WS Addressing in jre-1.6.properties

[Juan José Vázquez Delgado <ju...@gmail.com>]

Hi!,

Is there any reason why we aren't providing javax.xml.ws.wsaddressing
as a system package in jre-1.6.properties [1]?. I have an issue
regarding this.

Thanks and regards,

Juanjo.

[1] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/sling/trunk/launchpad/base/src/main/resources/jre-1.6.properties

Re: WS Addressing in jre-1.6.properties

[Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com>]

Hi,

On 12.02.2010 23:26, Karl Pauls wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 12.02.2010 23:18, Karl Pauls wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> No, we don't. We also treat them differently: In Felix it is a single
>>>> properties file containing all jre-xxx properties, while we have
>>>> separate files per version. Also Felix attaches a version (the version
>>>> of the JRE) to the exports, which I think is not 100% accurate....
>>>
>>> Well, maybe this is stuff we can address at felix.
>>
>>> The version is
>>> still an interesting problem. What do you think is a "100% accurate"?
>>
>> The list includes a number of API which has its own versioning live
>> which is not the same as the JRE version. Now exporting all with the JRE
>> version might create problems.
> 
> Ah ok. You are talking about none jre packages right? Well, obviously,
> they should be exported with their own versions but don't you use the
> system.packages.extra prop for those?

No, we don't use that property. And I just used these packages, because
off hand, I knew best about them.

But what about javax.management.* ? This is included in JRE 1.6 but the
official API version is 1.4 (JSR-3 MR5) (and JMX 2 is planned for Java 7
(well, yes, hmm, ...)). Or the various org.xml, org.w3c etc. APIs.

Regards
Felix

> 
> regards,
> 
> Karl
> 
>> While, not contained in the list, the javax.jcr.* packages which exist
>> as 1.0 and 2.0 and the javax.servlet.* packages existing as 2.x come to
>> mind.
>>
>> Regards
>> Felix
>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Felix
>>>>
>>>> On 12.02.2010 23:00, Karl Pauls wrote:
>>>>> Don't we just get them from felix directly? If not, wouldn't it be
>>>>> better to get them from there (no need to have two sources of problems
>>>>> :-)?
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Karl
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But we maintain our own jre-1.6.properties, so we might want to add
>>>>>> these, too, right ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Felix
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12.02.2010 13:07, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>>>>>>> Juan José Vázquez Delgado wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi!,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there any reason why we aren't providing javax.xml.ws.wsaddressing
>>>>>>>> as a system package in jre-1.6.properties [1]?. I have an issue
>>>>>>>> regarding this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've no clue but two comments :)
>>>>>>> - this package is also missing in the default jre properties of the
>>>>>>> Felix framework (so maybe we're missing them because we copied from there?)
>>>>>>> - I thought we don't need these props at all anymore as Felix framework
>>>>>>> already contains them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

Re: WS Addressing in jre-1.6.properties

[Karl Pauls <ka...@gmail.com>]

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 12.02.2010 23:18, Karl Pauls wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> No, we don't. We also treat them differently: In Felix it is a single
>>> properties file containing all jre-xxx properties, while we have
>>> separate files per version. Also Felix attaches a version (the version
>>> of the JRE) to the exports, which I think is not 100% accurate....
>>
>> Well, maybe this is stuff we can address at felix.
>
>> The version is
>> still an interesting problem. What do you think is a "100% accurate"?
>
> The list includes a number of API which has its own versioning live
> which is not the same as the JRE version. Now exporting all with the JRE
> version might create problems.

Ah ok. You are talking about none jre packages right? Well, obviously,
they should be exported with their own versions but don't you use the
system.packages.extra prop for those?

regards,

Karl

> While, not contained in the list, the javax.jcr.* packages which exist
> as 1.0 and 2.0 and the javax.servlet.* packages existing as 2.x come to
> mind.
>
> Regards
> Felix
>
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>> Regards
>>> Felix
>>>
>>> On 12.02.2010 23:00, Karl Pauls wrote:
>>>> Don't we just get them from felix directly? If not, wouldn't it be
>>>> better to get them from there (no need to have two sources of problems
>>>> :-)?
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>>
>>>> Karl
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> But we maintain our own jre-1.6.properties, so we might want to add
>>>>> these, too, right ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Felix
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12.02.2010 13:07, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>>>>>> Juan José Vázquez Delgado wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi!,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there any reason why we aren't providing javax.xml.ws.wsaddressing
>>>>>>> as a system package in jre-1.6.properties [1]?. I have an issue
>>>>>>> regarding this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've no clue but two comments :)
>>>>>> - this package is also missing in the default jre properties of the
>>>>>> Felix framework (so maybe we're missing them because we copied from there?)
>>>>>> - I thought we don't need these props at all anymore as Felix framework
>>>>>> already contains them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



-- 
Karl Pauls
karlpauls@gmail.com

Re: WS Addressing in jre-1.6.properties

[Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com>]

Hi,

On 12.02.2010 23:18, Karl Pauls wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> No, we don't. We also treat them differently: In Felix it is a single
>> properties file containing all jre-xxx properties, while we have
>> separate files per version. Also Felix attaches a version (the version
>> of the JRE) to the exports, which I think is not 100% accurate....
> 
> Well, maybe this is stuff we can address at felix.

> The version is
> still an interesting problem. What do you think is a "100% accurate"?

The list includes a number of API which has its own versioning live
which is not the same as the JRE version. Now exporting all with the JRE
version might create problems.

While, not contained in the list, the javax.jcr.* packages which exist
as 1.0 and 2.0 and the javax.servlet.* packages existing as 2.x come to
mind.

Regards
Felix

> 
> regards,
> 
> Karl
> 
>> Regards
>> Felix
>>
>> On 12.02.2010 23:00, Karl Pauls wrote:
>>> Don't we just get them from felix directly? If not, wouldn't it be
>>> better to get them from there (no need to have two sources of problems
>>> :-)?
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> But we maintain our own jre-1.6.properties, so we might want to add
>>>> these, too, right ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Felix
>>>>
>>>> On 12.02.2010 13:07, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>>>>> Juan José Vázquez Delgado wrote:
>>>>>> Hi!,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there any reason why we aren't providing javax.xml.ws.wsaddressing
>>>>>> as a system package in jre-1.6.properties [1]?. I have an issue
>>>>>> regarding this.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I've no clue but two comments :)
>>>>> - this package is also missing in the default jre properties of the
>>>>> Felix framework (so maybe we're missing them because we copied from there?)
>>>>> - I thought we don't need these props at all anymore as Felix framework
>>>>> already contains them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

Re: WS Addressing in jre-1.6.properties

[Karl Pauls <ka...@gmail.com>]

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> No, we don't. We also treat them differently: In Felix it is a single
> properties file containing all jre-xxx properties, while we have
> separate files per version. Also Felix attaches a version (the version
> of the JRE) to the exports, which I think is not 100% accurate....

Well, maybe this is stuff we can address at felix. The version is
still an interesting problem. What do you think is a "100% accurate"?

regards,

Karl

> Regards
> Felix
>
> On 12.02.2010 23:00, Karl Pauls wrote:
>> Don't we just get them from felix directly? If not, wouldn't it be
>> better to get them from there (no need to have two sources of problems
>> :-)?
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Karl
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> But we maintain our own jre-1.6.properties, so we might want to add
>>> these, too, right ?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Felix
>>>
>>> On 12.02.2010 13:07, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>>>> Juan José Vázquez Delgado wrote:
>>>>> Hi!,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any reason why we aren't providing javax.xml.ws.wsaddressing
>>>>> as a system package in jre-1.6.properties [1]?. I have an issue
>>>>> regarding this.
>>>>>
>>>> I've no clue but two comments :)
>>>> - this package is also missing in the default jre properties of the
>>>> Felix framework (so maybe we're missing them because we copied from there?)
>>>> - I thought we don't need these props at all anymore as Felix framework
>>>> already contains them.
>>>>
>>>> Carsten
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



-- 
Karl Pauls
karlpauls@gmail.com

Re: WS Addressing in jre-1.6.properties

[Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com>]

Hi,

No, we don't. We also treat them differently: In Felix it is a single
properties file containing all jre-xxx properties, while we have
separate files per version. Also Felix attaches a version (the version
of the JRE) to the exports, which I think is not 100% accurate....

Regards
Felix

On 12.02.2010 23:00, Karl Pauls wrote:
> Don't we just get them from felix directly? If not, wouldn't it be
> better to get them from there (no need to have two sources of problems
> :-)?
> 
> regards,
> 
> Karl
> 
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> But we maintain our own jre-1.6.properties, so we might want to add
>> these, too, right ?
>>
>> Regards
>> Felix
>>
>> On 12.02.2010 13:07, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>>> Juan José Vázquez Delgado wrote:
>>>> Hi!,
>>>>
>>>> Is there any reason why we aren't providing javax.xml.ws.wsaddressing
>>>> as a system package in jre-1.6.properties [1]?. I have an issue
>>>> regarding this.
>>>>
>>> I've no clue but two comments :)
>>> - this package is also missing in the default jre properties of the
>>> Felix framework (so maybe we're missing them because we copied from there?)
>>> - I thought we don't need these props at all anymore as Felix framework
>>> already contains them.
>>>
>>> Carsten
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

Re: WS Addressing in jre-1.6.properties

[Karl Pauls <ka...@gmail.com>]

Don't we just get them from felix directly? If not, wouldn't it be
better to get them from there (no need to have two sources of problems
:-)?

regards,

Karl

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> But we maintain our own jre-1.6.properties, so we might want to add
> these, too, right ?
>
> Regards
> Felix
>
> On 12.02.2010 13:07, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>> Juan José Vázquez Delgado wrote:
>>> Hi!,
>>>
>>> Is there any reason why we aren't providing javax.xml.ws.wsaddressing
>>> as a system package in jre-1.6.properties [1]?. I have an issue
>>> regarding this.
>>>
>> I've no clue but two comments :)
>> - this package is also missing in the default jre properties of the
>> Felix framework (so maybe we're missing them because we copied from there?)
>> - I thought we don't need these props at all anymore as Felix framework
>> already contains them.
>>
>> Carsten
>>
>
>



-- 
Karl Pauls
karlpauls@gmail.com

Re: WS Addressing in jre-1.6.properties

[Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com>]

Hi,

But we maintain our own jre-1.6.properties, so we might want to add
these, too, right ?

Regards
Felix

On 12.02.2010 13:07, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> Juan José Vázquez Delgado wrote:
>> Hi!,
>>
>> Is there any reason why we aren't providing javax.xml.ws.wsaddressing
>> as a system package in jre-1.6.properties [1]?. I have an issue
>> regarding this.
>>
> I've no clue but two comments :)
> - this package is also missing in the default jre properties of the
> Felix framework (so maybe we're missing them because we copied from there?)
> - I thought we don't need these props at all anymore as Felix framework
> already contains them.
> 
> Carsten
> 

Re: WS Addressing in jre-1.6.properties

[Juan José Vázquez Delgado <ju...@gmail.com>]

> And the answer is probably that we just did forget about the package :-)
>
> Feel free to open a jira about it at felix.

Thank you Karl, I'll do it.

BR,

Juanjo.

Re: WS Addressing in jre-1.6.properties

[Karl Pauls <ka...@gmail.com>]

And the answer is probably that we just did forget about the package :-)

Feel free to open a jira about it at felix.

regards,

Karl

2010/2/12 Juan José Vázquez Delgado <ju...@gmail.com>:
>> - this package is also missing in the default jre properties of the
>> Felix framework (so maybe we're missing them because we copied from there?)
>
> Yes, it's true. This question is probably more suitable for the Felix list then.
>
> Thanks.
>
> BR,
>
> Juanjo.
>



-- 
Karl Pauls
karlpauls@gmail.com

Re: WS Addressing in jre-1.6.properties

[Juan José Vázquez Delgado <ju...@gmail.com>]

> - this package is also missing in the default jre properties of the
> Felix framework (so maybe we're missing them because we copied from there?)

Yes, it's true. This question is probably more suitable for the Felix list then.

Thanks.

BR,

Juanjo.

Re: WS Addressing in jre-1.6.properties

[Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@apache.org>]

Juan José Vázquez Delgado wrote:
> Hi!,
> 
> Is there any reason why we aren't providing javax.xml.ws.wsaddressing
> as a system package in jre-1.6.properties [1]?. I have an issue
> regarding this.
> 
I've no clue but two comments :)
- this package is also missing in the default jre properties of the
Felix framework (so maybe we're missing them because we copied from there?)
- I thought we don't need these props at all anymore as Felix framework
already contains them.

Carsten

-- 
Carsten Ziegeler
cziegeler@apache.org