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Posted to commits@spamassassin.apache.org by pd...@apache.org on 2019/03/21 20:16:30 UTC
svn commit: r1856009 - /spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf
Author: pds
Date: Thu Mar 21 20:16:30 2019
New Revision: 1856009
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1856009&view=rev
Log:
Adjust the score for DKIMWL
Modified:
spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf
Modified: spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf?rev=1856009&r1=1856008&r2=1856009&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf (original)
+++ spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf Thu Mar 21 20:16:30 2019
@@ -83,4 +83,5 @@ score FILL_THIS_FORM_LONG 2.00
# Lots of hate; score as informative hammy, may override locally
score RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.001
-
+# pds
+score DKIMWL_WL_HIGH -7.5
Re: svn commit: r1856009 -
/spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf
Posted by RW <rw...@googlemail.com>.
On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 07:12:42 +0200
Henrik K wrote:
> Please describe changes in any case, "pds" tells nothing about what
> the score was even for. Everyone else did in that file.
>
There looks to be something missing:
$ grep -hr 'askdns.*dkimwl' /var/db/spamassassin
askdns __DKIMWL_WL_HI _DKIMDOMAIN_.lookup.dkimwl.org A /^127\.\d+\.\d+\.5$/
askdns __DKIMWL_WL_MED _DKIMDOMAIN_.lookup.dkimwl.org A /^127\.\d+\.\d+\.3$/
askdns DKIMWL_BL _DKIMDOMAIN_.lookup.dkimwl.org A /^127\.\d+\.\d+\.0$/
DKIMWL has 5 levels of trust; it's not necessary to support them all
individually, but presumably there shouldn't be a hole between 3 and 5.
The missing level is called Med-High on the site. If anyone adds a new
rule, I suggest avoiding a name that has one of the existing
DKIMWL_WL_* rule name as a sub-string as that can be awkward to handle
in client side filters.
Re: svn commit: r1856009 -
/spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf
Posted by Henrik K <he...@hege.li>.
Please describe changes in any case, "pds" tells nothing about what the
score was even for. Everyone else did in that file.
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 09:30:16PM +0000, Paul Stead wrote:
> I'll revert - I was involved in the initial conversation with davej - I was under the impression this was the initial intention but ruleqa was re-adjusting score to 0.1
>
> Paul
>
> ???On 21/03/2019, 21:24, "Bill Cole" <sa...@billmail.scconsult.com> wrote:
>
> I'm extremely uneasy with this.
>
> We should not be manually scoring an essentially untested/unproven
> DNS-based list that is outside of project control at such a powerful
> level.
>
> DNSBLs tend to decay into "list the world" mode eventually after they
> die, often far sooner than anyone intends or expects.
>
> (FWIW: locally I'm scoring DKIMWL_* at 0.001 because I have no basis for
> believing it to be useful, yet.)
>
> On 21 Mar 2019, at 16:16, pds@apache.org wrote:
>
> > Author: pds
> > Date: Thu Mar 21 20:16:30 2019
> > New Revision: 1856009
> >
> > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1856009&view=rev
> > Log:
> > Adjust the score for DKIMWL
> >
> > Modified:
> > spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf
> >
> > Modified: spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf
> > URL:
> > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf?rev=1856009&r1=1856008&r2=1856009&view=diff
> > ==============================================================================
> > --- spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf (original)
> > +++ spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf Thu Mar 21
> > 20:16:30 2019
> > @@ -83,4 +83,5 @@ score FILL_THIS_FORM_LONG 2.00
> > # Lots of hate; score as informative hammy, may override locally
> > score RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.001
> >
> > -
> > +# pds
> > +score DKIMWL_WL_HIGH -7.5
>
>
> --
> Bill Cole
>
>
>
> Paul Stead
> Senior Engineer
> Zen Internet
Re: svn commit: r1856009 -
/spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf
Posted by Paul Stead <pa...@zeninternet.co.uk>.
I'll revert - I was involved in the initial conversation with davej - I was under the impression this was the initial intention but ruleqa was re-adjusting score to 0.1
Paul
On 21/03/2019, 21:24, "Bill Cole" <sa...@billmail.scconsult.com> wrote:
I'm extremely uneasy with this.
We should not be manually scoring an essentially untested/unproven
DNS-based list that is outside of project control at such a powerful
level.
DNSBLs tend to decay into "list the world" mode eventually after they
die, often far sooner than anyone intends or expects.
(FWIW: locally I'm scoring DKIMWL_* at 0.001 because I have no basis for
believing it to be useful, yet.)
On 21 Mar 2019, at 16:16, pds@apache.org wrote:
> Author: pds
> Date: Thu Mar 21 20:16:30 2019
> New Revision: 1856009
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1856009&view=rev
> Log:
> Adjust the score for DKIMWL
>
> Modified:
> spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf
>
> Modified: spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf
> URL:
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf?rev=1856009&r1=1856008&r2=1856009&view=diff
> ==============================================================================
> --- spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf (original)
> +++ spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf Thu Mar 21
> 20:16:30 2019
> @@ -83,4 +83,5 @@ score FILL_THIS_FORM_LONG 2.00
> # Lots of hate; score as informative hammy, may override locally
> score RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.001
>
> -
> +# pds
> +score DKIMWL_WL_HIGH -7.5
--
Bill Cole
Paul Stead
Senior Engineer
Zen Internet
Re: svn commit: r1856009 -
/spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf
Posted by Bill Cole <sa...@billmail.scconsult.com>.
I'm extremely uneasy with this.
We should not be manually scoring an essentially untested/unproven
DNS-based list that is outside of project control at such a powerful
level.
DNSBLs tend to decay into "list the world" mode eventually after they
die, often far sooner than anyone intends or expects.
(FWIW: locally I'm scoring DKIMWL_* at 0.001 because I have no basis for
believing it to be useful, yet.)
On 21 Mar 2019, at 16:16, pds@apache.org wrote:
> Author: pds
> Date: Thu Mar 21 20:16:30 2019
> New Revision: 1856009
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1856009&view=rev
> Log:
> Adjust the score for DKIMWL
>
> Modified:
> spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf
>
> Modified: spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf
> URL:
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf?rev=1856009&r1=1856008&r2=1856009&view=diff
> ==============================================================================
> --- spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf (original)
> +++ spamassassin/trunk/rules/73_sandbox_manual_scores.cf Thu Mar 21
> 20:16:30 2019
> @@ -83,4 +83,5 @@ score FILL_THIS_FORM_LONG 2.00
> # Lots of hate; score as informative hammy, may override locally
> score RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.001
>
> -
> +# pds
> +score DKIMWL_WL_HIGH -7.5
--
Bill Cole