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Posted to dev@apr.apache.org by rb...@covalent.net on 2000/12/17 04:10:49 UTC
Beta reminder
This message is meant to serve as a reminder to everybody and as a STATUS
message. I will be updating STATUS immediately after sending this
message.
The current plan is to release the first Apache beta on Friday December
22. That also means that APR is basically hitting beta status, at least
it has in the past. The APR developers will need to decide if we want
to divorce APR releases from Apache. This will be decided separately
from new-httpd. In order to do that, we need to actually roll the release
on Wednesday, and we all need to test it. We have been releasing alpha's
on the day they roll, IMHO that is not a valid way to roll a
beta. Currently, I am planning to roll the beta release on Wednesday, and
make it available for testing. That will coincide with a Friday release
date, hopefully.
This requires a few things first. Each of these will go into the STATUS
file.
1) The installed layout needs to be fixed. This means that the header
files need to be installed in the correct location. Expect a message in a
few minutes with my opinion for how this should look.
2) The instructions for rolling a release need to be updated for
2.0. Expect this to happen in the next few days. I will take care of
doing this.
3) binbuild.sh may need to be updated. I haven't looked into this, but I
would be surprised if it works.
4) Source code layout needs to be decided for apr and apr-util. There
has been some discussion about adding a src/ directory to apr or removing
it from apr-util/. Either way, this needs to be decided.
5) Apache.org needs to start running Apache 2.0 if at all possible.
Would other people please look through the release show-stoppers, and
either remove them if they are solved, or decide if they are really
show-stoppers. If they aren't, then lets get rid of them. If they are,
then lets fix them.
I am not convinced that all of those showstoppers need to be solved before
we release the beta. Some of them are issues for configuration, we are
trying to figure out the best way to configure Apache 2.0, but nobody has
ever really tried setting this stuff up. Until somebody does that,
stating that we need a certain configuration option is a bit pre-mature
IMHO.
Ryan
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Ryan Bloom rbb@apache.org
406 29th St.
San Francisco, CA 94131
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Re: Beta reminder
Posted by rb...@covalent.net.
> This basically means that the APR tree is frozen except for crtical
> patches, right?
>
> Bill Tutt has contributed a patch that makes apr_setprocattr_child* work
> on Win32. This patch is necessary (though not critical right now) for
> Subversion, but I guess Apache can live without it if it has up to now.
>
> Should I hold back this patch until after the beta is out?
Personally, I suggest committing it, if you are confident that this works.
Ryan
_______________________________________________________________________________
Ryan Bloom rbb@apache.org
406 29th St.
San Francisco, CA 94131
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Re: Beta reminder
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@xbc.nu>.
rbb@covalent.net wrote:
> The current plan is to release the first Apache beta on Friday December
> 22. That also means that APR is basically hitting beta status, at least
> it has in the past.
This basically means that the APR tree is frozen except for crtical
patches, right?
Bill Tutt has contributed a patch that makes apr_setprocattr_child* work
on Win32. This patch is necessary (though not critical right now) for
Subversion, but I guess Apache can live without it if it has up to now.
Should I hold back this patch until after the beta is out?
--
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Re: Beta reminder
Posted by Tony Finch <do...@dotat.at>.
Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 rbb@covalent.net wrote:
>
>> Do you have a favorite MPM, or is mpmt_pthread the correct one to
>> choose?
>
>I'd ask that of other freebsd folks, actually. =)
I wouldn't use a threaded mpm on FreeBSD prior to the threading fixes
that were incorporated shortly after 4.2-RELEASE.
Tony.
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"Perhaps on your way home you will pass someone in the dark,
and you will never know it, for they will be from outer space."
Re: Beta reminder
Posted by Brian Havard <br...@kheldar.apana.org.au>.
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 11:02:50 -0000, David Reid wrote:
>Well when I CVS updated last night and did a build I couldn't get a running
>server at all! It simply hang and no socket was ever created :(
>
>I didn't/don't have time to look into it but the system was running FreeBSD
>4.1.1.
And I'm currently getting:
mod_access.c: In function `find_allowdeny':
mod_access.c:340: invalid type argument of `->'
Seems to be related to the recent IPv6 changes. Is it just me?
--
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| Brian Havard | "He is not the messiah! |
| brianh@kheldar.apana.org.au | He's a very naughty boy!" - Life of Brian |
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Re: Beta reminder
Posted by David Reid <dr...@jetnet.co.uk>.
Well when I CVS updated last night and did a build I couldn't get a running
server at all! It simply hang and no socket was ever created :(
I didn't/don't have time to look into it but the system was running FreeBSD
4.1.1.
david
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Behlendorf" <br...@collab.net>
To: <rb...@covalent.net>
Cc: <ne...@apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: Beta reminder
> On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 rbb@covalent.net wrote:
> > I don't have an answer for the tomcat stuff. I guess I will send e-mail
> > to the tomcat list and ask them if they have done anything. If not,
I'll
> > try to port the Apache module early this week.
>
> Cool. I bcc'd my previous message to members@apache.org to try and catch
> some of them.
>
> > I will also compile Apache
> > on locus tomorrow and try to run it with our config file. Do you have a
> > favorite MPM, or is mpmt_pthread the correct one to choose?
>
> I'd ask that of other freebsd folks, actually. =)
>
> Brian
>
>
>
Re: Beta reminder
Posted by Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net>.
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 rbb@covalent.net wrote:
> I don't have an answer for the tomcat stuff. I guess I will send e-mail
> to the tomcat list and ask them if they have done anything. If not, I'll
> try to port the Apache module early this week.
Cool. I bcc'd my previous message to members@apache.org to try and catch
some of them.
> I will also compile Apache
> on locus tomorrow and try to run it with our config file. Do you have a
> favorite MPM, or is mpmt_pthread the correct one to choose?
I'd ask that of other freebsd folks, actually. =)
Brian
Re: Beta reminder
Posted by rb...@covalent.net.
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 rbb@covalent.net wrote:
> > 5) Apache.org needs to start running Apache 2.0 if at all possible.
>
> Has someone figured out a way for me to handle the tomcat stuff we run? I
> could punt and make them static pages, but I doubt the jakarta folks would
> be happy with that. Aside from that, I'm happy to run it - has someone
> compiled it on locus and tried it with our httpd.conf?
I don't have an answer for the tomcat stuff. I guess I will send e-mail
to the tomcat list and ask them if they have done anything. If not, I'll
try to port the Apache module early this week. I will also compile Apache
on locus tomorrow and try to run it with our config file. Do you have a
favorite MPM, or is mpmt_pthread the correct one to choose?
Ryan
_______________________________________________________________________________
Ryan Bloom rbb@apache.org
406 29th St.
San Francisco, CA 94131
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Re: Beta reminder
Posted by Brian Behlendorf <br...@collab.net>.
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 rbb@covalent.net wrote:
> 5) Apache.org needs to start running Apache 2.0 if at all possible.
Has someone figured out a way for me to handle the tomcat stuff we run? I
could punt and make them static pages, but I doubt the jakarta folks would
be happy with that. Aside from that, I'm happy to run it - has someone
compiled it on locus and tried it with our httpd.conf?
Brian