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[jira] Closed: (OFBIZ-1738) Add support for running one instance of
OfBiz under Tomcat
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1738?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
Jacques Le Roux closed OFBIZ-1738.
----------------------------------
Resolution: Fixed
Fix Version/s: SVN trunk
Thanks Ludovic,
Your "patch" is in trunk rev. 649921
I did not test anything, I just added ASL headers to bat and sh scripts in the 55 branch and made a page in Wiki at http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/gR from your how to.
I did so for 2 main reasons :
1. I have no time to test thorougly, and I suppose that it works from your comments this issue
2. It's harmless for the project, only people interested may encounter issues if any
> Add support for running one instance of OfBiz under Tomcat
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: OFBIZ-1738
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1738
> Project: OFBiz
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Components: framework
> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> Environment: Mac OS X 10.5.2, JDK 1.5.0_13
> Reporter: Ludovic Maître
> Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
> Priority: Minor
> Fix For: SVN trunk
>
> Attachments: ofbiz-tomcat-setup.zip, tomcat.zip
>
> Original Estimate: 8h
> Remaining Estimate: 8h
>
> This issue provide templates and patchs to run one instance of OfBiz under Tomcat.
> The templates are used to:
> - setup the classpath of Tomcat, (catalina.properties)
> - declare the ofbiz webapps in the server configuration
> The files generated from the templates, with the command 'java -jar ofbiz.jar -setup tomcat', should be copied in the $CATALINA_HOME/conf folder of Tomcat.
> IIRC there is also some setup to perform in the first loaded webapp, and a few other modifications in the code, i will digg into it this evening (French riviera time) and create a patch which will be added to this issue. (the full code is also published on my subversion server: http://forge.ubik-products.com/repositories/apache-ofbiz/trunk/ , but good luck to find the relveant parts :-))
> Best regards,
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Re: Terracotta (was OFBiz under Tomcat)
Posted by Chris Howe <cj...@yahoo.com>.
It was specifically the clustering part that I was interested in and
was likely going to make an attempt at understanding the concept a bit
more this weekend. Terracotta (http://www.terracotta.org/) appears to
have a relatively straight forward means of deploying tomcat - and by
extension the applications tomcat is running, but on first look seems
to have a challenging way of going about deploying things that have
tomcat embedded.
I was curious about using the approach of:
1) building with tomcat embedded
2) deploying with OFBiz under Tomcat
3) scaling with Terracotta
Any obvious pitfalls to be looking out for?
--- David E Jones <jo...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
>
> That is part of the reason, but technically we could do that with
> OFBiz running inside of Tomcat instead of Tomcat embedded in OFBiz.
> Actually, in the first few years of OFBiz it wasn't too hard to
> checkout, build, deploy, and run OFBiz when it was running inside
> another "app server". The default was Jetty for a long time because
> it
> wasn't necessary to copy all of the classpath resources to
> directories
> under the app server directory as is the case with Tomcat.
>
> What it really comes down to is development and deployment
> convenience. There are hundreds of classpath entries and a couple of
>
> dozen webapps in OFBiz, plus other resources that J2EE app servers
> don't know anything about like Entity and Service Engine resources,
> test definitions, and so on. On top of this we don't want all of this
>
> to be in one big blob, but the different segmented parts need to be
> able to setup all of the resources they provide.
>
> That is the reason for the Containers and Components in OFBiz. Some
> of
> this configuration and functionality can still be used when OFBiz is
>
> deployed in another app server, but much of it can still be used
> either through the template generation stuff or through the automatic
>
> run-time container loader to initialize OFBiz stuff (as opposed to
> the
> case where OFBiz starts on its own and embeds everything else and
> initializes them through a different containers file, the default
> ofbiz-containers.xml).
>
> In short it is certainly possible to deploy OFBiz in another app
> server. Unfortunately standard deployment tools, like the EAR file,
> are not adequate for something like OFBiz because of limitations in
> the spec (like not being able to add things to the classloader shared
>
> by the webapps in the EAR).
>
> The cost of deploying in another app server is usually such that the
>
> benefit gained is less, or sometimes little more than a rounding
> error
> compared to the cost. On the other hand, if you have a $1,000,000
> Weblogic cluster or the like then the $40k to build the deployment
> scripts and templates and the $15k per year to maintain and use them
>
> is reasonable (those are rough estimates based on seeing such a thing
>
> done, and will vary greatly from one organization to another, and
> from
> one deployment plan to another, and from one app server to another).
>
> Generally OFBiz runs just as well or better using the embedded tools,
>
> and supports all of the clustering and other functionality needed to
>
> deploy in large-scale environments. It also has the benefit of being
> a
> configuration tested by WAY more people than a custom deployment
> process in another app server.
>
> In general the promise that J2EE apps can be easily written in
> abstract form and deployed on any compliant app server is one of the
>
> greatest missed opportunities (or mis-representations...) of the
> marketing and design behind the J2EE specs, and that's true whether
> you're talking about OFBiz or not.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Apr 21, 2008, at 10:49 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
> > The biggest reason was to have an OOTB application.
> > just load and run.
> >
> >
> > Chris Howe sent the following on 4/20/2008 10:17 PM:
> >> There was a particular reasoning for running tomcat embedded.
> What
> >> was
> >> it? If those issues are resolved, would it be better to tomcat
> >> (non)embedded? This would help quite a few integration issues.
> >>
> >> I just did a quick run and it works. However, there may be a
> >> classloader issue. I had to copy the mysql jar to tomcat-x/lib
> >> because
> >> it wasn't getting picked up in ofbiz/framework/entity/lib/jdbc .
> >>
> >>
> >> --- "Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> [
> >>>
> >>
>
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1738?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
> >>> ]
> >>>
> >>> Jacques Le Roux closed OFBIZ-1738.
> >>> ----------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Resolution: Fixed
> >>> Fix Version/s: SVN trunk
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Ludovic,
> >>>
> >>> Your "patch" is in trunk rev. 649921
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I did not test anything, I just added ASL headers to bat and sh
> >>> scripts in the 55 branch and made a page in Wiki at
> >>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/gR from your how to.
> >>> I did so for 2 main reasons :
> >>> 1. I have no time to test thorougly, and I suppose that it works
>
> >>> from
> >>> your comments this issue
> >>> 2. It's harmless for the project, only people interested may
> >>> encounter issues if any
> >>>
> >>>> Add support for running one instance of OfBiz under Tomcat
> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Key: OFBIZ-1738
> >>>> URL:
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1738
> >>>> Project: OFBiz
> >>>> Issue Type: New Feature
> >>>> Components: framework
> >>>> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> >>>> Environment: Mac OS X 10.5.2, JDK 1.5.0_13
> >>>> Reporter: Ludovic Maître
> >>>> Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
> >>>> Priority: Minor
> >>>> Fix For: SVN trunk
> >>>>
> >>>> Attachments: ofbiz-tomcat-setup.zip, tomcat.zip
> >>>>
> >>>> Original Estimate: 8h
> >>>> Remaining Estimate: 8h
> >>>>
> >>>> This issue provide templates and patchs to run one instance of
> >>> OfBiz under Tomcat.
> >>>> The templates are used to:
> >>>> - setup the classpath of Tomcat, (catalina.properties)
> >>>> - declare the ofbiz webapps in the server configuration
> >>>> The files generated from the templates, with the command 'java
> -jar
> >>> ofbiz.jar -setup tomcat', should be copied in the $CATALINA_HOME/
>
> >>> conf
> >>> folder of Tomcat.
> >>>> IIRC there is also some setup to perform in the first loaded
> >>> webapp, and a few other modifications in the code, i will digg
> into
> >>> it this evening (French riviera time) and create a patch which
> will
> >>> be added to this issue. (the full code is also published on my
> >>> subversion server:
> >>> http://forge.ubik-products.com/repositories/apache-ofbiz/trunk/ ,
>
> >>> but
> >>> good luck to find the relveant parts :-))
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>> --
> >>> This message is automatically generated by JIRA.
> >>> -
> >>> You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Re: [jira] Closed: (OFBIZ-1738) Add support for running one instance of OfBiz under Tomcat
Posted by David E Jones <jo...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
That is part of the reason, but technically we could do that with
OFBiz running inside of Tomcat instead of Tomcat embedded in OFBiz.
Actually, in the first few years of OFBiz it wasn't too hard to
checkout, build, deploy, and run OFBiz when it was running inside
another "app server". The default was Jetty for a long time because it
wasn't necessary to copy all of the classpath resources to directories
under the app server directory as is the case with Tomcat.
What it really comes down to is development and deployment
convenience. There are hundreds of classpath entries and a couple of
dozen webapps in OFBiz, plus other resources that J2EE app servers
don't know anything about like Entity and Service Engine resources,
test definitions, and so on. On top of this we don't want all of this
to be in one big blob, but the different segmented parts need to be
able to setup all of the resources they provide.
That is the reason for the Containers and Components in OFBiz. Some of
this configuration and functionality can still be used when OFBiz is
deployed in another app server, but much of it can still be used
either through the template generation stuff or through the automatic
run-time container loader to initialize OFBiz stuff (as opposed to the
case where OFBiz starts on its own and embeds everything else and
initializes them through a different containers file, the default
ofbiz-containers.xml).
In short it is certainly possible to deploy OFBiz in another app
server. Unfortunately standard deployment tools, like the EAR file,
are not adequate for something like OFBiz because of limitations in
the spec (like not being able to add things to the classloader shared
by the webapps in the EAR).
The cost of deploying in another app server is usually such that the
benefit gained is less, or sometimes little more than a rounding error
compared to the cost. On the other hand, if you have a $1,000,000
Weblogic cluster or the like then the $40k to build the deployment
scripts and templates and the $15k per year to maintain and use them
is reasonable (those are rough estimates based on seeing such a thing
done, and will vary greatly from one organization to another, and from
one deployment plan to another, and from one app server to another).
Generally OFBiz runs just as well or better using the embedded tools,
and supports all of the clustering and other functionality needed to
deploy in large-scale environments. It also has the benefit of being a
configuration tested by WAY more people than a custom deployment
process in another app server.
In general the promise that J2EE apps can be easily written in
abstract form and deployed on any compliant app server is one of the
greatest missed opportunities (or mis-representations...) of the
marketing and design behind the J2EE specs, and that's true whether
you're talking about OFBiz or not.
-David
On Apr 21, 2008, at 10:49 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
> The biggest reason was to have an OOTB application.
> just load and run.
>
>
> Chris Howe sent the following on 4/20/2008 10:17 PM:
>> There was a particular reasoning for running tomcat embedded. What
>> was
>> it? If those issues are resolved, would it be better to tomcat
>> (non)embedded? This would help quite a few integration issues.
>>
>> I just did a quick run and it works. However, there may be a
>> classloader issue. I had to copy the mysql jar to tomcat-x/lib
>> because
>> it wasn't getting picked up in ofbiz/framework/entity/lib/jdbc .
>>
>>
>> --- "Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> [
>>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1738?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
>>> ]
>>>
>>> Jacques Le Roux closed OFBIZ-1738.
>>> ----------------------------------
>>>
>>> Resolution: Fixed
>>> Fix Version/s: SVN trunk
>>>
>>> Thanks Ludovic,
>>>
>>> Your "patch" is in trunk rev. 649921
>>>
>>>
>>> I did not test anything, I just added ASL headers to bat and sh
>>> scripts in the 55 branch and made a page in Wiki at
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/gR from your how to.
>>> I did so for 2 main reasons :
>>> 1. I have no time to test thorougly, and I suppose that it works
>>> from
>>> your comments this issue
>>> 2. It's harmless for the project, only people interested may
>>> encounter issues if any
>>>
>>>> Add support for running one instance of OfBiz under Tomcat
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Key: OFBIZ-1738
>>>> URL:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1738
>>>> Project: OFBiz
>>>> Issue Type: New Feature
>>>> Components: framework
>>>> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>>>> Environment: Mac OS X 10.5.2, JDK 1.5.0_13
>>>> Reporter: Ludovic Maître
>>>> Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>>>> Priority: Minor
>>>> Fix For: SVN trunk
>>>>
>>>> Attachments: ofbiz-tomcat-setup.zip, tomcat.zip
>>>>
>>>> Original Estimate: 8h
>>>> Remaining Estimate: 8h
>>>>
>>>> This issue provide templates and patchs to run one instance of
>>> OfBiz under Tomcat.
>>>> The templates are used to:
>>>> - setup the classpath of Tomcat, (catalina.properties)
>>>> - declare the ofbiz webapps in the server configuration
>>>> The files generated from the templates, with the command 'java -jar
>>> ofbiz.jar -setup tomcat', should be copied in the $CATALINA_HOME/
>>> conf
>>> folder of Tomcat.
>>>> IIRC there is also some setup to perform in the first loaded
>>> webapp, and a few other modifications in the code, i will digg into
>>> it this evening (French riviera time) and create a patch which will
>>> be added to this issue. (the full code is also published on my
>>> subversion server:
>>> http://forge.ubik-products.com/repositories/apache-ofbiz/trunk/ ,
>>> but
>>> good luck to find the relveant parts :-))
>>>> Best regards,
>>> --
>>> This message is automatically generated by JIRA.
>>> -
>>> You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: [jira] Closed: (OFBIZ-1738) Add support for running one instance
of OfBiz under Tomcat
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
The biggest reason was to have an OOTB application.
just load and run.
Chris Howe sent the following on 4/20/2008 10:17 PM:
> There was a particular reasoning for running tomcat embedded. What was
> it? If those issues are resolved, would it be better to tomcat
> (non)embedded? This would help quite a few integration issues.
>
> I just did a quick run and it works. However, there may be a
> classloader issue. I had to copy the mysql jar to tomcat-x/lib because
> it wasn't getting picked up in ofbiz/framework/entity/lib/jdbc .
>
>
> --- "Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> [
>>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1738?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
>> ]
>>
>> Jacques Le Roux closed OFBIZ-1738.
>> ----------------------------------
>>
>> Resolution: Fixed
>> Fix Version/s: SVN trunk
>>
>> Thanks Ludovic,
>>
>> Your "patch" is in trunk rev. 649921
>>
>>
>> I did not test anything, I just added ASL headers to bat and sh
>> scripts in the 55 branch and made a page in Wiki at
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/gR from your how to.
>> I did so for 2 main reasons :
>> 1. I have no time to test thorougly, and I suppose that it works from
>> your comments this issue
>> 2. It's harmless for the project, only people interested may
>> encounter issues if any
>>
>>> Add support for running one instance of OfBiz under Tomcat
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Key: OFBIZ-1738
>>> URL:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1738
>>> Project: OFBiz
>>> Issue Type: New Feature
>>> Components: framework
>>> Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>>> Environment: Mac OS X 10.5.2, JDK 1.5.0_13
>>> Reporter: Ludovic Maître
>>> Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>>> Priority: Minor
>>> Fix For: SVN trunk
>>>
>>> Attachments: ofbiz-tomcat-setup.zip, tomcat.zip
>>>
>>> Original Estimate: 8h
>>> Remaining Estimate: 8h
>>>
>>> This issue provide templates and patchs to run one instance of
>> OfBiz under Tomcat.
>>> The templates are used to:
>>> - setup the classpath of Tomcat, (catalina.properties)
>>> - declare the ofbiz webapps in the server configuration
>>> The files generated from the templates, with the command 'java -jar
>> ofbiz.jar -setup tomcat', should be copied in the $CATALINA_HOME/conf
>> folder of Tomcat.
>>> IIRC there is also some setup to perform in the first loaded
>> webapp, and a few other modifications in the code, i will digg into
>> it this evening (French riviera time) and create a patch which will
>> be added to this issue. (the full code is also published on my
>> subversion server:
>> http://forge.ubik-products.com/repositories/apache-ofbiz/trunk/ , but
>> good luck to find the relveant parts :-))
>>> Best regards,
>> --
>> This message is automatically generated by JIRA.
>> -
>> You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
Re: [jira] Closed: (OFBIZ-1738) Add support for running one instance of OfBiz under Tomcat
Posted by Chris Howe <cj...@yahoo.com>.
There was a particular reasoning for running tomcat embedded. What was
it? If those issues are resolved, would it be better to tomcat
(non)embedded? This would help quite a few integration issues.
I just did a quick run and it works. However, there may be a
classloader issue. I had to copy the mysql jar to tomcat-x/lib because
it wasn't getting picked up in ofbiz/framework/entity/lib/jdbc .
--- "Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> [
>
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1738?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
> ]
>
> Jacques Le Roux closed OFBIZ-1738.
> ----------------------------------
>
> Resolution: Fixed
> Fix Version/s: SVN trunk
>
> Thanks Ludovic,
>
> Your "patch" is in trunk rev. 649921
>
>
> I did not test anything, I just added ASL headers to bat and sh
> scripts in the 55 branch and made a page in Wiki at
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/gR from your how to.
> I did so for 2 main reasons :
> 1. I have no time to test thorougly, and I suppose that it works from
> your comments this issue
> 2. It's harmless for the project, only people interested may
> encounter issues if any
>
> > Add support for running one instance of OfBiz under Tomcat
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Key: OFBIZ-1738
> > URL:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1738
> > Project: OFBiz
> > Issue Type: New Feature
> > Components: framework
> > Affects Versions: SVN trunk
> > Environment: Mac OS X 10.5.2, JDK 1.5.0_13
> > Reporter: Ludovic Maître
> > Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
> > Priority: Minor
> > Fix For: SVN trunk
> >
> > Attachments: ofbiz-tomcat-setup.zip, tomcat.zip
> >
> > Original Estimate: 8h
> > Remaining Estimate: 8h
> >
> > This issue provide templates and patchs to run one instance of
> OfBiz under Tomcat.
> > The templates are used to:
> > - setup the classpath of Tomcat, (catalina.properties)
> > - declare the ofbiz webapps in the server configuration
> > The files generated from the templates, with the command 'java -jar
> ofbiz.jar -setup tomcat', should be copied in the $CATALINA_HOME/conf
> folder of Tomcat.
> > IIRC there is also some setup to perform in the first loaded
> webapp, and a few other modifications in the code, i will digg into
> it this evening (French riviera time) and create a patch which will
> be added to this issue. (the full code is also published on my
> subversion server:
> http://forge.ubik-products.com/repositories/apache-ofbiz/trunk/ , but
> good luck to find the relveant parts :-))
> > Best regards,
>
> --
> This message is automatically generated by JIRA.
> -
> You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online.
>
>