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[jira] Created: (LEGAL-21) Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin
Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin
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Key: LEGAL-21
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-21
Project: Legal Discuss
Issue Type: Question
Reporter: Henri Yandell
David Jencks asks:
* Can we have a Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin? It would allow Roller to run on Geronimo on top of the MySQL database. By default Derby would be used, but this option would allow users to choose MySQL instead. It would use Tranql, which has two classes importing MySQL classes.
o Notes: [WWW] http://www.mysql.com/about/legal/licensing/foss-exception.html & [WWW] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/apr/apr-util/trunk/dbd/apr_dbd_mysql.c
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[jira] Closed: (LEGAL-21) Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin
Posted by "Henri Yandell (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-21?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
Henri Yandell closed LEGAL-21.
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Resolution: Fixed
Resolving. This JIRA item marks the record of the optional/easily removed and clearly marked mysql dependency being fine.
> Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin
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>
> Key: LEGAL-21
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-21
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Henri Yandell
>
> David Jencks asks:
> * Can we have a Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin? It would allow Roller to run on Geronimo on top of the MySQL database. By default Derby would be used, but this option would allow users to choose MySQL instead. It would use Tranql, which has two classes importing MySQL classes.
>
> o Notes: [WWW] http://www.mysql.com/about/legal/licensing/foss-exception.html & [WWW] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/apr/apr-util/trunk/dbd/apr_dbd_mysql.c
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[jira] Commented: (LEGAL-21) Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin
Posted by "Sam Ruby (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-21?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12615483#action_12615483 ]
Sam Ruby commented on LEGAL-21:
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I think the word "depend" in proposed Question a) is too broad. A hard dependency that would be difficult to remove would be controversial, but an fully optional, clearly marked, and easily removed dependency is fine.
I believe that if we want to generalize this to the GPL, we need an abstraction layer, like JDBC, as well as a credible alternative; as the plugin itself may need to be GPL.
> Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin
> ----------------------------
>
> Key: LEGAL-21
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-21
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Henri Yandell
>
> David Jencks asks:
> * Can we have a Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin? It would allow Roller to run on Geronimo on top of the MySQL database. By default Derby would be used, but this option would allow users to choose MySQL instead. It would use Tranql, which has two classes importing MySQL classes.
>
> o Notes: [WWW] http://www.mysql.com/about/legal/licensing/foss-exception.html & [WWW] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/apr/apr-util/trunk/dbd/apr_dbd_mysql.c
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[jira] Commented: (LEGAL-21) Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin
Posted by "Henri Yandell (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-21?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12792811#action_12792811 ]
Henri Yandell commented on LEGAL-21:
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I plan to close this without adding to resolved.html the next time I pass by this issue.
I think we're at the point of not needing to record every item on resolved.html - this JIRA issue happily covers the approval for the dependency.
> Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin
> ----------------------------
>
> Key: LEGAL-21
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-21
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Henri Yandell
>
> David Jencks asks:
> * Can we have a Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin? It would allow Roller to run on Geronimo on top of the MySQL database. By default Derby would be used, but this option would allow users to choose MySQL instead. It would use Tranql, which has two classes importing MySQL classes.
>
> o Notes: [WWW] http://www.mysql.com/about/legal/licensing/foss-exception.html & [WWW] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/apr/apr-util/trunk/dbd/apr_dbd_mysql.c
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[jira] Commented: (LEGAL-21) Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin
Posted by "Henri Yandell (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-21?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12732397#action_12732397 ]
Henri Yandell commented on LEGAL-21:
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Use case was approved (in case there's any doubt). Open question on whether we want text on resolved.html.
> Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin
> ----------------------------
>
> Key: LEGAL-21
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-21
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Henri Yandell
>
> David Jencks asks:
> * Can we have a Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin? It would allow Roller to run on Geronimo on top of the MySQL database. By default Derby would be used, but this option would allow users to choose MySQL instead. It would use Tranql, which has two classes importing MySQL classes.
>
> o Notes: [WWW] http://www.mysql.com/about/legal/licensing/foss-exception.html & [WWW] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/apr/apr-util/trunk/dbd/apr_dbd_mysql.c
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[jira] Commented: (LEGAL-21) Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin
Posted by "Henri Yandell (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-21?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12605842#action_12605842 ]
Henri Yandell commented on LEGAL-21:
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Original thread:
http://markmail.org/message/nwezr3wmzrlneon4
> Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin
> ----------------------------
>
> Key: LEGAL-21
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-21
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Henri Yandell
>
> David Jencks asks:
> * Can we have a Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin? It would allow Roller to run on Geronimo on top of the MySQL database. By default Derby would be used, but this option would allow users to choose MySQL instead. It would use Tranql, which has two classes importing MySQL classes.
>
> o Notes: [WWW] http://www.mysql.com/about/legal/licensing/foss-exception.html & [WWW] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/apr/apr-util/trunk/dbd/apr_dbd_mysql.c
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[jira] Commented: (LEGAL-21) Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin
Posted by "Henri Yandell (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-21?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12615399#action_12615399 ]
Henri Yandell commented on LEGAL-21:
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Agreed that this is a use case we want to allow. Anyone wanting to use this would have already agreed to MySQL, or to supporting MySQL.
This wouldn't include containing the mysql jar in the download, just the linking.
Questions:
a) Do we need to say anything on resolved.html?
"Qn. Can I depend on a MySQL exception licensed work, but not ship it?"
"Ans. Yes"
b) if MySQL was purely GPL, would we be saying the same thing? ie) should we be generalizing to GPL?
> Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin
> ----------------------------
>
> Key: LEGAL-21
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-21
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Henri Yandell
>
> David Jencks asks:
> * Can we have a Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin? It would allow Roller to run on Geronimo on top of the MySQL database. By default Derby would be used, but this option would allow users to choose MySQL instead. It would use Tranql, which has two classes importing MySQL classes.
>
> o Notes: [WWW] http://www.mysql.com/about/legal/licensing/foss-exception.html & [WWW] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/apr/apr-util/trunk/dbd/apr_dbd_mysql.c
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[jira] Commented: (LEGAL-21) Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin
Posted by "Sam Ruby (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-21?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12604721#action_12604721 ]
Sam Ruby commented on LEGAL-21:
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Fully optional, clearly marked, and easily removed? If so, no issue here.
> Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin
> ----------------------------
>
> Key: LEGAL-21
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-21
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Henri Yandell
>
> David Jencks asks:
> * Can we have a Geronimo mysql-roller-plugin? It would allow Roller to run on Geronimo on top of the MySQL database. By default Derby would be used, but this option would allow users to choose MySQL instead. It would use Tranql, which has two classes importing MySQL classes.
>
> o Notes: [WWW] http://www.mysql.com/about/legal/licensing/foss-exception.html & [WWW] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/apr/apr-util/trunk/dbd/apr_dbd_mysql.c
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