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Posted to solr-user@lucene.apache.org by Nagendra Nagarajayya <nn...@transaxtions.com> on 2012/11/01 15:26:12 UTC

Re: [Announce] Apache Solr 4.0 with RankingAlgorithm 1.4.4 and Realtime NRT available for download

I have renamed Realtime NRT to Realtime-search 
<http://solr-ra.tgels.org/realtime-nrt.jsp> now. Thanks for the feedback.

Regards,

Nagendra Nagarajayya
http://solr-ra.tgels.org
http://rankingalgorithm.tgels.org


On 10/30/2012 9:09 AM, Michael Della Bitta wrote:
> Happy to help!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Della Bitta
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> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Nagendra Nagarajayya
> <nn...@transaxtions.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Michael for the feedback. Will take a look at this ...
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Nagendra Nagarajayya
>> http://solr-ra.tgels.org
>> http://rankingalgorithm.tgels.org
>>
>>
>> On 10/29/2012 9:17 AM, Michael Della Bitta wrote:
>>> As an external observer, I think the main problem is your branding.
>>> "Realtime Near Realtime" is definitely an oxymoron, and your ranking
>>> algorithm is called "Ranking Algorithm," which is generic enough to
>>> suggest that a. it's the only ranking algorithm available, and b. by
>>> implication, that Solr doesn't have one built in.
>>>
>>> I would suggest two improvements:
>>>
>>> 1. Come up with a top-level name for your overall efforts. Apache
>>> Foundation has 'Apache,' so automatic branding of every component they
>>> build. Then your ranking algorithm could be called "Tgels Ranking
>>> Algorithm for Apache Solr" (for example), which is totally legit. And
>>> "Tgels Realtime Search for Apache Solr."
>>>
>>> 2. Maybe point out that you're building on top of the work of the
>>> Apache Solr and Lucene projects a little more prominently.
>>>
>>> I think with those two little tweaks, you'd actually very easily get
>>> more people interested in your contributions.
>>>
>>> Just my two cents,
>>>
>>> Michael Della Bitta
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>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Nagendra Nagarajayya
>>> <nn...@transaxtions.com> wrote:
>>>> Jack:
>>>>
>>>> I respect your hard-work responding to user problems on the mail list. So
>>>> it
>>>> would be nicer to try out Realtime NRT then pass rogue comments, whether
>>>> a
>>>> contribution is legit/spam or a scam... I guess it illuminates the narrow
>>>> minded view of oneself ...  The spirit of open source is contributions
>>>> from
>>>> not only commiters but other developers, from the Solr wiki "A half-baked
>>>> patch in Jira, with no documentation, no tests and no backwards
>>>> compatibility is better than no patch at all."
>>>>
>>>> You would gain more respect if you actually download realtime-nrt, check
>>>> out
>>>> if it does provide a view of a realtime index compared to a
>>>> point-in-time
>>>> snapshot, see if you can understand the code and provide clarity  and
>>>> feedback to the list if you do find problems with it. realtime-nrt offers
>>>> search capability as to realtime-get. Checkout if  this is true ... I
>>>> would
>>>> really welcome your comments on the list or through the JIRA here:
>>>>
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3816
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Nagendra Nagarajayya
>>>> http://solr-ra.tgels.org
>>>> http://rankingalgorithm.tgels.org
>>>>
>>>> On 10/29/2012 7:30 AM, Jack Krupansky wrote:
>>>>> Could any of the committers here confirm whether this is a legitimate
>>>>> effort? I mean, how could anything labeled "Apache ABC with XYZ" be an
>>>>> "external project" and be sanctioned/licensed by Apache? In fact, the
>>>>> linked
>>>>> web page doesn't even acknowledge the ownership of the Apache trademarks
>>>>> or
>>>>> ASL. And the term "Realtime NRT" is nonsensical. Even worse: "Realtime
>>>>> NRT
>>>>> makes available a near realtime view". Equally nonsensical. Who knows,
>>>>> maybe
>>>>> it is legit, but it sure comes across as a scam/spam.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Jack Krupansky
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Nagendra Nagarajayya
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 10:06 AM
>>>>> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: [Announce] Apache Solr 4.0 with RankingAlgorithm 1.4.4 and
>>>>> Realtime NRT available for download
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>> I am very excited to announce the availability of Apache Solr 4.0 with
>>>>> RankingAlgorithm 1.4.4 and Realtime NRT. Realtime NRT is a high
>>>>> performance and more granular NRT implementation as to soft commit. The
>>>>> update performance is about 70,000 documents / sec* (almost 1.5-2x
>>>>> performance improvement over soft-commit). You can also scale up to 2
>>>>> billion documents* in a single core, and query half a billion documents
>>>>> index in ms**. Realtime NRT is different from realtime-get. realtime-get
>>>>> does not have search capability and is a lookup by id. Realtime NRT
>>>>> allows full search, see here <http://solr-ra.tgels.org/realtime-nrt.jsp>
>>>>> for more info.
>>>>>
>>>>> Realtime NRT has been contributed back to Solr, see JIRA:
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3816
>>>>>
>>>>> RankingAlgorithm 1.4.4 supports the entire Lucene Query Syntax, ą and/or
>>>>> boolean/dismax/boost queries and is compatible with the new Lucene 4.0
>>>>> api.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can get more information about Solr 4.0 with RankingAlgorithm 1.4.4
>>>>> and Realtime NRT performance from here:
>>>>> http://solr-ra.tgels.org/wiki/en/Near_Real_Time_Search_ver_4.x
>>>>>
>>>>> You can download Solr 4.0 with RankingAlgorithm 1.4.4 from here:
>>>>> http://solr-ra.tgels.org
>>>>>
>>>>> Please download and give the new version a try.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note:
>>>>> 1. Apache Solr 4.0 with RankingAlgorithm 1.4.4 is an external project
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nagendra Nagarajayya
>>>>> http://solr-ra.tgels.org
>>>>> http://rankingalgorithm.tgels.org
>>>>>
>>>>> * performance is a real use case of Apache Solr with RankingAlgorithm as
>>>>> seen at a user installation
>>>>> ** performance seen when using the age feature
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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