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How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Hi All
I am using firedocs with lenya 2.0. Every time I build lenya it download the
firedocs xpi plugin. Somtimes I have to wait long just to complete the build
process which hangs due to unavailability of firedocs.xpi. Is there any way
that I can skip the download while building lenya.
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Michael Wechner schrieb:
> rudolf.korhummel@uniklinik-freiburg.de schrieb:
>> Hi Sac,
>>
>> sac sha <sa...@gmail.com> schrieb am 10.11.2009 03:41:26:
>>
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have succeed in doing so. I have just commented out the line from
>>> build.xml and it worked. But I think this is not the proper way. If
>>> anybody has any idea please let me know.
>>>
>>>
>> One possible solution might be to put the firedocs.xpi into the firedocs
>> module instead of downloading it.
>
> isn't that a licensing problem?
>> Maybe the resources folder would be a
>> place for it. What do you think about it ? Does anyone else have any
>> further comments ?
>>
>
> generally speaking I think Lenya should introduce a "maven" like
> dependency management.
Lenya 2.2 uses Maven. I'm using Cocoon 2.2 and Maven for a project at
the moment; it has some advantages but IMO it can become pretty tricky,
especially when 3rd-party version incompatibilities occur.
Best regards,
Andreas
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
rudolf.korhummel@uniklinik-freiburg.de schrieb:
> Hi Sac,
>
> sac sha <sa...@gmail.com> schrieb am 10.11.2009 03:41:26:
>
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I have succeed in doing so. I have just commented out the line from
>> build.xml and it worked. But I think this is not the proper way. If
>> anybody has any idea please let me know.
>>
>>
> One possible solution might be to put the firedocs.xpi into the firedocs
> module instead of downloading it.
isn't that a licensing problem?
> Maybe the resources folder would be a
> place for it. What do you think about it ? Does anyone else have any
> further comments ?
>
generally speaking I think Lenya should introduce a "maven" like
dependency management.
Cheers
Michael
> Regards
>
> Rudolf
>
>
>> Regards
>> Sac
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:33 AM, sac sha <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi All
>>
>> I am using firedocs with lenya 2.0. Every time I build lenya it
>> download the firedocs xpi plugin. Somtimes I have to wait long just
>> to complete the build process which hangs due to unavailability of
>> firedocs.xpi. Is there any way that I can skip the download while
>> building lenya.
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>> Sachin Sharma
>>
>
>
>>
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>> Sachin Sharma
>>
>
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by sac sha <sa...@gmail.com>.
Thanks a lot.
Regards
Sac
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org>wrote:
> Rudolf Korhummel wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I would prefer to include it within the module.
>>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Vik
>>>
>>
>> Since there were no objections, I've included firedocs-1.2.4.xpi within
>> the module
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Rudolf
>>
> Thanks!
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org>.
Rudolf Korhummel wrote:
>
>
>>> I would prefer to include it within the module.
>> +1
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Vik
>
> Since there were no objections, I've included firedocs-1.2.4.xpi
> within the module
>
> Regards
>
> Rudolf
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by Rudolf Korhummel <ru...@korhummel.de>.
>> I would prefer to include it within the module.
> +1
>
> Regards
>
> Vik
Since there were no objections, I've included firedocs-1.2.4.xpi
within the module
Regards
Rudolf
>
> On 17/11/09 19:08, Rudolf Korhummel wrote:
>>
>> Am 16.11.2009 um 22:54 schrieb Michael Wechner:
>>
>>> Thomas Comiotto wrote:
>>>>> I guess that's a licensing problem, right?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> no.
>>>
>>> ok, I now see that Firedocs is distributed under the Apache
>>> License 2.0
>>>
>>> http://www.firedocs.org/about/licenses
>>>
>>> (IIRC it used to be based on GPL or was it always the Apache
>>> license 2.0?)
>>>
>>> So, yes, I think it would make sense to include it within module,
>>> since I guess that doesn't make much difference, because it
>>> currently
>>> is downloaded everytime anyway and I think it's actually good to
>>> have it based on a specific version.
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>>
>> I would prefer to include it within the module. Do you think the
>> resources folder would be a good place for it ?
>> An alternative way would be to use svn:externals to access it from
>> firedocs.org at svn checkout.
>>
>> WDYT ?
>>
>> Rudolf
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> Thomas
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by Vik Tara <vi...@propco.co.uk>.
> I would prefer to include it within the module.
+1
Regards
Vik
On 17/11/09 19:08, Rudolf Korhummel wrote:
>
> Am 16.11.2009 um 22:54 schrieb Michael Wechner:
>
>> Thomas Comiotto wrote:
>>>> I guess that's a licensing problem, right?
>>>>
>>>
>>> no.
>>
>> ok, I now see that Firedocs is distributed under the Apache License 2.0
>>
>> http://www.firedocs.org/about/licenses
>>
>> (IIRC it used to be based on GPL or was it always the Apache license
>> 2.0?)
>>
>> So, yes, I think it would make sense to include it within module,
>> since I guess that doesn't make much difference, because it currently
>> is downloaded everytime anyway and I think it's actually good to have
>> it based on a specific version.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
> I would prefer to include it within the module. Do you think the
> resources folder would be a good place for it ?
> An alternative way would be to use svn:externals to access it from
> firedocs.org at svn checkout.
>
> WDYT ?
>
> Rudolf
>> Thanks
>>
>> Michael
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by Rudolf Korhummel <ru...@korhummel.de>.
Am 16.11.2009 um 22:54 schrieb Michael Wechner:
> Thomas Comiotto wrote:
>>> I guess that's a licensing problem, right?
>>>
>>
>> no.
>
> ok, I now see that Firedocs is distributed under the Apache License
> 2.0
>
> http://www.firedocs.org/about/licenses
>
> (IIRC it used to be based on GPL or was it always the Apache license
> 2.0?)
>
> So, yes, I think it would make sense to include it within module,
> since I guess that doesn't make much difference, because it currently
> is downloaded everytime anyway and I think it's actually good to
> have it based on a specific version.
>
> WDYT?
>
I would prefer to include it within the module. Do you think the
resources folder would be a good place for it ?
An alternative way would be to use svn:externals to access it from
firedocs.org at svn checkout.
WDYT ?
Rudolf
> Thanks
>
> Michael
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Thomas Comiotto wrote:
>> I guess that's a licensing problem, right?
>>
>
> no.
ok, I now see that Firedocs is distributed under the Apache License 2.0
http://www.firedocs.org/about/licenses
(IIRC it used to be based on GPL or was it always the Apache license 2.0?)
So, yes, I think it would make sense to include it within module, since
I guess that doesn't make much difference, because it currently
is downloaded everytime anyway and I think it's actually good to have it
based on a specific version.
WDYT?
Thanks
Michael
>
> Thomas
>
>
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by Thomas Comiotto <th...@id.uzh.ch>.
> I guess that's a licensing problem, right?
>
no.
Thomas
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Thomas Comiotto wrote:
>
> Am 16.11.2009 um 20:57 schrieb Vik Tara:
>
>> Hi Rudolf,
>>> One possible solution might be to put the firedocs.xpi into the
>>> firedocs
>>> module instead of downloading it.
>>
>> Isn't this a simple solution? Why do we need to download something
>> from somewhere if it's already in the module?
>>
>
> You save minor maintenance tasks, e.g. checking for fixes and
> deploying the xpi.
> @Michi: the current version of the build script hangs offline too.
ant maven also works offline ;-)
>
> Given that offline time of most people/machines is limited these days
> I would go with the change I suggested.
well, I am offline quite often though, although I recently flew Delta
and they had wireless at 30K feet which was quite amazing though,
so agreed it becomes less frequent, but I know companies which have
"offline builds" as a requirement (in the case of emergencies), because
if the internet is not accessible, they still want to be able to rebuild
and use it
> But if you prefer to ship the module with a copy of firedocs.xpi
> that's fine with me too.
I guess that's a licensing problem, right?
Cheers
Michael
>
> Best
> Thomas
>
>
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by Thomas Comiotto <th...@id.uzh.ch>.
Am 16.11.2009 um 20:57 schrieb Vik Tara:
> Hi Rudolf,
>> One possible solution might be to put the firedocs.xpi into the
>> firedocs
>> module instead of downloading it.
>
> Isn't this a simple solution? Why do we need to download something
> from somewhere if it's already in the module?
>
You save minor maintenance tasks, e.g. checking for fixes and
deploying the xpi.
@Michi: the current version of the build script hangs offline too.
Given that offline time of most people/machines is limited these days
I would go with the change I suggested.
But if you prefer to ship the module with a copy of firedocs.xpi
that's fine with me too.
Best
Thomas
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by Vik Tara <vi...@propco.co.uk>.
Hi Rudolf,
> One possible solution might be to put the firedocs.xpi into the firedocs
> module instead of downloading it.
Isn't this a simple solution? Why do we need to download something from
somewhere if it's already in the module?
Regards
Vik
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Thomas Comiotto wrote:
> Hi Rudolf
>
>>
>>
>> Trying this at home I realised that the build hangs if there is no
>> response from the download site.
>> Unfortunately a timeout can't be assigned to the get task, so we
>> might have to look for an other solution.
>>
>
> Please change the script nevertheless.
> I figured firedocs.org uses quite some bandwith due to lenya builds.
I don't think the script should be changed if it makes the build hang.
But maybe I misunderstand something or rather Rudolf can explain
in more detail what happened exactly. As mentioned before using
something like Ant-Maven does work without problem (offline and online)
and I don't understand why the Lenya dev community is hesitant to
introduce something like this, because it could save a lot of trouble
and bandwidth ;-)
Cheers
Michael
>
> Thanks
> Thomas
>
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by Thomas Comiotto <th...@id.uzh.ch>.
Hi Rudolf
>
>
> Trying this at home I realised that the build hangs if there is no
> response from the download site.
> Unfortunately a timeout can't be assigned to the get task, so we
> might have to look for an other solution.
>
Please change the script nevertheless.
I figured firedocs.org uses quite some bandwith due to lenya builds.
Thanks
Thomas
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by Rudolf Korhummel <ru...@korhummel.de>.
Am 10.11.2009 um 10:16 schrieb rudolf.korhummel@uniklinik-freiburg.de:
>
> Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com> schrieb am 10.11.2009
> 10:04:00:
>
>> Thomas Comiotto schrieb:
>>> Hi Rudolf
>>>
>>>>
>>>> One possible solution might be to put the firedocs.xpi into the
> firedocs
>>>> module instead of downloading it. Maybe the resources folder
>>>> would be
> a
>>>> place for it. What do you think about it ? Does anyone else have
>>>> any
>>>> further comments ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Add usetimestamp="true" ignoreerrors="true" to the <get> task of
>>> build.xml
>>
>> sounds like a nice patch in order to commit. WDYT?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Michael
>
> +1 (I think it's a better suggestion. Thanks Thomas)
>
> Rudolf
Trying this at home I realised that the build hangs if there is no
response from the download site.
Unfortunately a timeout can't be assigned to the get task, so we might
have to look for an other solution.
Rudolf
>
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by ru...@uniklinik-freiburg.de.
Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com> schrieb am 10.11.2009 10:04:00:
> Thomas Comiotto schrieb:
> > Hi Rudolf
> >
> >>
> >> One possible solution might be to put the firedocs.xpi into the
firedocs
> >> module instead of downloading it. Maybe the resources folder would be
a
> >> place for it. What do you think about it ? Does anyone else have any
> >> further comments ?
> >>
> >
> > Add usetimestamp="true" ignoreerrors="true" to the <get> task of
> > build.xml
>
> sounds like a nice patch in order to commit. WDYT?
>
> Thanks
>
> Michael
+1 (I think it's a better suggestion. Thanks Thomas)
Rudolf
> >
> > Best
> > Thomas
> >
> >
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Thomas Comiotto schrieb:
> Hi Rudolf
>
>>
>> One possible solution might be to put the firedocs.xpi into the firedocs
>> module instead of downloading it. Maybe the resources folder would be a
>> place for it. What do you think about it ? Does anyone else have any
>> further comments ?
>>
>
> Add usetimestamp="true" ignoreerrors="true" to the <get> task of
> build.xml
sounds like a nice patch in order to commit. WDYT?
Thanks
Michael
>
> Best
> Thomas
>
>
>
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by Thomas Comiotto <th...@id.uzh.ch>.
Hi Rudolf
>
> One possible solution might be to put the firedocs.xpi into the
> firedocs
> module instead of downloading it. Maybe the resources folder would
> be a
> place for it. What do you think about it ? Does anyone else have any
> further comments ?
>
Add usetimestamp="true" ignoreerrors="true" to the <get> task of
build.xml
Best
Thomas
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by ru...@uniklinik-freiburg.de.
Hi Sac,
sac sha <sa...@gmail.com> schrieb am 10.11.2009 03:41:26:
>
> Hi
>
> I have succeed in doing so. I have just commented out the line from
> build.xml and it worked. But I think this is not the proper way. If
> anybody has any idea please let me know.
>
One possible solution might be to put the firedocs.xpi into the firedocs
module instead of downloading it. Maybe the resources folder would be a
place for it. What do you think about it ? Does anyone else have any
further comments ?
Regards
Rudolf
>
> Regards
> Sac
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:33 AM, sac sha <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I am using firedocs with lenya 2.0. Every time I build lenya it
> download the firedocs xpi plugin. Somtimes I have to wait long just
> to complete the build process which hangs due to unavailability of
> firedocs.xpi. Is there any way that I can skip the download while
> building lenya.
>
> --
> Regards
> Sachin Sharma
>
>
>
> --
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> Sachin Sharma
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Re: How to avoid firedocs.xpi download during lenya build.
Posted by sac sha <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi
I have succeed in doing so. I have just commented out the line from
build.xml and it worked. But I think this is not the proper way. If anybody
has any idea please let me know.
Regards
Sac
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:33 AM, sac sha <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I am using firedocs with lenya 2.0. Every time I build lenya it download
> the firedocs xpi plugin. Somtimes I have to wait long just to complete the
> build process which hangs due to unavailability of firedocs.xpi. Is there
> any way that I can skip the download while building lenya.
>
> --
> Regards
> Sachin Sharma
>
>
--
Regards
Sachin Sharma