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Posted to user@velocity.apache.org by ps...@comcen.com.au on 2001/06/19 02:31:21 UTC
Velocity _still_ appears to cache macros...
Hi again,
Just curious, has anyone had sucess in disabling
macros from being cached under Turbine?
Jason Van Zyl gave me some advice about setting Velocity
parameters, though for some reason, Velocity doesn't seem
to reload the macro when it is parsing the template.
Is it possible this behaviour is particular to Velocity running
under Turbine?
Would it help if I posted a snippet of my Turbine or Velocity log?
I have found that restarting Turbine 20 times eventually clags my linux
system with java process... :(
Thanks,
Patrick.
Re: Velocity _still_ appears to cache macros...
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@optonline.net>.
Sorry - I couldn't resist the previous...
psaunder@comcen.com.au wrote:
>
> Hi again,
> Just curious, has anyone had sucess in disabling
> macros from being cached under Turbine?
>
> Jason Van Zyl gave me some advice about setting Velocity
> parameters, though for some reason, Velocity doesn't seem
> to reload the macro when it is parsing the template.
>
> Is it possible this behaviour is particular to Velocity running
> under Turbine?
No, I doubt it - what do you have as the settings?
It should be
<thingy>.velocimacro.permissions.allow.inline.to.replace.global = true
with whatever the right <thingy> for Turbine should be.
Can you send us the log where Velocity is initialized? That will tell
us if you are indeed setting it as the VMFactory lists its settings as
it goes through them.
> Would it help if I posted a snippet of my Turbine or Velocity log?
Yes.
geir
--
Geir Magnusson Jr. geirm@optonline.net
System and Software Consulting
Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/
You have a genius for suggesting things I've come a cropper with!
Re: Velocity _still_ appears to cache macros...
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@optonline.net>.
psaunder@comcen.com.au wrote:
>
> Hi again,
> Just curious, has anyone had sucess in disabling
> macros from being cached under Turbine?
>
> Jason Van Zyl gave me some advice about setting Velocity
> parameters, though for some reason, Velocity doesn't seem
> to reload the macro when it is parsing the template.
>
> Is it possible this behaviour is particular to Velocity running
> under Turbine?
> Would it help if I posted a snippet of my Turbine or Velocity log?
>
> I have found that restarting Turbine 20 times eventually clags my linux
> system with java process... :(
try setting the
number.of.times.to.restart.turbine.under.linux.to.clear.vm.cache = 1
that should solve it.
geir
--
Geir Magnusson Jr. geirm@optonline.net
System and Software Consulting
Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/
You have a genius for suggesting things I've come a cropper with!
RE: Velocity _still_ appears to cache macros...
Posted by David Duddleston <da...@i2a.com>.
Hmmm. Am I on the right bus... I mean list?
-david
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmj@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [mailto:gmj@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net]On
> Behalf Of Geir Magnusson Jr.
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:45 PM
> To: velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Velocity _still_ appears to cache macros...
>
>
> Travis Low wrote:
> >
> > Don't worry about the zombie processes. They are annoying, but
> cause no ill effects.
> >
> > I haven't tried to get 3D acceleration working, though I did
> spend a bit of time trying to
> > get direct rendering to work. No luck. Velocity still runs at
> the same speed. :-)
> >
>
> We have OpenGL support scheduled for Velocity v25.3
>
> geir
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr. geirm@optonline.net
> System and Software Consulting
> Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/
> You have a genius for suggesting things I've come a cropper with!
Re: Velocity _still_ appears to cache macros...
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@optonline.net>.
Travis Low wrote:
>
> Don't worry about the zombie processes. They are annoying, but cause no ill effects.
>
> I haven't tried to get 3D acceleration working, though I did spend a bit of time trying to
> get direct rendering to work. No luck. Velocity still runs at the same speed. :-)
>
We have OpenGL support scheduled for Velocity v25.3
geir
--
Geir Magnusson Jr. geirm@optonline.net
System and Software Consulting
Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/
You have a genius for suggesting things I've come a cropper with!
Re: Velocity _still_ appears to cache macros...
Posted by Travis Low <tr...@dawnstar.org>.
Don't worry about the zombie processes. They are annoying, but cause no ill effects.
I haven't tried to get 3D acceleration working, though I did spend a bit of time trying to
get direct rendering to work. No luck. Velocity still runs at the same speed. :-)
T
psaunder@comcen.com.au wrote:
> Hey Travis,
> _exactly_ same setup as mine. I use jbuilder 4.0 for development of
> my java modules etc, so it's convenient and a good idea to use the IBM
> JDK 1.3 that comes with that for running Turbine..
>
> I also saw all those Zombie processes that were _very_ resistant to kill -9.
>
> BTW, ever get 3D accel working? I did everything down the the last full stop and couldn't get it working. I think once the config gets a bit screwed
> it can be a dog to get working.. :(
>
> Patrick.
>
> Quoting Travis Low <tr...@dawnstar.org>:
>
>
>>That's what I do, but occasionally I get a bunch of zombie processes as
>>a result. I'm
>>running the IBM JDK 1.3 on Mandrake 8. Just FYI.
>>
>>-- Travis Low
>> <ma...@dawnstar.org>
>> <http://dawnstar.org/travis>
>>
>>
>>Jon Stevens wrote:
>>
>>
>>>on 6/18/01 5:31 PM, "psaunder@comcen.com.au" <ps...@comcen.com.au>
>>>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>I have found that restarting Turbine 20 times eventually clags my
>>>>
>>linux
>>
>>>>system with java process... :(
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Patrick.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>What?
>>>
>>>You do realize that when you do a ps -uax you see the JVM *threads*
>>>
>>and not
>>
>>>extra *processes*, right? All you need to do is properly kill the root
>>>
>>JVM
>>
>>>and that will restart things.
>>>
>>>-jon
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
-- Travis Low
<ma...@dawnstar.org>
<http://dawnstar.org/travis>
Re: Velocity _still_ appears to cache macros...
Posted by ps...@comcen.com.au.
Hey Travis,
_exactly_ same setup as mine. I use jbuilder 4.0 for development of
my java modules etc, so it's convenient and a good idea to use the IBM
JDK 1.3 that comes with that for running Turbine..
I also saw all those Zombie processes that were _very_ resistant to kill -9.
BTW, ever get 3D accel working? I did everything down the the last full stop and couldn't get it working. I think once the config gets a bit screwed
it can be a dog to get working.. :(
Patrick.
Quoting Travis Low <tr...@dawnstar.org>:
> That's what I do, but occasionally I get a bunch of zombie processes as
> a result. I'm
> running the IBM JDK 1.3 on Mandrake 8. Just FYI.
>
> -- Travis Low
> <ma...@dawnstar.org>
> <http://dawnstar.org/travis>
>
>
> Jon Stevens wrote:
>
> > on 6/18/01 5:31 PM, "psaunder@comcen.com.au" <ps...@comcen.com.au>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I have found that restarting Turbine 20 times eventually clags my
> linux
> >>system with java process... :(
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Patrick.
> >>
> >
> > What?
> >
> > You do realize that when you do a ps -uax you see the JVM *threads*
> and not
> > extra *processes*, right? All you need to do is properly kill the root
> JVM
> > and that will restart things.
> >
> > -jon
>
>
>
Re: Velocity _still_ appears to cache macros...
Posted by Travis Low <tr...@dawnstar.org>.
That's what I do, but occasionally I get a bunch of zombie processes as a result. I'm
running the IBM JDK 1.3 on Mandrake 8. Just FYI.
-- Travis Low
<ma...@dawnstar.org>
<http://dawnstar.org/travis>
Jon Stevens wrote:
> on 6/18/01 5:31 PM, "psaunder@comcen.com.au" <ps...@comcen.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>>I have found that restarting Turbine 20 times eventually clags my linux
>>system with java process... :(
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Patrick.
>>
>
> What?
>
> You do realize that when you do a ps -uax you see the JVM *threads* and not
> extra *processes*, right? All you need to do is properly kill the root JVM
> and that will restart things.
>
> -jon
Re: Velocity _still_ appears to cache macros...
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@optonline.net>.
As interesting as this is... any chance you can tell us the settings and
the log ? :)
geir
psaunder@comcen.com.au wrote:
>
> Oh,
> just the standard way: reboot my linnx machine..
> Joke!
>
> Actually, nothing special,
> just bin/catatlina stop; bin/catatlina start
>
> BTW, just so I'm understood, I do see my updates to macro library
> after every restart, just not after edit while Turbine is running.
>
> Pat.
>
> Quoting Jon Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>:
>
> > on 6/18/01 5:51 PM, "psaunder@comcen.com.au" <ps...@comcen.com.au>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Jon, I'm not sure which angle you're coming from..
> > > If it came across like I as bagging Turbine, well, that
> > > was certainly not my intention.
> > > Hey, I know bouncing it 20 times is probably
> > > going to leave Java a little groggy,
> > > so, yeah, I probably need a little education on how
> > > to keep it healthy.. but then I never professed to
> > > be an expert on this... =:o
> > >
> > > -Pat
> >
> > No "angle"...just letting you know...
> >
> > Also, I'm not really sure how you are "bouncing" turbine...care to
> > share?
> >
> > -jon
> >
> >
--
Geir Magnusson Jr. geirm@optonline.net
System and Software Consulting
Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/
You have a genius for suggesting things I've come a cropper with!
Re: Velocity _still_ appears to cache macros...
Posted by ps...@comcen.com.au.
Oh,
just the standard way: reboot my linnx machine..
Joke!
Actually, nothing special,
just bin/catatlina stop; bin/catatlina start
BTW, just so I'm understood, I do see my updates to macro library
after every restart, just not after edit while Turbine is running.
Pat.
Quoting Jon Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>:
> on 6/18/01 5:51 PM, "psaunder@comcen.com.au" <ps...@comcen.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> > Jon, I'm not sure which angle you're coming from..
> > If it came across like I as bagging Turbine, well, that
> > was certainly not my intention.
> > Hey, I know bouncing it 20 times is probably
> > going to leave Java a little groggy,
> > so, yeah, I probably need a little education on how
> > to keep it healthy.. but then I never professed to
> > be an expert on this... =:o
> >
> > -Pat
>
> No "angle"...just letting you know...
>
> Also, I'm not really sure how you are "bouncing" turbine...care to
> share?
>
> -jon
>
>
Re: Velocity _still_ appears to cache macros...
Posted by Jon Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>.
on 6/18/01 5:51 PM, "psaunder@comcen.com.au" <ps...@comcen.com.au> wrote:
> Jon, I'm not sure which angle you're coming from..
> If it came across like I as bagging Turbine, well, that
> was certainly not my intention.
> Hey, I know bouncing it 20 times is probably
> going to leave Java a little groggy,
> so, yeah, I probably need a little education on how
> to keep it healthy.. but then I never professed to
> be an expert on this... =:o
>
> -Pat
No "angle"...just letting you know...
Also, I'm not really sure how you are "bouncing" turbine...care to share?
-jon
Re: Velocity _still_ appears to cache macros...
Posted by ps...@comcen.com.au.
Jon, I'm not sure which angle you're coming from..
If it came across like I as bagging Turbine, well, that
was certainly not my intention.
Hey, I know bouncing it 20 times is probably
going to leave Java a little groggy,
so, yeah, I probably need a little education on how
to keep it healthy.. but then I never professed to
be an expert on this... =:o
-Pat
Quoting Jon Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>:
> on 6/18/01 5:31 PM, "psaunder@comcen.com.au" <ps...@comcen.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> > I have found that restarting Turbine 20 times eventually clags my
> linux
> > system with java process... :(
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Patrick.
>
> What?
>
> You do realize that when you do a ps -uax you see the JVM *threads* and
> not
> extra *processes*, right? All you need to do is properly kill the root
> JVM
> and that will restart things.
>
> -jon
>
>
Re: Velocity _still_ appears to cache macros...
Posted by Jon Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>.
on 6/18/01 5:31 PM, "psaunder@comcen.com.au" <ps...@comcen.com.au> wrote:
> I have found that restarting Turbine 20 times eventually clags my linux
> system with java process... :(
>
> Thanks,
>
> Patrick.
What?
You do realize that when you do a ps -uax you see the JVM *threads* and not
extra *processes*, right? All you need to do is properly kill the root JVM
and that will restart things.
-jon