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Posted to dev@openjpa.apache.org by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM> on 2009/01/13 22:35:07 UTC

Stale web page

Seems like this page is not updated automatically. Is there a cron job  
that has failed?

http://openjpa.apache.org/mailing-lists.html

Craig

Craig L Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!


Re: Fwd: Stale web page

Posted by Pinaki Poddar <pp...@apache.org>.
> Does anyone else feel strongly in favor or against having Nabble embedded
in the wiki?

> Or alternatively just link to nabble, and let users see live content
> there. :) 

I prefer this KISS approach.


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Re: Fwd: Stale web page

Posted by Michael Dick <mi...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the explanation Jeff. Our release instructions have a section
about updating the wiki (just a whitespace update will do) to force the main
page to upload. I never understood that until now.

I know we can get RSYNCSITE.sh to run nearly immediately after yours, but
the process sounds a bit error prone to me. Is there an easy way to trigger
a space export say in a cron job.

How useful is having the Nabble RSS feed on the wiki? I never remember to
look there (maybe because it's often out of date) so I'm inclined to just
link to Nabble and avoid further complicating the cron jobs.

Does anyone else feel strongly in favor or against having Nabble embedded in
the wiki?

-mike

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Jeff Turner <je...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It appears to work as follows:
>
>  - Confluence generates a static HTML dump of pages whenever they are
>   edited. The static dump is visible at eg.
>   http://cwiki.apache.org/openjpa/mailing-lists.html.  For pages with RSS
>   content, I think the static content would be from the time of the last
>   edit.
>  - At 55 minutes past the hour every hour, the exported files are
>   rsynced to people.apache.org:/x1/www/confluence-exports, of which
> ~jefft/public_html/confluence is a symlink (please update your script).
>  - RSYNCSITE.sh then rsyncs to the live website directory.
>
> If you have dynamic RSS content that you want to display on a static
> website, the best we could do is trigger a space export just before the
> hourly rsync, and then ask mprudhom to ensure RSYNCSITE.sh triggers ASAP
> after mine, and then the RSS will only be out of date by up to an hour.
>
> Or alternatively just link to nabble, and let users see live content
> there. :)
>
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 08:23:56AM -0800, Craig L Russell wrote:
> > Hi Jeff,
> >
> > I wonder if there's a better way to keep the mail page current? Or
> > should we just abandon the notion? Having a stale page isn't a good
> > way to promote our site.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > >From: Michael Dick <mi...@gmail.com>
> > >Date: January 15, 2009 7:52:14 AM PST
> > >To: dev@openjpa.apache.org
> > >Subject: Re: Stale web page
> > >Reply-To: dev@openjpa.apache.org
> > >
> > >The way the main site is populated from confluence has always been a
> > >bit of
> > >a mystery to me, so I did a little digging.
> > >
> > >As I understand it user jefft (Jeff Turner) on people.apache.org has a
> > >script which pulls content from confluence. The output is saved in
> > >his home
> > >directory. We in turn have a script which synchronizes our website
> > >from his
> > >copy ( /www/openjpa.apache.org/RSYNCSITE.sh on people.apache.org).
> > >
> > >I'm not sure which of these scripts are running, or how often they
> > >rin. I
> > >took a quick look at Jeff's directory and it looks like the mailing
> > >list
> > >page hasn't been updated since summer.
> > >
> > >If anyone wants to follow up with Jeff and see if we can get the
> > >website
> > >refreshed more often they're welcome to do so. I'll put it on my
> > >list of
> > >todos but I might not get to it for a while.
> > >
> > >-mike
> > >
> > >On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Pinaki Poddar <pp...@apache.org>
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>Hi Craig,
> > >>This page suffers from refresh problem. Michael Dick and I made few
> > >>attempts with advertised 'embedded Nabble' feature without much
> > >>luck [1].
> > >>
> > >>[1] http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENJPA-649
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>View this message in context:
> > >>http://n2.nabble.com/Stale-web-page-tp2153480p2159394.html
> > >>Sent from the OpenJPA Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> > Craig L Russell
> > Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
> > 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
> > P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
> >
>

Re: Fwd: Stale web page

Posted by Jeff Turner <je...@apache.org>.
Hi,

It appears to work as follows:

 - Confluence generates a static HTML dump of pages whenever they are
   edited. The static dump is visible at eg.
   http://cwiki.apache.org/openjpa/mailing-lists.html.  For pages with RSS
   content, I think the static content would be from the time of the last
   edit.
 - At 55 minutes past the hour every hour, the exported files are
   rsynced to people.apache.org:/x1/www/confluence-exports, of which
~jefft/public_html/confluence is a symlink (please update your script).
 - RSYNCSITE.sh then rsyncs to the live website directory.

If you have dynamic RSS content that you want to display on a static
website, the best we could do is trigger a space export just before the
hourly rsync, and then ask mprudhom to ensure RSYNCSITE.sh triggers ASAP
after mine, and then the RSS will only be out of date by up to an hour.

Or alternatively just link to nabble, and let users see live content
there. :)


Cheers,
Jeff

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 08:23:56AM -0800, Craig L Russell wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> I wonder if there's a better way to keep the mail page current? Or  
> should we just abandon the notion? Having a stale page isn't a good  
> way to promote our site.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Craig
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> >From: Michael Dick <mi...@gmail.com>
> >Date: January 15, 2009 7:52:14 AM PST
> >To: dev@openjpa.apache.org
> >Subject: Re: Stale web page
> >Reply-To: dev@openjpa.apache.org
> >
> >The way the main site is populated from confluence has always been a  
> >bit of
> >a mystery to me, so I did a little digging.
> >
> >As I understand it user jefft (Jeff Turner) on people.apache.org has a
> >script which pulls content from confluence. The output is saved in  
> >his home
> >directory. We in turn have a script which synchronizes our website  
> >from his
> >copy ( /www/openjpa.apache.org/RSYNCSITE.sh on people.apache.org).
> >
> >I'm not sure which of these scripts are running, or how often they  
> >rin. I
> >took a quick look at Jeff's directory and it looks like the mailing  
> >list
> >page hasn't been updated since summer.
> >
> >If anyone wants to follow up with Jeff and see if we can get the  
> >website
> >refreshed more often they're welcome to do so. I'll put it on my  
> >list of
> >todos but I might not get to it for a while.
> >
> >-mike
> >
> >On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Pinaki Poddar <pp...@apache.org>  
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Hi Craig,
> >>This page suffers from refresh problem. Michael Dick and I made few
> >>attempts with advertised 'embedded Nabble' feature without much  
> >>luck [1].
> >>
> >>[1] http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENJPA-649
> >>
> >>--
> >>View this message in context:
> >>http://n2.nabble.com/Stale-web-page-tp2153480p2159394.html
> >>Sent from the OpenJPA Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>
> >>
> 
> Craig L Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
> 

Fwd: Stale web page

Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
Hi Jeff,

I wonder if there's a better way to keep the mail page current? Or  
should we just abandon the notion? Having a stale page isn't a good  
way to promote our site.

Thanks,

Craig

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Michael Dick <mi...@gmail.com>
> Date: January 15, 2009 7:52:14 AM PST
> To: dev@openjpa.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Stale web page
> Reply-To: dev@openjpa.apache.org
>
> The way the main site is populated from confluence has always been a  
> bit of
> a mystery to me, so I did a little digging.
>
> As I understand it user jefft (Jeff Turner) on people.apache.org has a
> script which pulls content from confluence. The output is saved in  
> his home
> directory. We in turn have a script which synchronizes our website  
> from his
> copy ( /www/openjpa.apache.org/RSYNCSITE.sh on people.apache.org).
>
> I'm not sure which of these scripts are running, or how often they  
> rin. I
> took a quick look at Jeff's directory and it looks like the mailing  
> list
> page hasn't been updated since summer.
>
> If anyone wants to follow up with Jeff and see if we can get the  
> website
> refreshed more often they're welcome to do so. I'll put it on my  
> list of
> todos but I might not get to it for a while.
>
> -mike
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Pinaki Poddar <pp...@apache.org>  
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Craig,
>> This page suffers from refresh problem. Michael Dick and I made few
>> attempts with advertised 'embedded Nabble' feature without much  
>> luck [1].
>>
>> [1] http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENJPA-649
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://n2.nabble.com/Stale-web-page-tp2153480p2159394.html
>> Sent from the OpenJPA Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>

Craig L Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!


Re: Stale web page

Posted by Michael Dick <mi...@gmail.com>.
The way the main site is populated from confluence has always been a bit of
a mystery to me, so I did a little digging.

As I understand it user jefft (Jeff Turner) on people.apache.org has a
script which pulls content from confluence. The output is saved in his home
directory. We in turn have a script which synchronizes our website from his
copy ( /www/openjpa.apache.org/RSYNCSITE.sh on people.apache.org).

I'm not sure which of these scripts are running, or how often they rin. I
took a quick look at Jeff's directory and it looks like the mailing list
page hasn't been updated since summer.

If anyone wants to follow up with Jeff and see if we can get the website
refreshed more often they're welcome to do so. I'll put it on my list of
todos but I might not get to it for a while.

-mike

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Pinaki Poddar <pp...@apache.org> wrote:

>
> Hi Craig,
>  This page suffers from refresh problem. Michael Dick and I made few
> attempts with advertised 'embedded Nabble' feature without much luck [1].
>
> [1] http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENJPA-649
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://n2.nabble.com/Stale-web-page-tp2153480p2159394.html
> Sent from the OpenJPA Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>

Re: Stale web page

Posted by Pinaki Poddar <pp...@apache.org>.
Hi Craig,
  This page suffers from refresh problem. Michael Dick and I made few
attempts with advertised 'embedded Nabble' feature without much luck [1].

[1] http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENJPA-649  

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