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Posted to derby-dev@db.apache.org by Amit Handa <Am...@Sun.COM> on 2005/03/24 10:19:38 UTC

Adding framework scripts to bundle

Hi,

Can we add framework scripts like startNetworkto bundle available for 
download ?

The bundles only packages the  derby jars, adding these scripts can be a 
useful thing for developers.

Is there a plan to do so ?

thanks,
Amit


Re: Adding framework scripts to bundle

Posted by Andrew McIntyre <mc...@gmail.com>.
On Mar 27, 2005, at 10:19 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:

> Apache Tomcat also uses something but I don't recall what it is - 
> might be worth checking out.

Yes, that would be worth checking out, since it even has its own 
jakarta commons project:

http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/daemon/

:-)

andrew


Re: Adding framework scripts to bundle

Posted by Jeremy Boynes <jb...@apache.org>.
Apache Tomcat also uses something but I don't recall what it is - might 
be worth checking out.

--
Jeremy


Andrew McIntyre wrote:
> 
> On Mar 27, 2005, at 7:39 PM, Amit Handa wrote:
> 
>> 1. Adding derby sripts to derby bundles
> 
> 
> There is already a JIRA entry for this: 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-55
> 
>> 2. Starting derby network server as a service
> 
> 
> If you would like to see this functionality added, please add a JIRA 
> entry for it.  The easiest way to do this would be to provide a registry 
> key file for Derby Network Server and provide instructions on how to 
> install it as a Windows service using instsrv and srvany. However, we 
> obviously can't redistribute those two utilities, but it would be nice 
> to provide all the parts to the solution. So, a little searching turned 
> up this public domain srvany replacement:
> 
> http://iain.cx/src/nssm/
> 
> I haven't tried it, but I suggest trying it out to see how well it works.
> 
> Cheers,
> andrew
> 


Re: Adding framework scripts to bundle

Posted by Andrew McIntyre <mc...@gmail.com>.
On Mar 27, 2005, at 7:39 PM, Amit Handa wrote:

> 1. Adding derby sripts to derby bundles

There is already a JIRA entry for this: 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-55

> 2. Starting derby network server as a service

If you would like to see this functionality added, please add a JIRA 
entry for it.  The easiest way to do this would be to provide a 
registry key file for Derby Network Server and provide instructions on 
how to install it as a Windows service using instsrv and srvany. 
However, we obviously can't redistribute those two utilities, but it 
would be nice to provide all the parts to the solution. So, a little 
searching turned up this public domain srvany replacement:

http://iain.cx/src/nssm/

I haven't tried it, but I suggest trying it out to see how well it 
works.

Cheers,
andrew


Re: Adding framework scripts to bundle

Posted by Amit Handa <Am...@Sun.COM>.
Yes that would be a good idea.

I will look at two things
1. Adding derby sripts to derby bundles
2. Starting derby network server as a service

Do we need a Jira for this ?

thanks,
Amit

Satheesh Bandaram wrote:

>I also think they are useful. Some of these scripts are present in the
>derby source download, though they could be improved. It would be nice
>to be able to start Derby Network server as a service in Windows, for
>example. Any volunteers? :-)
>
>Satheesh
>
>Amit Handa wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Can we add framework scripts like startNetworkto bundle available for
>>download ?
>>
>>The bundles only packages the  derby jars, adding these scripts can be
>>a useful thing for developers.
>>
>>Is there a plan to do so ?
>>
>>thanks,
>>Amit
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>


snapshots posted on the website (was Re: Adding framework scripts to bundle)

Posted by Andrew McIntyre <mc...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:23:07 -0800, Satheesh Bandaram
<sa...@sourcery.org> wrote:
> I also think they are useful. Some of these scripts are present in the
> derby source download, though they could be improved. It would be nice
> to be able to start Derby Network server as a service in Windows, for
> example. Any volunteers? :-)

Actually, I've been planning on putting together an updated snapshot
for a couple of weeks now, one that includes the frameworks scripts
and the demos as well. Also, once I've had a chance to check in the
recent fix for the Eclipse plugin, the Eclipse plugin that is
currently posted should probably be updated as well. So, it seems
there is good reason all around to update the snapshots we have
available on the web.

But, see also here: 

http://mail-archives.eu.apache.org/mod_mbox/db-derby-dev/200502.mbox/%3c421CFA7C.4070500@Golux.Com%3e
and here:
http://mail-archives.eu.apache.org/mod_mbox/db-derby-dev/200502.mbox/%3c421F1D56.8000302@sbcglobal.net%3e

So maybe we should be putting a little more thought into what goes
into these snapshots. Perhaps we should be bumping the fourth part of
the version after each bug fix that goes in. Does that mean that we
need to go through the full release process each time? Or, since we
know that there has been such small, well-known sets of changes going
into the branches, is it maybe possible to do a more lightweight
release process for these small bug fix releases? It would require a
little more effort in documenting the changes and keeping the related
documentation in the branch (CHANGES, etc.) up to date, but it's worth
the effort, and I would be willing to help out with that.

Anyway, I'm planning on merging the demo changes from the trunk over
to the branch shortly and I would also like to get a new snapshot
posted and I will be glad to help out with whatever work is involved
to do that. But, I'm not sure that we should just throw another
snapshot up on the website. There are clearly some issues with
versioning and being able to differentiate between snapshots that
should be discussed, so if anyone has any comments, concerns, or
suggestions about a better process for posting snapshots to the
website, please post them.

Thanks,
andrew

Re: Adding framework scripts to bundle

Posted by Satheesh Bandaram <sa...@Sourcery.Org>.
I also think they are useful. Some of these scripts are present in the
derby source download, though they could be improved. It would be nice
to be able to start Derby Network server as a service in Windows, for
example. Any volunteers? :-)

Satheesh

Amit Handa wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Can we add framework scripts like startNetworkto bundle available for
> download ?
>
> The bundles only packages the  derby jars, adding these scripts can be
> a useful thing for developers.
>
> Is there a plan to do so ?
>
> thanks,
> Amit
>
>
>