Opinion about order items cancellation and update processes

[Rashko Rejmer <rr...@iguanait.com>]

Hi,

I wanted to ask the community about an opinion regarding the way order
item cancellation and update are currently implemented. 

There are differences between these two processes.

Order update: Shopping cart is recreated from the order, then
appropriate changes are made and the cart is stored again.

Order item cancellation is implemented in shorter way, that IMO is
little bit incorrect. For example if you cancel only part of an order
item, then all corresponding item adjustments(tax, promotion) are not
recalculated. They are created balancing order header adjustments for
the difference between the previous and new order adjustment amounts. In
this thread was proposed not to create balancing adjustments when
cancelling order items: http://markmail.org/message/3yv6etafkqo6fuu2
I think that this shorter implementation was considered and implemented
because of the problem with inventory reservations, but IMO in the
current implementation inventory reservations are not created in a right
way also. E.g if you create order that include promotional order items
during order item cancellation all promotional order items are
cancelled(with their inventory reservation) and the system creates new
promotional items if applicable. In many situations they are created
unique promotional items, but with new inventory reservations.

I will be very glad if someone can confirm that and propose an idea how
these processes(order items cancellation and update) should be
implemented in a proper way.

Regards,
Rashko Rejmer

Re: Opinion about order items cancellation and update processes

[Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>]

Rashko,

I must admit I have no time to look at this before Thursday 24. But this is something really important, and we can't escape too long 
to fix it. So I will have a serious look at it next week.

I already have done some specific fixes, or rather workarounds, on this topic (notably to be able to show only  gross prices in 
backoffice) but did never decide to tackle it completly.

In my opinion there are 2 ways to face it : reverse engineering or complete study from scratch (diagram, scenarios, use cases, 
etc.). I think we should better take the first solution to avoid to miss some points already present in code.

If someone has a string opinion about that, please chime in...

Thanks

Jacques

From: "Rashko Rejmer" <rr...@iguanait.com>
> Hi Jacques,
>
> Thanks for the reply. If you are referring to this particular problem:
>
>>>From http://markmail.org/message/3yv6etafkqo6fuu2
> "The second problem is that order item editing does not follow this
> pattern. For example if you cancel one order item and then edit the
> price of another order item, then tax adjustments of the previously
> cancelled order item(first one) are removed, It is removed also the
> order header tax adjustment."
>
> it is still present. I really want to solve it, but I am kind of
> confused, because order item cancellation and editing processes behave
> in completely different way. It is not possible to use these 2
> functionalities together(on one order), because the results are
> unpredictable. I applied a patch for some of the issues here:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1866 , but the main problem
> is still there.
> I think that editing and cancellation of order items are close processes
> and they should be unified, or at least changed in such a way that they
> do not act against each other.
>
> Any suggestions and comments are really welcome. Thanks again!
>
> Regards,
> Rashko Rejmer
>
> On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 13:00 +0200, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> Hi Rashko,
>>
>> Just to be sure to follow, has the problem exposed at the end of
>> http://markmail.org/message/3yv6etafkqo6fuu2 already been fixed ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jacques
> 

Re: Opinion about order items cancellation and update processes

[Rashko Rejmer <rr...@iguanait.com>]

Hi Jacques,

Thanks for the reply. If you are referring to this particular problem:

>>From http://markmail.org/message/3yv6etafkqo6fuu2
"The second problem is that order item editing does not follow this
pattern. For example if you cancel one order item and then edit the
price of another order item, then tax adjustments of the previously
cancelled order item(first one) are removed, It is removed also the
order header tax adjustment."

it is still present. I really want to solve it, but I am kind of
confused, because order item cancellation and editing processes behave
in completely different way. It is not possible to use these 2
functionalities together(on one order), because the results are
unpredictable. I applied a patch for some of the issues here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1866 , but the main problem
is still there.
I think that editing and cancellation of order items are close processes
and they should be unified, or at least changed in such a way that they
do not act against each other. 

Any suggestions and comments are really welcome. Thanks again!

Regards,
Rashko Rejmer

On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 13:00 +0200, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Hi Rashko,
> 
> Just to be sure to follow, has the problem exposed at the end of
> http://markmail.org/message/3yv6etafkqo6fuu2 already been fixed ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jacques

Re: Opinion about order items cancellation and update processes

[Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>]

Hi Rashko,

Just to be sure to follow, has the problem exposed at the end of http://markmail.org/message/3yv6etafkqo6fuu2 already been fixed ?

Thanks

Jacques

From: "Rashko Rejmer" <rr...@iguanait.com>
> Hi,
> 
> I wanted to ask the community about an opinion regarding the way order
> item cancellation and update are currently implemented. 
> 
> There are differences between these two processes.
> 
> Order update: Shopping cart is recreated from the order, then
> appropriate changes are made and the cart is stored again.
> 
> Order item cancellation is implemented in shorter way, that IMO is
> little bit incorrect. For example if you cancel only part of an order
> item, then all corresponding item adjustments(tax, promotion) are not
> recalculated. They are created balancing order header adjustments for
> the difference between the previous and new order adjustment amounts. In
> this thread was proposed not to create balancing adjustments when
> cancelling order items: http://markmail.org/message/3yv6etafkqo6fuu2
> I think that this shorter implementation was considered and implemented
> because of the problem with inventory reservations, but IMO in the
> current implementation inventory reservations are not created in a right
> way also. E.g if you create order that include promotional order items
> during order item cancellation all promotional order items are
> cancelled(with their inventory reservation) and the system creates new
> promotional items if applicable. In many situations they are created
> unique promotional items, but with new inventory reservations.
> 
> I will be very glad if someone can confirm that and propose an idea how
> these processes(order items cancellation and update) should be
> implemented in a proper way.
> 
> Regards,
> Rashko Rejmer
>