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Posted to dev@netbeans.apache.org by Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com> on 2019/02/04 08:21:51 UTC

Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Hello,

We never had a proper announcement about the next release manager for
NetBeans 11.

I know that Laszlo mentioned wanting another go at it in his `Feedback:
Release Management of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0` thread.

I also want to do NetBeans 11.

I seem to remember that Junichi Yamamoto(?) also wanted to be the release
manager for NetBeans 9? Perhaps he wants to try it for NetBeans 11?

Anybody else wants to give it a try?

--emi

Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.

On Mon, 4 Feb 2019, 20:12 Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com wrote:

> I just would like to be a RM once more, to do it better and with more
> confidence, than the first time, while I was learning this thing.
>

I did suggest after 9.0 that we have one or two people shadow the main RM.
Partly to learn the processes, partly also to cover if the RM gets tied up
with work, life, etc. Given my own workload over the next month, I'm not
going to volunteer to be RM this time. But I would like to get my head
around it, so would happily shadow the process. Ideally with someone else,
and ideally with Laszlo or Emi as RM.

Best wishes,

Neil

>

Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.

Hi,

Sorry for the late reply ..

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 07:22, Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I really think Neil can do it by himself. And he has 2 other previous RMs
> to ask questions.

No, I can't, for the reason I first said - I've got a big deadline for
a client coming up related to a library I maintain.  So for the next
few weeks I'll have almost no time for NB.

The idea behind shadowing was to expand the pool of people who know
the process / can step in if required.

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 14:44, Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So I put my RM hat on, I'd need a shadow as I'm still planning to travel
> to Europe in March. If Neil wishes he can take the RM hat from me and I
> can be his shadow, whatever.

At the moment, no, but assuming all goes to plan I should have more
free time about the time you need some cover, so hopefully between us
we can manage this! :-)

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.

Dear all,

The Branch is going to be created later today/early tomorrow (in GMT).

We are almost one week behind the schedule. I've spent some time during 
the weekend to check the issues and PRs we are having right now.

I would like to ask for a round (0) to review an merge whatever 
outstanding PRs we can before the branch. I know it is a tedious task 
but really needs to be done.

I did what I could, but I've ended up merging my own trivial PR-s 
without having a review lately to keep this ball rolling.

So I put my RM hat on, I'd need a shadow as I'm still planning to travel 
to Europe in March. If Neil wishes he can take the RM hat from me and I 
can be his shadow, whatever.


On 2/12/19 12:02 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Note that before we can start NetCAT, we need to have (1) a branch, (2) new
> splash screens and other release number changes to the branch, and (3) the
> first candidate.
>
> Neil, can you do 1, I would be happy to take part in 2, and then you do 3?
>
> Or, does someone else, Laszlo who already volunteered, want to do any of
> these tasks?
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:54 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's a way to look at it. Neil, what do you think? Either way would work
>> -- depending on how you feel and your time, i.e., the steps are clear: you
>> need to create a branch and then produce a release (and modify the below if
>> needed):
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:51 AM Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't mind either way, but I don't think somebody needs to 'shadow' a
>>> RM.
>>> Dive right in and do it!
>>>
>>> --emi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 9:41 AM Geertjan Wielenga
>>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or, if we want to start a new thread as suggested here by Emilian, to
>>> vote
>>>> in a release manager, let's do that. However, we need to do something
>>> -- to
>>>> be honest, having a release manager in Laszlo is great since he's done
>>> it
>>>> before, he's enthusiastic, and he's volunteered, and he wanted to do it
>>>> partly because he'd done it before and wanted to get a firmer grasp on
>>> the
>>>> experience before handing it over to someone else. Having Neil shadow
>>> him
>>>> would be great for the next round.
>>>>
>>>> Note also that we're already slipping right now in that we do not have
>>> our
>>>> first voting candidate as scheduled:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+11.0+Schedule
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:30 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
>>>> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, Laszlo volunteered and was happy to take on the task -- Neil
>>>>> volunteered to shadow the release manager. He didn't volunteer to be
>>> the
>>>>> release manager, at all. :-) Let's not push him into a position he
>>> didn't
>>>>> volunteer for. Neil, do you want to be the release manager -- or
>>> should
>>>>> Laszlo do it with you shadowing him? It's up to you, since Laszlo is
>>>> happy
>>>>> to do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gj
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:22 AM Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I really meant that I'm withdrawing my candidacy. In the meantime
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> else came up and I won't have the energy to deal with a NB release
>>> too.
>>>>>> I really think Neil can do it by himself. And he has 2 other previous
>>>> RMs
>>>>>> to ask questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --emi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 5:06 PM Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the release manager and his shadow:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0
>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
>>>>>>> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And, not just producing the release, but also herding cats
>>>> beforehand.
>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
>>>>>>>> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README#ApacheNetBeansReleaseREADME-ProducingaReleaseCandidate
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:04 PM Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Silly question but what are the responsibilities of the Release
>>>>>>> Manager?
>>>>>>>>>> Eric Bresie
>>>>>>>>>> Ebresie@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> On February 5, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM CST, Neil C Smith <
>>>>>>>>>> neilcsmith@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:28, Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>>>>>>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like Emilian is release manager, with Neil as the
>>>> shadow
>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>> manager!
>>>>>>>>>>> Great! Still be good to get another person who wants to learn
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> process in there too - partly prompted by Laszlo's comment
>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> learning while being main RM.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Not to be confused with British politics where the
>>> 'shadow'
>>>>>>>>>> minister is
>>>>>>>>>>>> the opposition minister. :-) )
>>>>>>>>>>> In normal times, maybe. Now it's just everyone opposing
>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>>>> else. I will try not to reflect the current chaos of British
>>>>>> politics
>>>>>>>>>>> in this! :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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AW: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.

Maybe with NetBeans 12 then.



Von: Christian Lenz
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Februar 2019 10:41
An: David Schulz; Geertjan Wielenga; dev
Betreff: AW: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Dave-Signal sounds awesome 😃.

BTW. I would prefer to change the Logo for each major release, as we had it before. That everyone sees everthing is new. My 2 cents.


Cheers

Chris



Von: David Schulz
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Februar 2019 10:37
An: Geertjan Wielenga; dev; Christian Lenz
Betreff: RE: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?


Sure sure, I think we should install a Bat-Signal aka Dave-Signal. 😉

All the best, 
Dave


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From: Geertjan Wielenga
Sent: Dienstag, 12. Februar 2019 23:12
To: dev; Christian Lenz; David Schulz
Subject: Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Hi Chris and David,

Can you provide the same splash screens you already provided, but this time with "Dev" instead of "11.0" for all of them?

Thanks for already having provided the 11.0 splash screens.

Gj

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 3:59 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
@Geertjan, Could you provide two PRs with two splash screens, both of 
them based on master.

1. for master as a "Dev" splash, honestly I'm kind of missing that.

2. for the upcoming release110 branch. I know that the branch does not 
exists yet, but I could re-target the PR once the branch created.

I really hope that we can merge at least about 10 PR-s before doing the 
branch!

On 2/12/19 12:02 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Note that before we can start NetCAT, we need to have (1) a branch, (2) new
> splash screens and other release number changes to the branch, and (3) the
> first candidate.
>
> Neil, can you do 1, I would be happy to take part in 2, and then you do 3?
>
> Or, does someone else, Laszlo who already volunteered, want to do any of
> these tasks?
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:54 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's a way to look at it. Neil, what do you think? Either way would work
>> -- depending on how you feel and your time, i.e., the steps are clear: you
>> need to create a branch and then produce a release (and modify the below if
>> needed):
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:51 AM Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't mind either way, but I don't think somebody needs to 'shadow' a
>>> RM.
>>> Dive right in and do it!
>>>
>>> --emi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 9:41 AM Geertjan Wielenga
>>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or, if we want to start a new thread as suggested here by Emilian, to
>>> vote
>>>> in a release manager, let's do that. However, we need to do something
>>> -- to
>>>> be honest, having a release manager in Laszlo is great since he's done
>>> it
>>>> before, he's enthusiastic, and he's volunteered, and he wanted to do it
>>>> partly because he'd done it before and wanted to get a firmer grasp on
>>> the
>>>> experience before handing it over to someone else. Having Neil shadow
>>> him
>>>> would be great for the next round.
>>>>
>>>> Note also that we're already slipping right now in that we do not have
>>> our
>>>> first voting candidate as scheduled:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+11.0+Schedule
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:30 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
>>>> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, Laszlo volunteered and was happy to take on the task -- Neil
>>>>> volunteered to shadow the release manager. He didn't volunteer to be
>>> the
>>>>> release manager, at all. :-) Let's not push him into a position he
>>> didn't
>>>>> volunteer for. Neil, do you want to be the release manager -- or
>>> should
>>>>> Laszlo do it with you shadowing him? It's up to you, since Laszlo is
>>>> happy
>>>>> to do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gj
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:22 AM Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I really meant that I'm withdrawing my candidacy. In the meantime
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> else came up and I won't have the energy to deal with a NB release
>>> too.
>>>>>> I really think Neil can do it by himself. And he has 2 other previous
>>>> RMs
>>>>>> to ask questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --emi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 5:06 PM Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the release manager and his shadow:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0
>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
>>>>>>> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And, not just producing the release, but also herding cats
>>>> beforehand.
>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
>>>>>>>> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README#ApacheNetBeansReleaseREADME-ProducingaReleaseCandidate
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:04 PM Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Silly question but what are the responsibilities of the Release
>>>>>>> Manager?
>>>>>>>>>> Eric Bresie
>>>>>>>>>> Ebresie@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> On February 5, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM CST, Neil C Smith <
>>>>>>>>>> neilcsmith@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:28, Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>>>>>>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like Emilian is release manager, with Neil as the
>>>> shadow
>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>> manager!
>>>>>>>>>>> Great! Still be good to get another person who wants to learn
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> process in there too - partly prompted by Laszlo's comment
>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> learning while being main RM.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Not to be confused with British politics where the
>>> 'shadow'
>>>>>>>>>> minister is
>>>>>>>>>>>> the opposition minister. :-) )
>>>>>>>>>>> In normal times, maybe. Now it's just everyone opposing
>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>>>> else. I will try not to reflect the current chaos of British
>>>>>> politics
>>>>>>>>>>> in this! :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>>>>>>>>>> dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists,
>>> visit:
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>

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AW: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.

Dave-Signal sounds awesome 😃.

BTW. I would prefer to change the Logo for each major release, as we had it before. That everyone sees everthing is new. My 2 cents.


Cheers

Chris



Von: David Schulz
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Februar 2019 10:37
An: Geertjan Wielenga; dev; Christian Lenz
Betreff: RE: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?


Sure sure, I think we should install a Bat-Signal aka Dave-Signal. 😉

All the best, 
Dave


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From: Geertjan Wielenga
Sent: Dienstag, 12. Februar 2019 23:12
To: dev; Christian Lenz; David Schulz
Subject: Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Hi Chris and David,

Can you provide the same splash screens you already provided, but this time with "Dev" instead of "11.0" for all of them?

Thanks for already having provided the 11.0 splash screens.

Gj

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 3:59 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
@Geertjan, Could you provide two PRs with two splash screens, both of 
them based on master.

1. for master as a "Dev" splash, honestly I'm kind of missing that.

2. for the upcoming release110 branch. I know that the branch does not 
exists yet, but I could re-target the PR once the branch created.

I really hope that we can merge at least about 10 PR-s before doing the 
branch!

On 2/12/19 12:02 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Note that before we can start NetCAT, we need to have (1) a branch, (2) new
> splash screens and other release number changes to the branch, and (3) the
> first candidate.
>
> Neil, can you do 1, I would be happy to take part in 2, and then you do 3?
>
> Or, does someone else, Laszlo who already volunteered, want to do any of
> these tasks?
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:54 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's a way to look at it. Neil, what do you think? Either way would work
>> -- depending on how you feel and your time, i.e., the steps are clear: you
>> need to create a branch and then produce a release (and modify the below if
>> needed):
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:51 AM Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't mind either way, but I don't think somebody needs to 'shadow' a
>>> RM.
>>> Dive right in and do it!
>>>
>>> --emi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 9:41 AM Geertjan Wielenga
>>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or, if we want to start a new thread as suggested here by Emilian, to
>>> vote
>>>> in a release manager, let's do that. However, we need to do something
>>> -- to
>>>> be honest, having a release manager in Laszlo is great since he's done
>>> it
>>>> before, he's enthusiastic, and he's volunteered, and he wanted to do it
>>>> partly because he'd done it before and wanted to get a firmer grasp on
>>> the
>>>> experience before handing it over to someone else. Having Neil shadow
>>> him
>>>> would be great for the next round.
>>>>
>>>> Note also that we're already slipping right now in that we do not have
>>> our
>>>> first voting candidate as scheduled:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+11.0+Schedule
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:30 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
>>>> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, Laszlo volunteered and was happy to take on the task -- Neil
>>>>> volunteered to shadow the release manager. He didn't volunteer to be
>>> the
>>>>> release manager, at all. :-) Let's not push him into a position he
>>> didn't
>>>>> volunteer for. Neil, do you want to be the release manager -- or
>>> should
>>>>> Laszlo do it with you shadowing him? It's up to you, since Laszlo is
>>>> happy
>>>>> to do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gj
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:22 AM Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I really meant that I'm withdrawing my candidacy. In the meantime
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> else came up and I won't have the energy to deal with a NB release
>>> too.
>>>>>> I really think Neil can do it by himself. And he has 2 other previous
>>>> RMs
>>>>>> to ask questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --emi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 5:06 PM Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the release manager and his shadow:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0
>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
>>>>>>> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And, not just producing the release, but also herding cats
>>>> beforehand.
>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
>>>>>>>> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README#ApacheNetBeansReleaseREADME-ProducingaReleaseCandidate
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:04 PM Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Silly question but what are the responsibilities of the Release
>>>>>>> Manager?
>>>>>>>>>> Eric Bresie
>>>>>>>>>> Ebresie@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> On February 5, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM CST, Neil C Smith <
>>>>>>>>>> neilcsmith@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:28, Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>>>>>>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like Emilian is release manager, with Neil as the
>>>> shadow
>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>> manager!
>>>>>>>>>>> Great! Still be good to get another person who wants to learn
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> process in there too - partly prompted by Laszlo's comment
>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> learning while being main RM.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Not to be confused with British politics where the
>>> 'shadow'
>>>>>>>>>> minister is
>>>>>>>>>>>> the opposition minister. :-) )
>>>>>>>>>>> In normal times, maybe. Now it's just everyone opposing
>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>>>> else. I will try not to reflect the current chaos of British
>>>>>> politics
>>>>>>>>>>> in this! :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
>>>>>>>>>> dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
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>>> visit:
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>

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Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.

Hi Chris and David,

Can you provide the same splash screens you already provided, but this time
with "Dev" instead of "11.0" for all of them?

Thanks for already having provided the 11.0 splash screens.

Gj

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 3:59 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> @Geertjan, Could you provide two PRs with two splash screens, both of
> them based on master.
>
> 1. for master as a "Dev" splash, honestly I'm kind of missing that.
>
> 2. for the upcoming release110 branch. I know that the branch does not
> exists yet, but I could re-target the PR once the branch created.
>
> I really hope that we can merge at least about 10 PR-s before doing the
> branch!
>
> On 2/12/19 12:02 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > Note that before we can start NetCAT, we need to have (1) a branch, (2)
> new
> > splash screens and other release number changes to the branch, and (3)
> the
> > first candidate.
> >
> > Neil, can you do 1, I would be happy to take part in 2, and then you do
> 3?
> >
> > Or, does someone else, Laszlo who already volunteered, want to do any of
> > these tasks?
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:54 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
> > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> That's a way to look at it. Neil, what do you think? Either way would
> work
> >> -- depending on how you feel and your time, i.e., the steps are clear:
> you
> >> need to create a branch and then produce a release (and modify the
> below if
> >> needed):
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:51 AM Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I don't mind either way, but I don't think somebody needs to 'shadow' a
> >>> RM.
> >>> Dive right in and do it!
> >>>
> >>> --emi
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 9:41 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> >>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Or, if we want to start a new thread as suggested here by Emilian, to
> >>> vote
> >>>> in a release manager, let's do that. However, we need to do something
> >>> -- to
> >>>> be honest, having a release manager in Laszlo is great since he's done
> >>> it
> >>>> before, he's enthusiastic, and he's volunteered, and he wanted to do
> it
> >>>> partly because he'd done it before and wanted to get a firmer grasp on
> >>> the
> >>>> experience before handing it over to someone else. Having Neil shadow
> >>> him
> >>>> would be great for the next round.
> >>>>
> >>>> Note also that we're already slipping right now in that we do not have
> >>> our
> >>>> first voting candidate as scheduled:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+11.0+Schedule
> >>>> Gj
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:30 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
> >>>> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Well, Laszlo volunteered and was happy to take on the task -- Neil
> >>>>> volunteered to shadow the release manager. He didn't volunteer to be
> >>> the
> >>>>> release manager, at all. :-) Let's not push him into a position he
> >>> didn't
> >>>>> volunteer for. Neil, do you want to be the release manager -- or
> >>> should
> >>>>> Laszlo do it with you shadowing him? It's up to you, since Laszlo is
> >>>> happy
> >>>>> to do it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gj
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:22 AM Emilian Bold <emilian.bold@gmail.com
> >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I really meant that I'm withdrawing my candidacy. In the meantime
> >>>>>> something
> >>>>>> else came up and I won't have the energy to deal with a NB release
> >>> too.
> >>>>>> I really think Neil can do it by himself. And he has 2 other
> previous
> >>>> RMs
> >>>>>> to ask questions.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --emi
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 5:06 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> >>>>>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> For the release manager and his shadow:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0
> >>>>>>> Gj
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
> >>>>>>> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> And, not just producing the release, but also herding cats
> >>>> beforehand.
> >>>>>>> :-)
> >>>>>>>> Gj
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
> >>>>>>>> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README#ApacheNetBeansReleaseREADME-ProducingaReleaseCandidate
> >>>>>>>>> Gj
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:04 PM Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Silly question but what are the responsibilities of the Release
> >>>>>>> Manager?
> >>>>>>>>>> Eric Bresie
> >>>>>>>>>> Ebresie@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>> On February 5, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM CST, Neil C Smith <
> >>>>>>>>>> neilcsmith@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:28, Geertjan Wielenga
> >>>>>>>>>>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like Emilian is release manager, with Neil as the
> >>>> shadow
> >>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>> manager!
> >>>>>>>>>>> Great! Still be good to get another person who wants to learn
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> process in there too - partly prompted by Laszlo's comment
> >>> about
> >>>>>>>>>>> learning while being main RM.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> (Not to be confused with British politics where the
> >>> 'shadow'
> >>>>>>>>>> minister is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the opposition minister. :-) )
> >>>>>>>>>>> In normal times, maybe. Now it's just everyone opposing
> >>> everyone
> >>>>>>>>>>> else. I will try not to reflect the current chaos of British
> >>>>>> politics
> >>>>>>>>>>> in this! :-)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Neil
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
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> >>>>>>>>>> dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
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> >>> visit:
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> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.

@Geertjan, Could you provide two PRs with two splash screens, both of 
them based on master.

1. for master as a "Dev" splash, honestly I'm kind of missing that.

2. for the upcoming release110 branch. I know that the branch does not 
exists yet, but I could re-target the PR once the branch created.

I really hope that we can merge at least about 10 PR-s before doing the 
branch!

On 2/12/19 12:02 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Note that before we can start NetCAT, we need to have (1) a branch, (2) new
> splash screens and other release number changes to the branch, and (3) the
> first candidate.
>
> Neil, can you do 1, I would be happy to take part in 2, and then you do 3?
>
> Or, does someone else, Laszlo who already volunteered, want to do any of
> these tasks?
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:54 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's a way to look at it. Neil, what do you think? Either way would work
>> -- depending on how you feel and your time, i.e., the steps are clear: you
>> need to create a branch and then produce a release (and modify the below if
>> needed):
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:51 AM Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't mind either way, but I don't think somebody needs to 'shadow' a
>>> RM.
>>> Dive right in and do it!
>>>
>>> --emi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 9:41 AM Geertjan Wielenga
>>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or, if we want to start a new thread as suggested here by Emilian, to
>>> vote
>>>> in a release manager, let's do that. However, we need to do something
>>> -- to
>>>> be honest, having a release manager in Laszlo is great since he's done
>>> it
>>>> before, he's enthusiastic, and he's volunteered, and he wanted to do it
>>>> partly because he'd done it before and wanted to get a firmer grasp on
>>> the
>>>> experience before handing it over to someone else. Having Neil shadow
>>> him
>>>> would be great for the next round.
>>>>
>>>> Note also that we're already slipping right now in that we do not have
>>> our
>>>> first voting candidate as scheduled:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+11.0+Schedule
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:30 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
>>>> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, Laszlo volunteered and was happy to take on the task -- Neil
>>>>> volunteered to shadow the release manager. He didn't volunteer to be
>>> the
>>>>> release manager, at all. :-) Let's not push him into a position he
>>> didn't
>>>>> volunteer for. Neil, do you want to be the release manager -- or
>>> should
>>>>> Laszlo do it with you shadowing him? It's up to you, since Laszlo is
>>>> happy
>>>>> to do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gj
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:22 AM Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I really meant that I'm withdrawing my candidacy. In the meantime
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> else came up and I won't have the energy to deal with a NB release
>>> too.
>>>>>> I really think Neil can do it by himself. And he has 2 other previous
>>>> RMs
>>>>>> to ask questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --emi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 5:06 PM Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the release manager and his shadow:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0
>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
>>>>>>> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And, not just producing the release, but also herding cats
>>>> beforehand.
>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
>>>>>>>> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README#ApacheNetBeansReleaseREADME-ProducingaReleaseCandidate
>>>>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:04 PM Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Silly question but what are the responsibilities of the Release
>>>>>>> Manager?
>>>>>>>>>> Eric Bresie
>>>>>>>>>> Ebresie@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> On February 5, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM CST, Neil C Smith <
>>>>>>>>>> neilcsmith@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:28, Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>>>>>>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like Emilian is release manager, with Neil as the
>>>> shadow
>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>>>> manager!
>>>>>>>>>>> Great! Still be good to get another person who wants to learn
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> process in there too - partly prompted by Laszlo's comment
>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> learning while being main RM.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Not to be confused with British politics where the
>>> 'shadow'
>>>>>>>>>> minister is
>>>>>>>>>>>> the opposition minister. :-) )
>>>>>>>>>>> In normal times, maybe. Now it's just everyone opposing
>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>>>> else. I will try not to reflect the current chaos of British
>>>>>> politics
>>>>>>>>>>> in this! :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
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>>>>>>>>>> dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
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>>> visit:
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.

Note that before we can start NetCAT, we need to have (1) a branch, (2) new
splash screens and other release number changes to the branch, and (3) the
first candidate.

Neil, can you do 1, I would be happy to take part in 2, and then you do 3?

Or, does someone else, Laszlo who already volunteered, want to do any of
these tasks?

Gj


On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:54 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:

> That's a way to look at it. Neil, what do you think? Either way would work
> -- depending on how you feel and your time, i.e., the steps are clear: you
> need to create a branch and then produce a release (and modify the below if
> needed):
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README
>
> Gj
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:51 AM Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't mind either way, but I don't think somebody needs to 'shadow' a
>> RM.
>> Dive right in and do it!
>>
>> --emi
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 9:41 AM Geertjan Wielenga
>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> > Or, if we want to start a new thread as suggested here by Emilian, to
>> vote
>> > in a release manager, let's do that. However, we need to do something
>> -- to
>> > be honest, having a release manager in Laszlo is great since he's done
>> it
>> > before, he's enthusiastic, and he's volunteered, and he wanted to do it
>> > partly because he'd done it before and wanted to get a firmer grasp on
>> the
>> > experience before handing it over to someone else. Having Neil shadow
>> him
>> > would be great for the next round.
>> >
>> > Note also that we're already slipping right now in that we do not have
>> our
>> > first voting candidate as scheduled:
>> >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+11.0+Schedule
>> >
>> > Gj
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:30 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
>> > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Well, Laszlo volunteered and was happy to take on the task -- Neil
>> > > volunteered to shadow the release manager. He didn't volunteer to be
>> the
>> > > release manager, at all. :-) Let's not push him into a position he
>> didn't
>> > > volunteer for. Neil, do you want to be the release manager -- or
>> should
>> > > Laszlo do it with you shadowing him? It's up to you, since Laszlo is
>> > happy
>> > > to do it.
>> > >
>> > > Gj
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:22 AM Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I really meant that I'm withdrawing my candidacy. In the meantime
>> > >> something
>> > >> else came up and I won't have the energy to deal with a NB release
>> too.
>> > >>
>> > >> I really think Neil can do it by himself. And he has 2 other previous
>> > RMs
>> > >> to ask questions.
>> > >>
>> > >> --emi
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 5:06 PM Geertjan Wielenga
>> > >> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > For the release manager and his shadow:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Gj
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
>> > >> > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > And, not just producing the release, but also herding cats
>> > beforehand.
>> > >> > :-)
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Gj
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
>> > >> > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README#ApacheNetBeansReleaseREADME-ProducingaReleaseCandidate
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> Gj
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:04 PM Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >>> Silly question but what are the responsibilities of the Release
>> > >> > Manager?
>> > >> > >>>
>> > >> > >>> Eric Bresie
>> > >> > >>> Ebresie@gmail.com
>> > >> > >>> > On February 5, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM CST, Neil C Smith <
>> > >> > >>> neilcsmith@apache.org> wrote:
>> > >> > >>> > On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:28, Geertjan Wielenga
>> > >> > >>> > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> > >> > >>> > > Sounds like Emilian is release manager, with Neil as the
>> > shadow
>> > >> > >>> release
>> > >> > >>> > > manager!
>> > >> > >>> >
>> > >> > >>> > Great! Still be good to get another person who wants to learn
>> > the
>> > >> > >>> > process in there too - partly prompted by Laszlo's comment
>> about
>> > >> > >>> > learning while being main RM.
>> > >> > >>> >
>> > >> > >>> > > (Not to be confused with British politics where the
>> 'shadow'
>> > >> > >>> minister is
>> > >> > >>> > > the opposition minister. :-) )
>> > >> > >>> >
>> > >> > >>> > In normal times, maybe. Now it's just everyone opposing
>> everyone
>> > >> > >>> > else. I will try not to reflect the current chaos of British
>> > >> politics
>> > >> > >>> > in this! :-)
>> > >> > >>> >
>> > >> > >>> > Best wishes,
>> > >> > >>> >
>> > >> > >>> > Neil
>> > >> > >>> >
>> > >> > >>> >
>> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >> > >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>> > >> > dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> > >> > >>> > For additional commands, e-mail:
>> > >> > >>> dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> > >> > >>> >
>> > >> > >>> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists,
>> visit:
>> > >> > >>> >
>> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>> > >> > >>> >
>> > >> > >>> >
>> > >> > >>> >
>> > >> > >>>
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >
>> >
>>
>

Re: Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.

That's a way to look at it. Neil, what do you think? Either way would work
-- depending on how you feel and your time, i.e., the steps are clear: you
need to create a branch and then produce a release (and modify the below if
needed):
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README

Gj



On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:51 AM Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't mind either way, but I don't think somebody needs to 'shadow' a RM.
> Dive right in and do it!
>
> --emi
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 9:41 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Or, if we want to start a new thread as suggested here by Emilian, to
> vote
> > in a release manager, let's do that. However, we need to do something --
> to
> > be honest, having a release manager in Laszlo is great since he's done it
> > before, he's enthusiastic, and he's volunteered, and he wanted to do it
> > partly because he'd done it before and wanted to get a firmer grasp on
> the
> > experience before handing it over to someone else. Having Neil shadow him
> > would be great for the next round.
> >
> > Note also that we're already slipping right now in that we do not have
> our
> > first voting candidate as scheduled:
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+11.0+Schedule
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:30 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
> > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Well, Laszlo volunteered and was happy to take on the task -- Neil
> > > volunteered to shadow the release manager. He didn't volunteer to be
> the
> > > release manager, at all. :-) Let's not push him into a position he
> didn't
> > > volunteer for. Neil, do you want to be the release manager -- or should
> > > Laszlo do it with you shadowing him? It's up to you, since Laszlo is
> > happy
> > > to do it.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:22 AM Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I really meant that I'm withdrawing my candidacy. In the meantime
> > >> something
> > >> else came up and I won't have the energy to deal with a NB release
> too.
> > >>
> > >> I really think Neil can do it by himself. And he has 2 other previous
> > RMs
> > >> to ask questions.
> > >>
> > >> --emi
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 5:06 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> > >> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > For the release manager and his shadow:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0
> > >> >
> > >> > Gj
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
> > >> > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > And, not just producing the release, but also herding cats
> > beforehand.
> > >> > :-)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Gj
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
> > >> > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README#ApacheNetBeansReleaseREADME-ProducingaReleaseCandidate
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Gj
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:04 PM Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>> Silly question but what are the responsibilities of the Release
> > >> > Manager?
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Eric Bresie
> > >> > >>> Ebresie@gmail.com
> > >> > >>> > On February 5, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM CST, Neil C Smith <
> > >> > >>> neilcsmith@apache.org> wrote:
> > >> > >>> > On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:28, Geertjan Wielenga
> > >> > >>> > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >> > >>> > > Sounds like Emilian is release manager, with Neil as the
> > shadow
> > >> > >>> release
> > >> > >>> > > manager!
> > >> > >>> >
> > >> > >>> > Great! Still be good to get another person who wants to learn
> > the
> > >> > >>> > process in there too - partly prompted by Laszlo's comment
> about
> > >> > >>> > learning while being main RM.
> > >> > >>> >
> > >> > >>> > > (Not to be confused with British politics where the 'shadow'
> > >> > >>> minister is
> > >> > >>> > > the opposition minister. :-) )
> > >> > >>> >
> > >> > >>> > In normal times, maybe. Now it's just everyone opposing
> everyone
> > >> > >>> > else. I will try not to reflect the current chaos of British
> > >> politics
> > >> > >>> > in this! :-)
> > >> > >>> >
> > >> > >>> > Best wishes,
> > >> > >>> >
> > >> > >>> > Neil
> > >> > >>> >
> > >> > >>> >
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >> > >>> >
> > >> > >>> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists,
> visit:
> > >> > >>> >
> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> > >> > >>> >
> > >> > >>> >
> > >> > >>> >
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

Re: Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Posted by Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>.

I don't mind either way, but I don't think somebody needs to 'shadow' a RM.
Dive right in and do it!

--emi


On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 9:41 AM Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> Or, if we want to start a new thread as suggested here by Emilian, to vote
> in a release manager, let's do that. However, we need to do something -- to
> be honest, having a release manager in Laszlo is great since he's done it
> before, he's enthusiastic, and he's volunteered, and he wanted to do it
> partly because he'd done it before and wanted to get a firmer grasp on the
> experience before handing it over to someone else. Having Neil shadow him
> would be great for the next round.
>
> Note also that we're already slipping right now in that we do not have our
> first voting candidate as scheduled:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+11.0+Schedule
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:30 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Well, Laszlo volunteered and was happy to take on the task -- Neil
> > volunteered to shadow the release manager. He didn't volunteer to be the
> > release manager, at all. :-) Let's not push him into a position he didn't
> > volunteer for. Neil, do you want to be the release manager -- or should
> > Laszlo do it with you shadowing him? It's up to you, since Laszlo is
> happy
> > to do it.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:22 AM Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I really meant that I'm withdrawing my candidacy. In the meantime
> >> something
> >> else came up and I won't have the energy to deal with a NB release too.
> >>
> >> I really think Neil can do it by himself. And he has 2 other previous
> RMs
> >> to ask questions.
> >>
> >> --emi
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 5:06 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> >> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> > For the release manager and his shadow:
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0
> >> >
> >> > Gj
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
> >> > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > And, not just producing the release, but also herding cats
> beforehand.
> >> > :-)
> >> > >
> >> > > Gj
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
> >> > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README#ApacheNetBeansReleaseREADME-ProducingaReleaseCandidate
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Gj
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:04 PM Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Silly question but what are the responsibilities of the Release
> >> > Manager?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Eric Bresie
> >> > >>> Ebresie@gmail.com
> >> > >>> > On February 5, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM CST, Neil C Smith <
> >> > >>> neilcsmith@apache.org> wrote:
> >> > >>> > On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:28, Geertjan Wielenga
> >> > >>> > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >> > >>> > > Sounds like Emilian is release manager, with Neil as the
> shadow
> >> > >>> release
> >> > >>> > > manager!
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > Great! Still be good to get another person who wants to learn
> the
> >> > >>> > process in there too - partly prompted by Laszlo's comment about
> >> > >>> > learning while being main RM.
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > > (Not to be confused with British politics where the 'shadow'
> >> > >>> minister is
> >> > >>> > > the opposition minister. :-) )
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > In normal times, maybe. Now it's just everyone opposing everyone
> >> > >>> > else. I will try not to reflect the current chaos of British
> >> politics
> >> > >>> > in this! :-)
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > Best wishes,
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > Neil
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> >> > dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >> > >>> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> >> > >>> dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >> > >>> >
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

Re: Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.

Or, if we want to start a new thread as suggested here by Emilian, to vote
in a release manager, let's do that. However, we need to do something -- to
be honest, having a release manager in Laszlo is great since he's done it
before, he's enthusiastic, and he's volunteered, and he wanted to do it
partly because he'd done it before and wanted to get a firmer grasp on the
experience before handing it over to someone else. Having Neil shadow him
would be great for the next round.

Note also that we're already slipping right now in that we do not have our
first voting candidate as scheduled:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+11.0+Schedule

Gj

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:30 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Well, Laszlo volunteered and was happy to take on the task -- Neil
> volunteered to shadow the release manager. He didn't volunteer to be the
> release manager, at all. :-) Let's not push him into a position he didn't
> volunteer for. Neil, do you want to be the release manager -- or should
> Laszlo do it with you shadowing him? It's up to you, since Laszlo is happy
> to do it.
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:22 AM Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I really meant that I'm withdrawing my candidacy. In the meantime
>> something
>> else came up and I won't have the energy to deal with a NB release too.
>>
>> I really think Neil can do it by himself. And he has 2 other previous RMs
>> to ask questions.
>>
>> --emi
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 5:06 PM Geertjan Wielenga
>> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> > For the release manager and his shadow:
>> >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0
>> >
>> > Gj
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
>> > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > And, not just producing the release, but also herding cats beforehand.
>> > :-)
>> > >
>> > > Gj
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
>> > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README#ApacheNetBeansReleaseREADME-ProducingaReleaseCandidate
>> > >>
>> > >> Gj
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:04 PM Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Silly question but what are the responsibilities of the Release
>> > Manager?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Eric Bresie
>> > >>> Ebresie@gmail.com
>> > >>> > On February 5, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM CST, Neil C Smith <
>> > >>> neilcsmith@apache.org> wrote:
>> > >>> > On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:28, Geertjan Wielenga
>> > >>> > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> > >>> > > Sounds like Emilian is release manager, with Neil as the shadow
>> > >>> release
>> > >>> > > manager!
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Great! Still be good to get another person who wants to learn the
>> > >>> > process in there too - partly prompted by Laszlo's comment about
>> > >>> > learning while being main RM.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > > (Not to be confused with British politics where the 'shadow'
>> > >>> minister is
>> > >>> > > the opposition minister. :-) )
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > In normal times, maybe. Now it's just everyone opposing everyone
>> > >>> > else. I will try not to reflect the current chaos of British
>> politics
>> > >>> > in this! :-)
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Best wishes,
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Neil
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>> > dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> > >>> > For additional commands, e-mail:
>> > >>> dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>> > >>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> >
>>
>

Re: Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.

Well, Laszlo volunteered and was happy to take on the task -- Neil
volunteered to shadow the release manager. He didn't volunteer to be the
release manager, at all. :-) Let's not push him into a position he didn't
volunteer for. Neil, do you want to be the release manager -- or should
Laszlo do it with you shadowing him? It's up to you, since Laszlo is happy
to do it.

Gj

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:22 AM Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I really meant that I'm withdrawing my candidacy. In the meantime something
> else came up and I won't have the energy to deal with a NB release too.
>
> I really think Neil can do it by himself. And he has 2 other previous RMs
> to ask questions.
>
> --emi
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 5:06 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > For the release manager and his shadow:
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
> > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > And, not just producing the release, but also herding cats beforehand.
> > :-)
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README#ApacheNetBeansReleaseREADME-ProducingaReleaseCandidate
> > >>
> > >> Gj
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:04 PM Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Silly question but what are the responsibilities of the Release
> > Manager?
> > >>>
> > >>> Eric Bresie
> > >>> Ebresie@gmail.com
> > >>> > On February 5, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM CST, Neil C Smith <
> > >>> neilcsmith@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>> > On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:28, Geertjan Wielenga
> > >>> > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >>> > > Sounds like Emilian is release manager, with Neil as the shadow
> > >>> release
> > >>> > > manager!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Great! Still be good to get another person who wants to learn the
> > >>> > process in there too - partly prompted by Laszlo's comment about
> > >>> > learning while being main RM.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > (Not to be confused with British politics where the 'shadow'
> > >>> minister is
> > >>> > > the opposition minister. :-) )
> > >>> >
> > >>> > In normal times, maybe. Now it's just everyone opposing everyone
> > >>> > else. I will try not to reflect the current chaos of British
> politics
> > >>> > in this! :-)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Best wishes,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Neil
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > >>> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > >>> dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > >>> >
> > >>> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > >>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
>

Re: Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Posted by Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>.

I really meant that I'm withdrawing my candidacy. In the meantime something
else came up and I won't have the energy to deal with a NB release too.

I really think Neil can do it by himself. And he has 2 other previous RMs
to ask questions.

--emi


On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 5:06 PM Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> For the release manager and his shadow:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > And, not just producing the release, but also herding cats beforehand.
> :-)
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
> > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README#ApacheNetBeansReleaseREADME-ProducingaReleaseCandidate
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:04 PM Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Silly question but what are the responsibilities of the Release
> Manager?
> >>>
> >>> Eric Bresie
> >>> Ebresie@gmail.com
> >>> > On February 5, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM CST, Neil C Smith <
> >>> neilcsmith@apache.org> wrote:
> >>> > On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:28, Geertjan Wielenga
> >>> > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>> > > Sounds like Emilian is release manager, with Neil as the shadow
> >>> release
> >>> > > manager!
> >>> >
> >>> > Great! Still be good to get another person who wants to learn the
> >>> > process in there too - partly prompted by Laszlo's comment about
> >>> > learning while being main RM.
> >>> >
> >>> > > (Not to be confused with British politics where the 'shadow'
> >>> minister is
> >>> > > the opposition minister. :-) )
> >>> >
> >>> > In normal times, maybe. Now it's just everyone opposing everyone
> >>> > else. I will try not to reflect the current chaos of British politics
> >>> > in this! :-)
> >>> >
> >>> > Best wishes,
> >>> >
> >>> > Neil
> >>> >
> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >>> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> >>> dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >>> >
> >>> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>
>

Re: Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.

For the release manager and his shadow:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0

Gj

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:

> And, not just producing the release, but also herding cats beforehand. :-)
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README#ApacheNetBeansReleaseREADME-ProducingaReleaseCandidate
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:04 PM Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Silly question but what are the responsibilities of the Release Manager?
>>>
>>> Eric Bresie
>>> Ebresie@gmail.com
>>> > On February 5, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM CST, Neil C Smith <
>>> neilcsmith@apache.org> wrote:
>>> > On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:28, Geertjan Wielenga
>>> > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> > > Sounds like Emilian is release manager, with Neil as the shadow
>>> release
>>> > > manager!
>>> >
>>> > Great! Still be good to get another person who wants to learn the
>>> > process in there too - partly prompted by Laszlo's comment about
>>> > learning while being main RM.
>>> >
>>> > > (Not to be confused with British politics where the 'shadow'
>>> minister is
>>> > > the opposition minister. :-) )
>>> >
>>> > In normal times, maybe. Now it's just everyone opposing everyone
>>> > else. I will try not to reflect the current chaos of British politics
>>> > in this! :-)
>>> >
>>> > Best wishes,
>>> >
>>> > Neil
>>> >
>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>> > For additional commands, e-mail:
>>> dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>> >
>>> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>

Re: Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.

And, not just producing the release, but also herding cats beforehand. :-)

Gj

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:

>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README#ApacheNetBeansReleaseREADME-ProducingaReleaseCandidate
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:04 PM Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Silly question but what are the responsibilities of the Release Manager?
>>
>> Eric Bresie
>> Ebresie@gmail.com
>> > On February 5, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM CST, Neil C Smith <
>> neilcsmith@apache.org> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:28, Geertjan Wielenga
>> > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> > > Sounds like Emilian is release manager, with Neil as the shadow
>> release
>> > > manager!
>> >
>> > Great! Still be good to get another person who wants to learn the
>> > process in there too - partly prompted by Laszlo's comment about
>> > learning while being main RM.
>> >
>> > > (Not to be confused with British politics where the 'shadow' minister
>> is
>> > > the opposition minister. :-) )
>> >
>> > In normal times, maybe. Now it's just everyone opposing everyone
>> > else. I will try not to reflect the current chaos of British politics
>> > in this! :-)
>> >
>> > Best wishes,
>> >
>> > Neil
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> >
>> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>

Re: Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README#ApacheNetBeansReleaseREADME-ProducingaReleaseCandidate

Gj

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:04 PM Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Silly question but what are the responsibilities of the Release Manager?
>
> Eric Bresie
> Ebresie@gmail.com
> > On February 5, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM CST, Neil C Smith <
> neilcsmith@apache.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:28, Geertjan Wielenga
> > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > Sounds like Emilian is release manager, with Neil as the shadow release
> > > manager!
> >
> > Great! Still be good to get another person who wants to learn the
> > process in there too - partly prompted by Laszlo's comment about
> > learning while being main RM.
> >
> > > (Not to be confused with British politics where the 'shadow' minister
> is
> > > the opposition minister. :-) )
> >
> > In normal times, maybe. Now it's just everyone opposing everyone
> > else. I will try not to reflect the current chaos of British politics
> > in this! :-)
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >
> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Posted by Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com>.

Silly question but what are the responsibilities of the Release Manager?

Eric Bresie
Ebresie@gmail.com
> On February 5, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM CST, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:28, Geertjan Wielenga
> <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > Sounds like Emilian is release manager, with Neil as the shadow release
> > manager!
>
> Great! Still be good to get another person who wants to learn the
> process in there too - partly prompted by Laszlo's comment about
> learning while being main RM.
>
> > (Not to be confused with British politics where the 'shadow' minister is
> > the opposition minister. :-) )
>
> In normal times, maybe. Now it's just everyone opposing everyone
> else. I will try not to reflect the current chaos of British politics
> in this! :-)
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>
> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>
>
>

Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.

On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:28, Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Sounds like Emilian is release manager, with Neil as the shadow release
> manager!

Great!  Still be good to get another person who wants to learn the
process in there too - partly prompted by Laszlo's comment about
learning while being main RM.

> (Not to be confused with British politics where the 'shadow' minister is
> the opposition minister. :-) )

In normal times, maybe.  Now it's just everyone opposing everyone
else.  I will try not to reflect the current chaos of British politics
in this! :-)

Best wishes,

Neil

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