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Re: [HEADS UP] Update to Apache Karaf 4.2.x & provisioning proposal
Just a friendly reminder :)
On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 at 09:59, Ignasi Barrera <na...@apache.org> wrote:
> Nice! Look forward to discussing that proposal :)
> On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 18:36, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > just a quick update about that.
> >
> > I fixed the issue I had on the commands (updated with new Karaf 4.x
> > annotation). I'm adding features verify and itests, I would also like to
> > test compute service and blobstore on a couple of providers (ec2 and
> > azure). The PR should happen pretty soon.
> >
> > On the provisioning side, I'm testing Karaf and pure Java application
> > provisioning on Azure and Amazon EC2 for now. It's still in early stage
> > but promising. I need more time to have a complete and concrete proposal
> > on that.
> >
> > I keep you posted.
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On 03/10/2018 10:56, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> > > Awesome !
> > >
> > > Thanks guys for the interest ! I think it would be a great new feature
> > > in jClouds.
> > >
> > > So yes, I will definitely keep you posted.
> > >
> > > But first, Karaf 4.2.x and Java8 full support in jclouds-karaf ;)
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > JB
> > >
> > > On 03/10/2018 10:53, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
> > >> This application runtime provisioning concept definitively looks
> > >> interesting. I'd love to discuss how it should look like and what
> > >> makes sense, so please, keep us posted and share the progress of your
> > >> PoC and the ideas that may come from it.
> > >> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 10:50, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Andrea,
> > >>>
> > >>> For jCloud compute abstraction, I think I can do something
> "compliant".
> > >>> jClouds and Karaf instance (or even Cellar node) can map indeed.
> > >>>
> > >>> For now it's a rough idea, but I will started a PoC on this area. I
> > >>> think other "application runtime provisioning" support can be
> interested
> > >>> in jClouds.
> > >>>
> > >>> Let me start a PoC (I will probably bother you with some questions
> ;)),
> > >>> I keep you posted.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks !
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards
> > >>> JB
> > >>>
> > >>> On 03/10/2018 09:14, Andrea Turli wrote:
> > >>>> Interesting idea!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> As Andrew I've little knowledge of karaf, how do you think it will
> fit with
> > >>>> the jclouds compute abstraction? To what can you map jclouds node
> in the
> > >>>> karaf world? A Karaf container or a "service" running inside the
> karaf
> > >>>> container? What's an jclouds image or location in that respect?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Il mer 3 ott 2018, 07:05 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> ha
> scritto:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi Andrew,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> exactly, you got the idea.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> For instance, it could result to create a AMI on Amazon EC2, etc.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The purpose is exactly what you described:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> - be able to install a Karaf instance on a cloud provider
> > >>>>> - control the "cloud Karaf instance" (start, stop, ...)
> > >>>>> - expose this instance as a compute service
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> It's something I planned in Karaf Cellar, but I think it makes more
> > >>>>> sense to have in jclouds (and Cellar will leverage jClouds).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Regards
> > >>>>> JB
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 03/10/2018 01:46, Andrew Phillips wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> On the other hand, I was thinking about adding a
> Provisioning/Compute
> > >>>>>>>>> Service for Karaf. The idea is to easily provision and
> bootstrap
> > >>>>> Apache
> > >>>>>>>>> Karaf runtime (vanilla or custom) on a cloud provider.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> If I understand this correctly, the idea is firstly to use
> jclouds to
> > >>>>>> install (?) a Karaf runtime on a cloud provider, then expose that
> > >>>>>> runtime as a compute service in its own right?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> That would be an interesting idea that I don't think has been
> tried
> > >>>>>> previously - in what sense (question from someone with little
> Karaf
> > >>>>>> background here) does Karaf fit the model of a cloud compute
> service?
> > >>>>>> What type of "things" can you provision in Karaf, for example?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Regards
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ap
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> > >>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
> > >>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> > >>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> > >>> jbonofre@apache.org
> > >>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> > >>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> > >
>
Re: [HEADS UP] Update to Apache Karaf 4.2.x & provisioning proposal
Posted by Andrew Phillips <ap...@qrmedia.com>.
> I will open the PR during the week end.
Great, thank you!!
ap
Re: [HEADS UP] Update to Apache Karaf 4.2.x & provisioning proposal
Posted by Ignasi Barrera <na...@apache.org>.
Yeah! Thanks!! :)
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 at 07:36, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> sorry for the delay, I was swamped with a customer this week. I will
> open the PR during the week end.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 31/01/2019 20:31, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> > Fair enough for the PR ;)
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On 31/01/2019 19:32, Andrea Turli wrote:
> >> Awesome!
> >>
> >> I think a PR would be really appreciated
> >>
> >> Il giorno gio 31 gen 2019, 19:20 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> ha
> >> scritto:
> >>
> >>> Hi guys,
> >>>
> >>> I moved forward today on karaf-jclouds, scm, upgrading the plugin,
> karaf
> >>> 4.2.2, features, itest, commands approach, ...
> >>>
> >>> Should I create a PR or push directly ?
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> JB
> >>>
> >>> On 28/01/2019 20:13, Andrew Gaul wrote:
> >>>> Jean-Baptiste, thanks for working on this. Do you anticipate
> concluding
> >>>> this work soon? It blocks releasing jclouds 2.2.0 with the intended
> >>>> Java 8 and Guava changes we would like to release to users.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 02:21:26PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> >>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the first PR about Karaf 4.2.x support in jclouds is almost done
> >>>>> (including itests, new commands, etc).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For the second part about provisioning feature, I need to do some
> >>>>> cleanup on the PoC before starting a concrete discussion.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I keep you posted asap !
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>> JB
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 20/11/2018 06:17, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Ignasi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks for the reminder ;)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I did some improvements in Karaf 4.2.2-SNAPSHOT to speed up jclouds
> and
> >>>>>> the "provisioning" feature we discussed.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> First PR (just Karaf 4.2.x update) is almost done, I will submit it
> >>> soon
> >>>>>> (tomorrow or the day after probably).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For the "provisioning" proposal, I'm still have work to do but it's
> on
> >>>>>> the right way to be discussed.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sorry for the delay, but it's coming ;)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 19/11/2018 23:01, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
> >>>>>>> Just a friendly reminder :)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 at 09:59, Ignasi Barrera <na...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Nice! Look forward to discussing that proposal :)
> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 18:36, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> jb@nanthrax.net>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> just a quick update about that.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I fixed the issue I had on the commands (updated with new Karaf
> 4.x
> >>>>>>>>> annotation). I'm adding features verify and itests, I would also
> >>> like to
> >>>>>>>>> test compute service and blobstore on a couple of providers (ec2
> and
> >>>>>>>>> azure). The PR should happen pretty soon.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On the provisioning side, I'm testing Karaf and pure Java
> >>> application
> >>>>>>>>> provisioning on Azure and Amazon EC2 for now. It's still in early
> >>> stage
> >>>>>>>>> but promising. I need more time to have a complete and concrete
> >>> proposal
> >>>>>>>>> on that.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I keep you posted.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 10:56, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Awesome !
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks guys for the interest ! I think it would be a great new
> >>> feature
> >>>>>>>>>> in jClouds.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So yes, I will definitely keep you posted.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> But first, Karaf 4.2.x and Java8 full support in jclouds-karaf
> ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 10:53, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> This application runtime provisioning concept definitively
> looks
> >>>>>>>>>>> interesting. I'd love to discuss how it should look like and
> what
> >>>>>>>>>>> makes sense, so please, keep us posted and share the progress
> of
> >>> your
> >>>>>>>>>>> PoC and the ideas that may come from it.
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 10:50, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> >>> jb@nanthrax.net>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrea,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> For jCloud compute abstraction, I think I can do something
> >>>>>>>> "compliant".
> >>>>>>>>>>>> jClouds and Karaf instance (or even Cellar node) can map
> indeed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> For now it's a rough idea, but I will started a PoC on this
> >>> area. I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> think other "application runtime provisioning" support can be
> >>>>>>>> interested
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in jClouds.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let me start a PoC (I will probably bother you with some
> >>> questions
> >>>>>>>> ;)),
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I keep you posted.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks !
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 09:14, Andrea Turli wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting idea!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> As Andrew I've little knowledge of karaf, how do you think it
> >>> will
> >>>>>>>> fit with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the jclouds compute abstraction? To what can you map jclouds
> >>> node
> >>>>>>>> in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> karaf world? A Karaf container or a "service" running inside
> the
> >>>>>>>> karaf
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> container? What's an jclouds image or location in that
> respect?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Il mer 3 ott 2018, 07:05 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> jb@nanthrax.net>
> >>> ha
> >>>>>>>> scritto:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> exactly, you got the idea.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For instance, it could result to create a AMI on Amazon EC2,
> >>> etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The purpose is exactly what you described:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - be able to install a Karaf instance on a cloud provider
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - control the "cloud Karaf instance" (start, stop, ...)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - expose this instance as a compute service
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's something I planned in Karaf Cellar, but I think it
> makes
> >>> more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sense to have in jclouds (and Cellar will leverage jClouds).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 01:46, Andrew Phillips wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, I was thinking about adding a
> >>>>>>>> Provisioning/Compute
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Service for Karaf. The idea is to easily provision and
> >>>>>>>> bootstrap
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf runtime (vanilla or custom) on a cloud provider.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I understand this correctly, the idea is firstly to use
> >>>>>>>> jclouds to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install (?) a Karaf runtime on a cloud provider, then
> expose
> >>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runtime as a compute service in its own right?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would be an interesting idea that I don't think has
> been
> >>>>>>>> tried
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previously - in what sense (question from someone with
> little
> >>>>>>>> Karaf
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> background here) does Karaf fit the model of a cloud
> compute
> >>>>>>>> service?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What type of "things" can you provision in Karaf, for
> example?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ap
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >>>>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
Re: [HEADS UP] Update to Apache Karaf 4.2.x & provisioning proposal
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi guys,
sorry for the delay, I was swamped with a customer this week. I will
open the PR during the week end.
Regards
JB
On 31/01/2019 20:31, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> Fair enough for the PR ;)
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 31/01/2019 19:32, Andrea Turli wrote:
>> Awesome!
>>
>> I think a PR would be really appreciated
>>
>> Il giorno gio 31 gen 2019, 19:20 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> ha
>> scritto:
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> I moved forward today on karaf-jclouds, scm, upgrading the plugin, karaf
>>> 4.2.2, features, itest, commands approach, ...
>>>
>>> Should I create a PR or push directly ?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>> On 28/01/2019 20:13, Andrew Gaul wrote:
>>>> Jean-Baptiste, thanks for working on this. Do you anticipate concluding
>>>> this work soon? It blocks releasing jclouds 2.2.0 with the intended
>>>> Java 8 and Guava changes we would like to release to users.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 02:21:26PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> the first PR about Karaf 4.2.x support in jclouds is almost done
>>>>> (including itests, new commands, etc).
>>>>>
>>>>> For the second part about provisioning feature, I need to do some
>>>>> cleanup on the PoC before starting a concrete discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> I keep you posted asap !
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>>
>>>>> On 20/11/2018 06:17, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Ignasi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the reminder ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did some improvements in Karaf 4.2.2-SNAPSHOT to speed up jclouds and
>>>>>> the "provisioning" feature we discussed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First PR (just Karaf 4.2.x update) is almost done, I will submit it
>>> soon
>>>>>> (tomorrow or the day after probably).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the "provisioning" proposal, I'm still have work to do but it's on
>>>>>> the right way to be discussed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, but it's coming ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19/11/2018 23:01, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
>>>>>>> Just a friendly reminder :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 at 09:59, Ignasi Barrera <na...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nice! Look forward to discussing that proposal :)
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 18:36, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> just a quick update about that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I fixed the issue I had on the commands (updated with new Karaf 4.x
>>>>>>>>> annotation). I'm adding features verify and itests, I would also
>>> like to
>>>>>>>>> test compute service and blobstore on a couple of providers (ec2 and
>>>>>>>>> azure). The PR should happen pretty soon.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On the provisioning side, I'm testing Karaf and pure Java
>>> application
>>>>>>>>> provisioning on Azure and Amazon EC2 for now. It's still in early
>>> stage
>>>>>>>>> but promising. I need more time to have a complete and concrete
>>> proposal
>>>>>>>>> on that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I keep you posted.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 10:56, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Awesome !
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks guys for the interest ! I think it would be a great new
>>> feature
>>>>>>>>>> in jClouds.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So yes, I will definitely keep you posted.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But first, Karaf 4.2.x and Java8 full support in jclouds-karaf ;)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 10:53, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> This application runtime provisioning concept definitively looks
>>>>>>>>>>> interesting. I'd love to discuss how it should look like and what
>>>>>>>>>>> makes sense, so please, keep us posted and share the progress of
>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>> PoC and the ideas that may come from it.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 10:50, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>>> jb@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrea,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For jCloud compute abstraction, I think I can do something
>>>>>>>> "compliant".
>>>>>>>>>>>> jClouds and Karaf instance (or even Cellar node) can map indeed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For now it's a rough idea, but I will started a PoC on this
>>> area. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> think other "application runtime provisioning" support can be
>>>>>>>> interested
>>>>>>>>>>>> in jClouds.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me start a PoC (I will probably bother you with some
>>> questions
>>>>>>>> ;)),
>>>>>>>>>>>> I keep you posted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks !
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 09:14, Andrea Turli wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting idea!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As Andrew I've little knowledge of karaf, how do you think it
>>> will
>>>>>>>> fit with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the jclouds compute abstraction? To what can you map jclouds
>>> node
>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> karaf world? A Karaf container or a "service" running inside the
>>>>>>>> karaf
>>>>>>>>>>>>> container? What's an jclouds image or location in that respect?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Il mer 3 ott 2018, 07:05 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>> ha
>>>>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exactly, you got the idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For instance, it could result to create a AMI on Amazon EC2,
>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The purpose is exactly what you described:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - be able to install a Karaf instance on a cloud provider
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - control the "cloud Karaf instance" (start, stop, ...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - expose this instance as a compute service
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's something I planned in Karaf Cellar, but I think it makes
>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sense to have in jclouds (and Cellar will leverage jClouds).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 01:46, Andrew Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, I was thinking about adding a
>>>>>>>> Provisioning/Compute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Service for Karaf. The idea is to easily provision and
>>>>>>>> bootstrap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf runtime (vanilla or custom) on a cloud provider.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I understand this correctly, the idea is firstly to use
>>>>>>>> jclouds to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install (?) a Karaf runtime on a cloud provider, then expose
>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runtime as a compute service in its own right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would be an interesting idea that I don't think has been
>>>>>>>> tried
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previously - in what sense (question from someone with little
>>>>>>>> Karaf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> background here) does Karaf fit the model of a cloud compute
>>>>>>>> service?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What type of "things" can you provision in Karaf, for example?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [HEADS UP] Update to Apache Karaf 4.2.x & provisioning proposal
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Fair enough for the PR ;)
Regards
JB
On 31/01/2019 19:32, Andrea Turli wrote:
> Awesome!
>
> I think a PR would be really appreciated
>
> Il giorno gio 31 gen 2019, 19:20 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> ha
> scritto:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I moved forward today on karaf-jclouds, scm, upgrading the plugin, karaf
>> 4.2.2, features, itest, commands approach, ...
>>
>> Should I create a PR or push directly ?
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 28/01/2019 20:13, Andrew Gaul wrote:
>>> Jean-Baptiste, thanks for working on this. Do you anticipate concluding
>>> this work soon? It blocks releasing jclouds 2.2.0 with the intended
>>> Java 8 and Guava changes we would like to release to users.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 02:21:26PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> the first PR about Karaf 4.2.x support in jclouds is almost done
>>>> (including itests, new commands, etc).
>>>>
>>>> For the second part about provisioning feature, I need to do some
>>>> cleanup on the PoC before starting a concrete discussion.
>>>>
>>>> I keep you posted asap !
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>> On 20/11/2018 06:17, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>>> Hi Ignasi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the reminder ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> I did some improvements in Karaf 4.2.2-SNAPSHOT to speed up jclouds and
>>>>> the "provisioning" feature we discussed.
>>>>>
>>>>> First PR (just Karaf 4.2.x update) is almost done, I will submit it
>> soon
>>>>> (tomorrow or the day after probably).
>>>>>
>>>>> For the "provisioning" proposal, I'm still have work to do but it's on
>>>>> the right way to be discussed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for the delay, but it's coming ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19/11/2018 23:01, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
>>>>>> Just a friendly reminder :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 at 09:59, Ignasi Barrera <na...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice! Look forward to discussing that proposal :)
>>>>>>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 18:36, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> just a quick update about that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I fixed the issue I had on the commands (updated with new Karaf 4.x
>>>>>>>> annotation). I'm adding features verify and itests, I would also
>> like to
>>>>>>>> test compute service and blobstore on a couple of providers (ec2 and
>>>>>>>> azure). The PR should happen pretty soon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the provisioning side, I'm testing Karaf and pure Java
>> application
>>>>>>>> provisioning on Azure and Amazon EC2 for now. It's still in early
>> stage
>>>>>>>> but promising. I need more time to have a complete and concrete
>> proposal
>>>>>>>> on that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I keep you posted.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 10:56, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Awesome !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks guys for the interest ! I think it would be a great new
>> feature
>>>>>>>>> in jClouds.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So yes, I will definitely keep you posted.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But first, Karaf 4.2.x and Java8 full support in jclouds-karaf ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 10:53, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> This application runtime provisioning concept definitively looks
>>>>>>>>>> interesting. I'd love to discuss how it should look like and what
>>>>>>>>>> makes sense, so please, keep us posted and share the progress of
>> your
>>>>>>>>>> PoC and the ideas that may come from it.
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 10:50, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>> jb@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrea,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For jCloud compute abstraction, I think I can do something
>>>>>>> "compliant".
>>>>>>>>>>> jClouds and Karaf instance (or even Cellar node) can map indeed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For now it's a rough idea, but I will started a PoC on this
>> area. I
>>>>>>>>>>> think other "application runtime provisioning" support can be
>>>>>>> interested
>>>>>>>>>>> in jClouds.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Let me start a PoC (I will probably bother you with some
>> questions
>>>>>>> ;)),
>>>>>>>>>>> I keep you posted.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks !
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 09:14, Andrea Turli wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting idea!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As Andrew I've little knowledge of karaf, how do you think it
>> will
>>>>>>> fit with
>>>>>>>>>>>> the jclouds compute abstraction? To what can you map jclouds
>> node
>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> karaf world? A Karaf container or a "service" running inside the
>>>>>>> karaf
>>>>>>>>>>>> container? What's an jclouds image or location in that respect?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Il mer 3 ott 2018, 07:05 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>> ha
>>>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> exactly, you got the idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For instance, it could result to create a AMI on Amazon EC2,
>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The purpose is exactly what you described:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - be able to install a Karaf instance on a cloud provider
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - control the "cloud Karaf instance" (start, stop, ...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - expose this instance as a compute service
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's something I planned in Karaf Cellar, but I think it makes
>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sense to have in jclouds (and Cellar will leverage jClouds).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 01:46, Andrew Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, I was thinking about adding a
>>>>>>> Provisioning/Compute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Service for Karaf. The idea is to easily provision and
>>>>>>> bootstrap
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf runtime (vanilla or custom) on a cloud provider.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I understand this correctly, the idea is firstly to use
>>>>>>> jclouds to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install (?) a Karaf runtime on a cloud provider, then expose
>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> runtime as a compute service in its own right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would be an interesting idea that I don't think has been
>>>>>>> tried
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previously - in what sense (question from someone with little
>>>>>>> Karaf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> background here) does Karaf fit the model of a cloud compute
>>>>>>> service?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What type of "things" can you provision in Karaf, for example?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [HEADS UP] Update to Apache Karaf 4.2.x & provisioning proposal
Posted by Andrea Turli <an...@gmail.com>.
Awesome!
I think a PR would be really appreciated
Il giorno gio 31 gen 2019, 19:20 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> ha
scritto:
> Hi guys,
>
> I moved forward today on karaf-jclouds, scm, upgrading the plugin, karaf
> 4.2.2, features, itest, commands approach, ...
>
> Should I create a PR or push directly ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 28/01/2019 20:13, Andrew Gaul wrote:
> > Jean-Baptiste, thanks for working on this. Do you anticipate concluding
> > this work soon? It blocks releasing jclouds 2.2.0 with the intended
> > Java 8 and Guava changes we would like to release to users.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 02:21:26PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> the first PR about Karaf 4.2.x support in jclouds is almost done
> >> (including itests, new commands, etc).
> >>
> >> For the second part about provisioning feature, I need to do some
> >> cleanup on the PoC before starting a concrete discussion.
> >>
> >> I keep you posted asap !
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> JB
> >>
> >> On 20/11/2018 06:17, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> >>> Hi Ignasi,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the reminder ;)
> >>>
> >>> I did some improvements in Karaf 4.2.2-SNAPSHOT to speed up jclouds and
> >>> the "provisioning" feature we discussed.
> >>>
> >>> First PR (just Karaf 4.2.x update) is almost done, I will submit it
> soon
> >>> (tomorrow or the day after probably).
> >>>
> >>> For the "provisioning" proposal, I'm still have work to do but it's on
> >>> the right way to be discussed.
> >>>
> >>> Sorry for the delay, but it's coming ;)
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> JB
> >>>
> >>> On 19/11/2018 23:01, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
> >>>> Just a friendly reminder :)
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 at 09:59, Ignasi Barrera <na...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Nice! Look forward to discussing that proposal :)
> >>>>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 18:36, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> just a quick update about that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I fixed the issue I had on the commands (updated with new Karaf 4.x
> >>>>>> annotation). I'm adding features verify and itests, I would also
> like to
> >>>>>> test compute service and blobstore on a couple of providers (ec2 and
> >>>>>> azure). The PR should happen pretty soon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On the provisioning side, I'm testing Karaf and pure Java
> application
> >>>>>> provisioning on Azure and Amazon EC2 for now. It's still in early
> stage
> >>>>>> but promising. I need more time to have a complete and concrete
> proposal
> >>>>>> on that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I keep you posted.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 03/10/2018 10:56, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> >>>>>>> Awesome !
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks guys for the interest ! I think it would be a great new
> feature
> >>>>>>> in jClouds.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So yes, I will definitely keep you posted.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> But first, Karaf 4.2.x and Java8 full support in jclouds-karaf ;)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 10:53, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
> >>>>>>>> This application runtime provisioning concept definitively looks
> >>>>>>>> interesting. I'd love to discuss how it should look like and what
> >>>>>>>> makes sense, so please, keep us posted and share the progress of
> your
> >>>>>>>> PoC and the ideas that may come from it.
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 10:50, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> jb@nanthrax.net>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Andrea,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> For jCloud compute abstraction, I think I can do something
> >>>>> "compliant".
> >>>>>>>>> jClouds and Karaf instance (or even Cellar node) can map indeed.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> For now it's a rough idea, but I will started a PoC on this
> area. I
> >>>>>>>>> think other "application runtime provisioning" support can be
> >>>>> interested
> >>>>>>>>> in jClouds.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Let me start a PoC (I will probably bother you with some
> questions
> >>>>> ;)),
> >>>>>>>>> I keep you posted.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks !
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 09:14, Andrea Turli wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Interesting idea!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> As Andrew I've little knowledge of karaf, how do you think it
> will
> >>>>> fit with
> >>>>>>>>>> the jclouds compute abstraction? To what can you map jclouds
> node
> >>>>> in the
> >>>>>>>>>> karaf world? A Karaf container or a "service" running inside the
> >>>>> karaf
> >>>>>>>>>> container? What's an jclouds image or location in that respect?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Il mer 3 ott 2018, 07:05 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> ha
> >>>>> scritto:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> exactly, you got the idea.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> For instance, it could result to create a AMI on Amazon EC2,
> etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The purpose is exactly what you described:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> - be able to install a Karaf instance on a cloud provider
> >>>>>>>>>>> - control the "cloud Karaf instance" (start, stop, ...)
> >>>>>>>>>>> - expose this instance as a compute service
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It's something I planned in Karaf Cellar, but I think it makes
> more
> >>>>>>>>>>> sense to have in jclouds (and Cellar will leverage jClouds).
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 01:46, Andrew Phillips wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, I was thinking about adding a
> >>>>> Provisioning/Compute
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Service for Karaf. The idea is to easily provision and
> >>>>> bootstrap
> >>>>>>>>>>> Apache
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf runtime (vanilla or custom) on a cloud provider.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> If I understand this correctly, the idea is firstly to use
> >>>>> jclouds to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> install (?) a Karaf runtime on a cloud provider, then expose
> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>> runtime as a compute service in its own right?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> That would be an interesting idea that I don't think has been
> >>>>> tried
> >>>>>>>>>>>> previously - in what sense (question from someone with little
> >>>>> Karaf
> >>>>>>>>>>>> background here) does Karaf fit the model of a cloud compute
> >>>>> service?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> What type of "things" can you provision in Karaf, for example?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ap
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >>>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
>
Re: [HEADS UP] Update to Apache Karaf 4.2.x & provisioning proposal
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi guys,
I moved forward today on karaf-jclouds, scm, upgrading the plugin, karaf
4.2.2, features, itest, commands approach, ...
Should I create a PR or push directly ?
Regards
JB
On 28/01/2019 20:13, Andrew Gaul wrote:
> Jean-Baptiste, thanks for working on this. Do you anticipate concluding
> this work soon? It blocks releasing jclouds 2.2.0 with the intended
> Java 8 and Guava changes we would like to release to users.
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 02:21:26PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> the first PR about Karaf 4.2.x support in jclouds is almost done
>> (including itests, new commands, etc).
>>
>> For the second part about provisioning feature, I need to do some
>> cleanup on the PoC before starting a concrete discussion.
>>
>> I keep you posted asap !
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 20/11/2018 06:17, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>> Hi Ignasi,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reminder ;)
>>>
>>> I did some improvements in Karaf 4.2.2-SNAPSHOT to speed up jclouds and
>>> the "provisioning" feature we discussed.
>>>
>>> First PR (just Karaf 4.2.x update) is almost done, I will submit it soon
>>> (tomorrow or the day after probably).
>>>
>>> For the "provisioning" proposal, I'm still have work to do but it's on
>>> the right way to be discussed.
>>>
>>> Sorry for the delay, but it's coming ;)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>> On 19/11/2018 23:01, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
>>>> Just a friendly reminder :)
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 at 09:59, Ignasi Barrera <na...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nice! Look forward to discussing that proposal :)
>>>>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 18:36, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just a quick update about that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I fixed the issue I had on the commands (updated with new Karaf 4.x
>>>>>> annotation). I'm adding features verify and itests, I would also like to
>>>>>> test compute service and blobstore on a couple of providers (ec2 and
>>>>>> azure). The PR should happen pretty soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the provisioning side, I'm testing Karaf and pure Java application
>>>>>> provisioning on Azure and Amazon EC2 for now. It's still in early stage
>>>>>> but promising. I need more time to have a complete and concrete proposal
>>>>>> on that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I keep you posted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 10:56, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>>>>> Awesome !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks guys for the interest ! I think it would be a great new feature
>>>>>>> in jClouds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So yes, I will definitely keep you posted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But first, Karaf 4.2.x and Java8 full support in jclouds-karaf ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 10:53, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
>>>>>>>> This application runtime provisioning concept definitively looks
>>>>>>>> interesting. I'd love to discuss how it should look like and what
>>>>>>>> makes sense, so please, keep us posted and share the progress of your
>>>>>>>> PoC and the ideas that may come from it.
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 10:50, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrea,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For jCloud compute abstraction, I think I can do something
>>>>> "compliant".
>>>>>>>>> jClouds and Karaf instance (or even Cellar node) can map indeed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For now it's a rough idea, but I will started a PoC on this area. I
>>>>>>>>> think other "application runtime provisioning" support can be
>>>>> interested
>>>>>>>>> in jClouds.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let me start a PoC (I will probably bother you with some questions
>>>>> ;)),
>>>>>>>>> I keep you posted.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 09:14, Andrea Turli wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Interesting idea!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As Andrew I've little knowledge of karaf, how do you think it will
>>>>> fit with
>>>>>>>>>> the jclouds compute abstraction? To what can you map jclouds node
>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>> karaf world? A Karaf container or a "service" running inside the
>>>>> karaf
>>>>>>>>>> container? What's an jclouds image or location in that respect?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Il mer 3 ott 2018, 07:05 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> ha
>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> exactly, you got the idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For instance, it could result to create a AMI on Amazon EC2, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The purpose is exactly what you described:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - be able to install a Karaf instance on a cloud provider
>>>>>>>>>>> - control the "cloud Karaf instance" (start, stop, ...)
>>>>>>>>>>> - expose this instance as a compute service
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's something I planned in Karaf Cellar, but I think it makes more
>>>>>>>>>>> sense to have in jclouds (and Cellar will leverage jClouds).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 01:46, Andrew Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, I was thinking about adding a
>>>>> Provisioning/Compute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Service for Karaf. The idea is to easily provision and
>>>>> bootstrap
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf runtime (vanilla or custom) on a cloud provider.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If I understand this correctly, the idea is firstly to use
>>>>> jclouds to
>>>>>>>>>>>> install (?) a Karaf runtime on a cloud provider, then expose that
>>>>>>>>>>>> runtime as a compute service in its own right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That would be an interesting idea that I don't think has been
>>>>> tried
>>>>>>>>>>>> previously - in what sense (question from someone with little
>>>>> Karaf
>>>>>>>>>>>> background here) does Karaf fit the model of a cloud compute
>>>>> service?
>>>>>>>>>>>> What type of "things" can you provision in Karaf, for example?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ap
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
Re: [HEADS UP] Update to Apache Karaf 4.2.x & provisioning proposal
Posted by Ignasi Barrera <na...@apache.org>.
Yes it is ok.
We really appreciate the help. But if for some reason you preview you're
not going to be able to complete it, please let us know and we'll try to
take over (with some guidance :)). It's been quite a long time and we
really look forward to unblocking this.
Thanks again!
I.
On Mon, Jan 28, 2019, 20:35 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> I'm busy today with Karaf 4.2.3 preparation, but I should be able to
> provide the jclouds Karaf 4.2.x compliant features this week.
>
> Is it OK ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 28/01/2019 20:13, Andrew Gaul wrote:
> > Jean-Baptiste, thanks for working on this. Do you anticipate concluding
> > this work soon? It blocks releasing jclouds 2.2.0 with the intended
> > Java 8 and Guava changes we would like to release to users.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 02:21:26PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> the first PR about Karaf 4.2.x support in jclouds is almost done
> >> (including itests, new commands, etc).
> >>
> >> For the second part about provisioning feature, I need to do some
> >> cleanup on the PoC before starting a concrete discussion.
> >>
> >> I keep you posted asap !
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> JB
> >>
> >> On 20/11/2018 06:17, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> >>> Hi Ignasi,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the reminder ;)
> >>>
> >>> I did some improvements in Karaf 4.2.2-SNAPSHOT to speed up jclouds and
> >>> the "provisioning" feature we discussed.
> >>>
> >>> First PR (just Karaf 4.2.x update) is almost done, I will submit it
> soon
> >>> (tomorrow or the day after probably).
> >>>
> >>> For the "provisioning" proposal, I'm still have work to do but it's on
> >>> the right way to be discussed.
> >>>
> >>> Sorry for the delay, but it's coming ;)
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> JB
> >>>
> >>> On 19/11/2018 23:01, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
> >>>> Just a friendly reminder :)
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 at 09:59, Ignasi Barrera <na...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Nice! Look forward to discussing that proposal :)
> >>>>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 18:36, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> just a quick update about that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I fixed the issue I had on the commands (updated with new Karaf 4.x
> >>>>>> annotation). I'm adding features verify and itests, I would also
> like to
> >>>>>> test compute service and blobstore on a couple of providers (ec2 and
> >>>>>> azure). The PR should happen pretty soon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On the provisioning side, I'm testing Karaf and pure Java
> application
> >>>>>> provisioning on Azure and Amazon EC2 for now. It's still in early
> stage
> >>>>>> but promising. I need more time to have a complete and concrete
> proposal
> >>>>>> on that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I keep you posted.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 03/10/2018 10:56, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> >>>>>>> Awesome !
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks guys for the interest ! I think it would be a great new
> feature
> >>>>>>> in jClouds.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So yes, I will definitely keep you posted.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> But first, Karaf 4.2.x and Java8 full support in jclouds-karaf ;)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 10:53, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
> >>>>>>>> This application runtime provisioning concept definitively looks
> >>>>>>>> interesting. I'd love to discuss how it should look like and what
> >>>>>>>> makes sense, so please, keep us posted and share the progress of
> your
> >>>>>>>> PoC and the ideas that may come from it.
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 10:50, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> jb@nanthrax.net>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Andrea,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> For jCloud compute abstraction, I think I can do something
> >>>>> "compliant".
> >>>>>>>>> jClouds and Karaf instance (or even Cellar node) can map indeed.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> For now it's a rough idea, but I will started a PoC on this
> area. I
> >>>>>>>>> think other "application runtime provisioning" support can be
> >>>>> interested
> >>>>>>>>> in jClouds.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Let me start a PoC (I will probably bother you with some
> questions
> >>>>> ;)),
> >>>>>>>>> I keep you posted.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks !
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 09:14, Andrea Turli wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Interesting idea!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> As Andrew I've little knowledge of karaf, how do you think it
> will
> >>>>> fit with
> >>>>>>>>>> the jclouds compute abstraction? To what can you map jclouds
> node
> >>>>> in the
> >>>>>>>>>> karaf world? A Karaf container or a "service" running inside the
> >>>>> karaf
> >>>>>>>>>> container? What's an jclouds image or location in that respect?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Il mer 3 ott 2018, 07:05 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> ha
> >>>>> scritto:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> exactly, you got the idea.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> For instance, it could result to create a AMI on Amazon EC2,
> etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The purpose is exactly what you described:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> - be able to install a Karaf instance on a cloud provider
> >>>>>>>>>>> - control the "cloud Karaf instance" (start, stop, ...)
> >>>>>>>>>>> - expose this instance as a compute service
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It's something I planned in Karaf Cellar, but I think it makes
> more
> >>>>>>>>>>> sense to have in jclouds (and Cellar will leverage jClouds).
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 01:46, Andrew Phillips wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, I was thinking about adding a
> >>>>> Provisioning/Compute
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Service for Karaf. The idea is to easily provision and
> >>>>> bootstrap
> >>>>>>>>>>> Apache
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf runtime (vanilla or custom) on a cloud provider.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> If I understand this correctly, the idea is firstly to use
> >>>>> jclouds to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> install (?) a Karaf runtime on a cloud provider, then expose
> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>> runtime as a compute service in its own right?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> That would be an interesting idea that I don't think has been
> >>>>> tried
> >>>>>>>>>>>> previously - in what sense (question from someone with little
> >>>>> Karaf
> >>>>>>>>>>>> background here) does Karaf fit the model of a cloud compute
> >>>>> service?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> What type of "things" can you provision in Karaf, for example?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ap
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >>>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
Re: [HEADS UP] Update to Apache Karaf 4.2.x & provisioning proposal
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Andrew,
I'm busy today with Karaf 4.2.3 preparation, but I should be able to
provide the jclouds Karaf 4.2.x compliant features this week.
Is it OK ?
Regards
JB
On 28/01/2019 20:13, Andrew Gaul wrote:
> Jean-Baptiste, thanks for working on this. Do you anticipate concluding
> this work soon? It blocks releasing jclouds 2.2.0 with the intended
> Java 8 and Guava changes we would like to release to users.
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 02:21:26PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> the first PR about Karaf 4.2.x support in jclouds is almost done
>> (including itests, new commands, etc).
>>
>> For the second part about provisioning feature, I need to do some
>> cleanup on the PoC before starting a concrete discussion.
>>
>> I keep you posted asap !
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 20/11/2018 06:17, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>> Hi Ignasi,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reminder ;)
>>>
>>> I did some improvements in Karaf 4.2.2-SNAPSHOT to speed up jclouds and
>>> the "provisioning" feature we discussed.
>>>
>>> First PR (just Karaf 4.2.x update) is almost done, I will submit it soon
>>> (tomorrow or the day after probably).
>>>
>>> For the "provisioning" proposal, I'm still have work to do but it's on
>>> the right way to be discussed.
>>>
>>> Sorry for the delay, but it's coming ;)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>> On 19/11/2018 23:01, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
>>>> Just a friendly reminder :)
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 at 09:59, Ignasi Barrera <na...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nice! Look forward to discussing that proposal :)
>>>>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 18:36, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just a quick update about that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I fixed the issue I had on the commands (updated with new Karaf 4.x
>>>>>> annotation). I'm adding features verify and itests, I would also like to
>>>>>> test compute service and blobstore on a couple of providers (ec2 and
>>>>>> azure). The PR should happen pretty soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the provisioning side, I'm testing Karaf and pure Java application
>>>>>> provisioning on Azure and Amazon EC2 for now. It's still in early stage
>>>>>> but promising. I need more time to have a complete and concrete proposal
>>>>>> on that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I keep you posted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 10:56, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>>>>> Awesome !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks guys for the interest ! I think it would be a great new feature
>>>>>>> in jClouds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So yes, I will definitely keep you posted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But first, Karaf 4.2.x and Java8 full support in jclouds-karaf ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 10:53, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
>>>>>>>> This application runtime provisioning concept definitively looks
>>>>>>>> interesting. I'd love to discuss how it should look like and what
>>>>>>>> makes sense, so please, keep us posted and share the progress of your
>>>>>>>> PoC and the ideas that may come from it.
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 10:50, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrea,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For jCloud compute abstraction, I think I can do something
>>>>> "compliant".
>>>>>>>>> jClouds and Karaf instance (or even Cellar node) can map indeed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For now it's a rough idea, but I will started a PoC on this area. I
>>>>>>>>> think other "application runtime provisioning" support can be
>>>>> interested
>>>>>>>>> in jClouds.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let me start a PoC (I will probably bother you with some questions
>>>>> ;)),
>>>>>>>>> I keep you posted.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 09:14, Andrea Turli wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Interesting idea!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As Andrew I've little knowledge of karaf, how do you think it will
>>>>> fit with
>>>>>>>>>> the jclouds compute abstraction? To what can you map jclouds node
>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>> karaf world? A Karaf container or a "service" running inside the
>>>>> karaf
>>>>>>>>>> container? What's an jclouds image or location in that respect?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Il mer 3 ott 2018, 07:05 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> ha
>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> exactly, you got the idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For instance, it could result to create a AMI on Amazon EC2, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The purpose is exactly what you described:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - be able to install a Karaf instance on a cloud provider
>>>>>>>>>>> - control the "cloud Karaf instance" (start, stop, ...)
>>>>>>>>>>> - expose this instance as a compute service
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's something I planned in Karaf Cellar, but I think it makes more
>>>>>>>>>>> sense to have in jclouds (and Cellar will leverage jClouds).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 01:46, Andrew Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, I was thinking about adding a
>>>>> Provisioning/Compute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Service for Karaf. The idea is to easily provision and
>>>>> bootstrap
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf runtime (vanilla or custom) on a cloud provider.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If I understand this correctly, the idea is firstly to use
>>>>> jclouds to
>>>>>>>>>>>> install (?) a Karaf runtime on a cloud provider, then expose that
>>>>>>>>>>>> runtime as a compute service in its own right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That would be an interesting idea that I don't think has been
>>>>> tried
>>>>>>>>>>>> previously - in what sense (question from someone with little
>>>>> Karaf
>>>>>>>>>>>> background here) does Karaf fit the model of a cloud compute
>>>>> service?
>>>>>>>>>>>> What type of "things" can you provision in Karaf, for example?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ap
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [HEADS UP] Update to Apache Karaf 4.2.x & provisioning proposal
Posted by Andrew Gaul <ga...@apache.org>.
Jean-Baptiste, thanks for working on this. Do you anticipate concluding
this work soon? It blocks releasing jclouds 2.2.0 with the intended
Java 8 and Guava changes we would like to release to users.
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 02:21:26PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> the first PR about Karaf 4.2.x support in jclouds is almost done
> (including itests, new commands, etc).
>
> For the second part about provisioning feature, I need to do some
> cleanup on the PoC before starting a concrete discussion.
>
> I keep you posted asap !
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 20/11/2018 06:17, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> > Hi Ignasi,
> >
> > Thanks for the reminder ;)
> >
> > I did some improvements in Karaf 4.2.2-SNAPSHOT to speed up jclouds and
> > the "provisioning" feature we discussed.
> >
> > First PR (just Karaf 4.2.x update) is almost done, I will submit it soon
> > (tomorrow or the day after probably).
> >
> > For the "provisioning" proposal, I'm still have work to do but it's on
> > the right way to be discussed.
> >
> > Sorry for the delay, but it's coming ;)
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On 19/11/2018 23:01, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
> >> Just a friendly reminder :)
> >>
> >> On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 at 09:59, Ignasi Barrera <na...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Nice! Look forward to discussing that proposal :)
> >>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 18:36, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>
> >>>> just a quick update about that.
> >>>>
> >>>> I fixed the issue I had on the commands (updated with new Karaf 4.x
> >>>> annotation). I'm adding features verify and itests, I would also like to
> >>>> test compute service and blobstore on a couple of providers (ec2 and
> >>>> azure). The PR should happen pretty soon.
> >>>>
> >>>> On the provisioning side, I'm testing Karaf and pure Java application
> >>>> provisioning on Azure and Amazon EC2 for now. It's still in early stage
> >>>> but promising. I need more time to have a complete and concrete proposal
> >>>> on that.
> >>>>
> >>>> I keep you posted.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> JB
> >>>>
> >>>> On 03/10/2018 10:56, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> >>>>> Awesome !
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks guys for the interest ! I think it would be a great new feature
> >>>>> in jClouds.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So yes, I will definitely keep you posted.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But first, Karaf 4.2.x and Java8 full support in jclouds-karaf ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>> JB
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 03/10/2018 10:53, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
> >>>>>> This application runtime provisioning concept definitively looks
> >>>>>> interesting. I'd love to discuss how it should look like and what
> >>>>>> makes sense, so please, keep us posted and share the progress of your
> >>>>>> PoC and the ideas that may come from it.
> >>>>>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 10:50, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Andrea,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> For jCloud compute abstraction, I think I can do something
> >>> "compliant".
> >>>>>>> jClouds and Karaf instance (or even Cellar node) can map indeed.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> For now it's a rough idea, but I will started a PoC on this area. I
> >>>>>>> think other "application runtime provisioning" support can be
> >>> interested
> >>>>>>> in jClouds.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Let me start a PoC (I will probably bother you with some questions
> >>> ;)),
> >>>>>>> I keep you posted.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks !
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 09:14, Andrea Turli wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Interesting idea!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As Andrew I've little knowledge of karaf, how do you think it will
> >>> fit with
> >>>>>>>> the jclouds compute abstraction? To what can you map jclouds node
> >>> in the
> >>>>>>>> karaf world? A Karaf container or a "service" running inside the
> >>> karaf
> >>>>>>>> container? What's an jclouds image or location in that respect?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Il mer 3 ott 2018, 07:05 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> ha
> >>> scritto:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> exactly, you got the idea.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> For instance, it could result to create a AMI on Amazon EC2, etc.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The purpose is exactly what you described:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> - be able to install a Karaf instance on a cloud provider
> >>>>>>>>> - control the "cloud Karaf instance" (start, stop, ...)
> >>>>>>>>> - expose this instance as a compute service
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It's something I planned in Karaf Cellar, but I think it makes more
> >>>>>>>>> sense to have in jclouds (and Cellar will leverage jClouds).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 01:46, Andrew Phillips wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, I was thinking about adding a
> >>> Provisioning/Compute
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Service for Karaf. The idea is to easily provision and
> >>> bootstrap
> >>>>>>>>> Apache
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf runtime (vanilla or custom) on a cloud provider.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If I understand this correctly, the idea is firstly to use
> >>> jclouds to
> >>>>>>>>>> install (?) a Karaf runtime on a cloud provider, then expose that
> >>>>>>>>>> runtime as a compute service in its own right?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> That would be an interesting idea that I don't think has been
> >>> tried
> >>>>>>>>>> previously - in what sense (question from someone with little
> >>> Karaf
> >>>>>>>>>> background here) does Karaf fit the model of a cloud compute
> >>> service?
> >>>>>>>>>> What type of "things" can you provision in Karaf, for example?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ap
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
> >>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
--
Andrew Gaul
http://gaul.org/
Re: [HEADS UP] Update to Apache Karaf 4.2.x & provisioning proposal
Posted by Andrew Phillips <ap...@qrmedia.com>.
> For the second part about provisioning feature, I need to do some
> cleanup on the PoC before starting a concrete discussion.
Thanks for the update - looking forward to hearing more about these
ideas!
Regards
ap
Re: [HEADS UP] Update to Apache Karaf 4.2.x & provisioning proposal
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi guys,
the first PR about Karaf 4.2.x support in jclouds is almost done
(including itests, new commands, etc).
For the second part about provisioning feature, I need to do some
cleanup on the PoC before starting a concrete discussion.
I keep you posted asap !
Regards
JB
On 20/11/2018 06:17, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> Hi Ignasi,
>
> Thanks for the reminder ;)
>
> I did some improvements in Karaf 4.2.2-SNAPSHOT to speed up jclouds and
> the "provisioning" feature we discussed.
>
> First PR (just Karaf 4.2.x update) is almost done, I will submit it soon
> (tomorrow or the day after probably).
>
> For the "provisioning" proposal, I'm still have work to do but it's on
> the right way to be discussed.
>
> Sorry for the delay, but it's coming ;)
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 19/11/2018 23:01, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
>> Just a friendly reminder :)
>>
>> On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 at 09:59, Ignasi Barrera <na...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice! Look forward to discussing that proposal :)
>>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 18:36, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> just a quick update about that.
>>>>
>>>> I fixed the issue I had on the commands (updated with new Karaf 4.x
>>>> annotation). I'm adding features verify and itests, I would also like to
>>>> test compute service and blobstore on a couple of providers (ec2 and
>>>> azure). The PR should happen pretty soon.
>>>>
>>>> On the provisioning side, I'm testing Karaf and pure Java application
>>>> provisioning on Azure and Amazon EC2 for now. It's still in early stage
>>>> but promising. I need more time to have a complete and concrete proposal
>>>> on that.
>>>>
>>>> I keep you posted.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>> On 03/10/2018 10:56, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>>> Awesome !
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks guys for the interest ! I think it would be a great new feature
>>>>> in jClouds.
>>>>>
>>>>> So yes, I will definitely keep you posted.
>>>>>
>>>>> But first, Karaf 4.2.x and Java8 full support in jclouds-karaf ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>>
>>>>> On 03/10/2018 10:53, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
>>>>>> This application runtime provisioning concept definitively looks
>>>>>> interesting. I'd love to discuss how it should look like and what
>>>>>> makes sense, so please, keep us posted and share the progress of your
>>>>>> PoC and the ideas that may come from it.
>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 10:50, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Andrea,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For jCloud compute abstraction, I think I can do something
>>> "compliant".
>>>>>>> jClouds and Karaf instance (or even Cellar node) can map indeed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For now it's a rough idea, but I will started a PoC on this area. I
>>>>>>> think other "application runtime provisioning" support can be
>>> interested
>>>>>>> in jClouds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me start a PoC (I will probably bother you with some questions
>>> ;)),
>>>>>>> I keep you posted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 09:14, Andrea Turli wrote:
>>>>>>>> Interesting idea!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As Andrew I've little knowledge of karaf, how do you think it will
>>> fit with
>>>>>>>> the jclouds compute abstraction? To what can you map jclouds node
>>> in the
>>>>>>>> karaf world? A Karaf container or a "service" running inside the
>>> karaf
>>>>>>>> container? What's an jclouds image or location in that respect?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Il mer 3 ott 2018, 07:05 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> ha
>>> scritto:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> exactly, you got the idea.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For instance, it could result to create a AMI on Amazon EC2, etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The purpose is exactly what you described:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - be able to install a Karaf instance on a cloud provider
>>>>>>>>> - control the "cloud Karaf instance" (start, stop, ...)
>>>>>>>>> - expose this instance as a compute service
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's something I planned in Karaf Cellar, but I think it makes more
>>>>>>>>> sense to have in jclouds (and Cellar will leverage jClouds).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 01:46, Andrew Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, I was thinking about adding a
>>> Provisioning/Compute
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Service for Karaf. The idea is to easily provision and
>>> bootstrap
>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf runtime (vanilla or custom) on a cloud provider.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If I understand this correctly, the idea is firstly to use
>>> jclouds to
>>>>>>>>>> install (?) a Karaf runtime on a cloud provider, then expose that
>>>>>>>>>> runtime as a compute service in its own right?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That would be an interesting idea that I don't think has been
>>> tried
>>>>>>>>>> previously - in what sense (question from someone with little
>>> Karaf
>>>>>>>>>> background here) does Karaf fit the model of a cloud compute
>>> service?
>>>>>>>>>> What type of "things" can you provision in Karaf, for example?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ap
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [HEADS UP] Update to Apache Karaf 4.2.x & provisioning proposal
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Ignasi,
Thanks for the reminder ;)
I did some improvements in Karaf 4.2.2-SNAPSHOT to speed up jclouds and
the "provisioning" feature we discussed.
First PR (just Karaf 4.2.x update) is almost done, I will submit it soon
(tomorrow or the day after probably).
For the "provisioning" proposal, I'm still have work to do but it's on
the right way to be discussed.
Sorry for the delay, but it's coming ;)
Regards
JB
On 19/11/2018 23:01, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
> Just a friendly reminder :)
>
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 at 09:59, Ignasi Barrera <na...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Nice! Look forward to discussing that proposal :)
>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 18:36, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> just a quick update about that.
>>>
>>> I fixed the issue I had on the commands (updated with new Karaf 4.x
>>> annotation). I'm adding features verify and itests, I would also like to
>>> test compute service and blobstore on a couple of providers (ec2 and
>>> azure). The PR should happen pretty soon.
>>>
>>> On the provisioning side, I'm testing Karaf and pure Java application
>>> provisioning on Azure and Amazon EC2 for now. It's still in early stage
>>> but promising. I need more time to have a complete and concrete proposal
>>> on that.
>>>
>>> I keep you posted.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>> On 03/10/2018 10:56, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>>>> Awesome !
>>>>
>>>> Thanks guys for the interest ! I think it would be a great new feature
>>>> in jClouds.
>>>>
>>>> So yes, I will definitely keep you posted.
>>>>
>>>> But first, Karaf 4.2.x and Java8 full support in jclouds-karaf ;)
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>> On 03/10/2018 10:53, Ignasi Barrera wrote:
>>>>> This application runtime provisioning concept definitively looks
>>>>> interesting. I'd love to discuss how it should look like and what
>>>>> makes sense, so please, keep us posted and share the progress of your
>>>>> PoC and the ideas that may come from it.
>>>>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 10:50, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Andrea,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For jCloud compute abstraction, I think I can do something
>> "compliant".
>>>>>> jClouds and Karaf instance (or even Cellar node) can map indeed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For now it's a rough idea, but I will started a PoC on this area. I
>>>>>> think other "application runtime provisioning" support can be
>> interested
>>>>>> in jClouds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me start a PoC (I will probably bother you with some questions
>> ;)),
>>>>>> I keep you posted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 09:14, Andrea Turli wrote:
>>>>>>> Interesting idea!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As Andrew I've little knowledge of karaf, how do you think it will
>> fit with
>>>>>>> the jclouds compute abstraction? To what can you map jclouds node
>> in the
>>>>>>> karaf world? A Karaf container or a "service" running inside the
>> karaf
>>>>>>> container? What's an jclouds image or location in that respect?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Il mer 3 ott 2018, 07:05 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> ha
>> scritto:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> exactly, you got the idea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For instance, it could result to create a AMI on Amazon EC2, etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The purpose is exactly what you described:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - be able to install a Karaf instance on a cloud provider
>>>>>>>> - control the "cloud Karaf instance" (start, stop, ...)
>>>>>>>> - expose this instance as a compute service
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's something I planned in Karaf Cellar, but I think it makes more
>>>>>>>> sense to have in jclouds (and Cellar will leverage jClouds).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 03/10/2018 01:46, Andrew Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, I was thinking about adding a
>> Provisioning/Compute
>>>>>>>>>>>> Service for Karaf. The idea is to easily provision and
>> bootstrap
>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>> Karaf runtime (vanilla or custom) on a cloud provider.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If I understand this correctly, the idea is firstly to use
>> jclouds to
>>>>>>>>> install (?) a Karaf runtime on a cloud provider, then expose that
>>>>>>>>> runtime as a compute service in its own right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That would be an interesting idea that I don't think has been
>> tried
>>>>>>>>> previously - in what sense (question from someone with little
>> Karaf
>>>>>>>>> background here) does Karaf fit the model of a cloud compute
>> service?
>>>>>>>>> What type of "things" can you provision in Karaf, for example?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ap
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>
>>
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Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com