, but
> > > they're lost when the response is forwarded
> > through
> > > the proxy, unless you tell LPS not to.
> > >
> > > Then you have to explicitely set the cookie (using
> > the
> > > "Set-Cookie" Header parameter)... enzovoorts...
> > >
> > > thanks anyway!
> > >
> > > I didn't figure out what precisely went wrong with
> > > cocoon, but now I don't care much anymore.
> > >
> > > bernard
> > >
> > > --- JD Daniels <jd...@kismetsoftware.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > hmm - I have been using this since 2.1.4
> > > >
> > > > are you using <transform type="encodeURL"/> at
> > the
> > > > end of your pipeline?
> > > > If i understand correctly, nothing will be saved
> > if
> > > > the client has
> > > > cookies off if you don't.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bernard Sirius wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Actually my previous post/problem boils down to
> > > > this:
> > > > >session.setAttribute("name",value) has actually
> > no
> > > > >effect.
> > > > >
> > > > >I saw some postings on google about this
> > issue...
> > > > >
> > > > >Is it serious?
> > > > >
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Re: cocoon.setAttribute in FlowScript broken?
Posted by Laurent Perez <ha...@gmail.com>.
I'd also be interested in learning how you did use a spring controler
(web layer ?) within cocoon, because I'm trying to replace a few flow
parts from my app with pure spring code.
thanks
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Re: cocoon.setAttribute in FlowScript broken?
Posted by Bernard Sirius <be...@yahoo.com>.
please note that for my current project I'm NOT using
cocoon anymore.
I realized that all I really liked in cocoon was the
ability to write flow routines outside of the view
(that's all there is to MVC essentially, isn't it?).
At least in my current project, I'm not using XML
transformations, so I have no need for complex
sitemaps either (like I said: using LPS, hence flash,
at the client; kinda "rich-client").
With my 1-day experience of spring, here's how you do
that:
- you create an xml descriptor where you declare the
classes you use for the control part
- you map url patterns to controllers
- you declare the technology you're using for the
rendering of your views
- ...write your controllers and your views, put them
in the appropriate folders, etc
The real added bonus for me is that I can finally
enjoy code completion and compilation for the control
part, which saves me a lot of stupid, time-consuming
trial-and-error operations.
I think (though it's not a major concern) that
standard java is also arguably faster and less
memory-consuming than javascript.
I'm certainly gonna miss the continuation mechanism
for its elegance (writing page flows like a
BASIC-program IS fun).
bernard
--- Mark Lowe <me...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Bernard..
>
> Could you post your experience of spring in
> comparision to cocoon?
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:54:24 -0800 (PST), Bernard
> Sirius
> <be...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > yes, think I've got it. Anyway, I'm using spring
> now,
> > which is fine for me: I have the added benefit of
> > compiling my controller, at the expense of the
> > continuations mechanism, which I don't really
> need.
> >
> > For the frontend, I'm using Laszlo Presentation
> Server
> > (LPS). They proxy the request, and that's the
> source
> > of the error. Still, with spring I could see that
> my
> > servlet actually sets the session attributes, but
> > they're lost when the response is forwarded
> through
> > the proxy, unless you tell LPS not to.
> >
> > Then you have to explicitely set the cookie (using
> the
> > "Set-Cookie" Header parameter)... enzovoorts...
> >
> > thanks anyway!
> >
> > I didn't figure out what precisely went wrong with
> > cocoon, but now I don't care much anymore.
> >
> > bernard
> >
> > --- JD Daniels <jd...@kismetsoftware.com> wrote:
> >
> > > hmm - I have been using this since 2.1.4
> > >
> > > are you using <transform type="encodeURL"/> at
> the
> > > end of your pipeline?
> > > If i understand correctly, nothing will be saved
> if
> > > the client has
> > > cookies off if you don't.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bernard Sirius wrote:
> > >
> > > >Actually my previous post/problem boils down to
> > > this:
> > > >session.setAttribute("name",value) has actually
> no
> > > >effect.
> > > >
> > > >I saw some postings on google about this
> issue...
> > > >
> > > >Is it serious?
> > > >
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Re: cocoon.setAttribute in FlowScript broken?
Posted by Mark Lowe <me...@gmail.com>.
Hi Bernard..
Could you post your experience of spring in comparision to cocoon?
Mark
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:54:24 -0800 (PST), Bernard Sirius
<be...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> yes, think I've got it. Anyway, I'm using spring now,
> which is fine for me: I have the added benefit of
> compiling my controller, at the expense of the
> continuations mechanism, which I don't really need.
>
> For the frontend, I'm using Laszlo Presentation Server
> (LPS). They proxy the request, and that's the source
> of the error. Still, with spring I could see that my
> servlet actually sets the session attributes, but
> they're lost when the response is forwarded through
> the proxy, unless you tell LPS not to.
>
> Then you have to explicitely set the cookie (using the
> "Set-Cookie" Header parameter)... enzovoorts...
>
> thanks anyway!
>
> I didn't figure out what precisely went wrong with
> cocoon, but now I don't care much anymore.
>
> bernard
>
> --- JD Daniels <jd...@kismetsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> > hmm - I have been using this since 2.1.4
> >
> > are you using <transform type="encodeURL"/> at the
> > end of your pipeline?
> > If i understand correctly, nothing will be saved if
> > the client has
> > cookies off if you don't.
> >
> >
> > Bernard Sirius wrote:
> >
> > >Actually my previous post/problem boils down to
> > this:
> > >session.setAttribute("name",value) has actually no
> > >effect.
> > >
> > >I saw some postings on google about this issue...
> > >
> > >Is it serious?
> > >
> > >bernard
> > >
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Re: cocoon.setAttribute in FlowScript broken?
Posted by Bernard Sirius <be...@yahoo.com>.
yes, think I've got it. Anyway, I'm using spring now,
which is fine for me: I have the added benefit of
compiling my controller, at the expense of the
continuations mechanism, which I don't really need.
For the frontend, I'm using Laszlo Presentation Server
(LPS). They proxy the request, and that's the source
of the error. Still, with spring I could see that my
servlet actually sets the session attributes, but
they're lost when the response is forwarded through
the proxy, unless you tell LPS not to.
Then you have to explicitely set the cookie (using the
"Set-Cookie" Header parameter)... enzovoorts...
thanks anyway!
I didn't figure out what precisely went wrong with
cocoon, but now I don't care much anymore.
bernard
--- JD Daniels <jd...@kismetsoftware.com> wrote:
> hmm - I have been using this since 2.1.4
>
> are you using <transform type="encodeURL"/> at the
> end of your pipeline?
> If i understand correctly, nothing will be saved if
> the client has
> cookies off if you don't.
>
>
> Bernard Sirius wrote:
>
> >Actually my previous post/problem boils down to
> this:
> >session.setAttribute("name",value) has actually no
> >effect.
> >
> >I saw some postings on google about this issue...
> >
> >Is it serious?
> >
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> >
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Re: cocoon.setAttribute in FlowScript broken?
Posted by JD Daniels <jd...@kismetsoftware.com>.
hmm - I have been using this since 2.1.4
are you using <transform type="encodeURL"/> at the end of your pipeline?
If i understand correctly, nothing will be saved if the client has
cookies off if you don't.
Bernard Sirius wrote:
>Actually my previous post/problem boils down to this:
>session.setAttribute("name",value) has actually no
>effect.
>
>I saw some postings on google about this issue...
>
>Is it serious?
>
>bernard
>
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