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Posted to users@openoffice.apache.org by Bruce Pierson <bp...@gmail.com> on 2015/03/26 15:01:20 UTC
Mystery messages
Hello
I get the message below from *ezmlm *list manager every so often.
*Messages to you from the users mailing list seem tohave been bouncing.
I've attached a copy of the first bouncemessage I received.If this message
bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces,I will remove
your address from the users mailing list,without further notice.*
I would like to know if I am still on the mailing list (I assume I am,
since I get messages) and have not been removed. I am not sure why this
happens.
I signed up for the mailing list originally because I had the infamous MAC
problem with the Save Stated Error. I have had other problems as well but
fortunately so have others in this list and by reading the groups
responses, I have managed to solve them.
Thanks,
Bruce Pierson
*"The Department of Redundancy Department"*
Re: Mystery messages
Posted by James Knott <ja...@rogers.com>.
On 03/26/2015 10:01 AM, Bruce Pierson wrote:
> I get the message below from *ezmlm *list manager every so often.
I also get them and for more than one list. I don't know where the
problem is, but I suspect the list server.
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Re: Mystery messages
Posted by jonathon <to...@gmail.com>.
On 26/03/15 14:45, Jim McLaughlin wrote:
> As others have commented with respect to Yahoo, the chances of Google being
> off line that often are slim to none, and slim doesn't count.
You'd be surprised at how often the various email service providers
bounce each other's email as "undeliverable".
(Both Google and Yahoo have publicly available and distributed lists of
IP4 and IP6 addresses used exclusively for email, for white-listing by
each other, and other organizations.)
> It is yet another bug in the OO universe.
If the mailing list manager software doesn't include in all of the
headers, and other things that Google, Yahoo and the others
expect/want/demand/require, then it is a bug in the OO Universe.
If it does include all of those things, then it is just the normal and
usual behaviour of the major email service providers, when talking to
non-major email service providers.
jonathon
Re: Mystery messages
Posted by Jim McLaughlin <jj...@gmail.com>.
Rory -
My ISP is a direct feed from hGoogle. I get the "mystery messages at least
every other week from the OO list.
As others have commented with respect to Yahoo, the chances of Google being
off line that often are slim to none, and slim doesn't count.
It is yet another bug in the OO universe.
While it is annoying, it affects nothing critical. Given the fees I don't
pay for OO as compared to, say Micro$loth Office, I can put up with it.
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 10:01:20 -0400
> Bruce Pierson <bp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello
> >
> > I get the message below from *ezmlm *list manager every so often.
> >
>
> If for some reason the receiving email server is off-line - as may be
> because of maintenance or sometimes internet congestion - the Apache server
> may register the non-delivery and send you a warning message. In general,
> this is nothing to worry about. Of course, if yo start getting many
> warning messages, there may be a hardware or software problem at the
> receiving end which needs investigation.
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Messages to you from the users mailing list seem tohave been bouncing.
> > I've attached a copy of the first bouncemessage I received.If this
> message
> > bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces,I will remove
> > your address from the users mailing list,without further notice.*
> >
> > I would like to know if I am still on the mailing list (I assume I am,
> > since I get messages) and have not been removed. I am not sure why this
> > happens.
> >
> > I signed up for the mailing list originally because I had the infamous
> MAC
> > problem with the Save Stated Error. I have had other problems as well
> but
> > fortunately so have others in this list and by reading the groups
> > responses, I have managed to solve them.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bruce Pierson
> >
> > *"The Department of Redundancy Department"*
>
>
> --
> Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>
>
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Re: Mystery messages
Posted by Vince-WA2RSX <wa...@verizon.net>.
TNX.
On 3/27/2015 4:42 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> Yes, the archive location does not appear in the footers added by the list server.
>
> All of that information, for each list, is at
>
> <http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html>.
>
> - Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vince B. [mailto:wa.tworsx@verizon.net]
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 12:24
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Mystery messages
>
> How do I get to the List Archive?
>
> I am list- registered, but have not come across Archive.
>
> Regards,
> Vince
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
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RE: Mystery messages
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
Yes, the archive location does not appear in the footers added by the list server.
All of that information, for each list, is at
<http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html>.
- Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Vince B. [mailto:wa.tworsx@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 12:24
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Mystery messages
How do I get to the List Archive?
I am list- registered, but have not come across Archive.
Regards,
Vince
Sent from my iPad
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Re: Mystery messages
Posted by "Vince B." <wa...@verizon.net>.
How do I get to the List Archive?
I am list- registered, but have not come across Archive.
Regards,
Vince
Sent from my iPad
RE: Mystery messages
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
We don't know the root cause of these notices.
What we do know is,
1. Your receiving the notice indicates that, if there is a problem, you don't have it now.
2. You can check the list archive to see if you are actually missed any messages, and see what they are.
I've come to believe that, at least some of the time, the message itself is a bit bogus. And I don't know, just guessing.
- Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarrwrk@iol.ie]
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 07:27
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Bruce Pierson
Subject: Re: Mystery messages
On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 10:01:20 -0400
Bruce Pierson <bp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello
>
> I get the message below from *ezmlm *list manager every so often.
>
If for some reason the receiving email server is off-line - as may be because of maintenance or sometimes internet congestion - the Apache server may register the non-delivery and send you a warning message. In general, this is nothing to worry about. Of course, if yo start getting many warning messages, there may be a hardware or software problem at the receiving end which needs investigation.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Messages to you from the users mailing list seem tohave been bouncing.
> I've attached a copy of the first bouncemessage I received.If this message
> bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces,I will remove
> your address from the users mailing list,without further notice.*
>
> I would like to know if I am still on the mailing list (I assume I am,
> since I get messages) and have not been removed. I am not sure why this
> happens.
>
> I signed up for the mailing list originally because I had the infamous MAC
> problem with the Save Stated Error. I have had other problems as well but
> fortunately so have others in this list and by reading the groups
> responses, I have managed to solve them.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruce Pierson
>
> *"The Department of Redundancy Department"*
--
Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>
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Re: Mystery messages
Posted by Bruce Pierson <bp...@gmail.com>.
Thanks to all for the responses. I have been using Open Office for about 5
years and prefer it as well as other Open Source applications. I was
concerned that one day I might get removed from the list without knowing
why.
*"The Department of Redundancy Department"*
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:57 AM, James Knott <ja...@rogers.com>
wrote:
> On 03/26/2015 10:50 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> > I'd believe anything of Yahoo! I'm sure they are sent again, but if
> many resends are necessary this may trigger the warning.
>
> A system as large as theirs uses multiple servers and load balancing,
> which tend to prevent single point failures. It would take quite a lot
> to make them unavailable. Someone else mentioned they use Google and
> also get those messages. Again, multiple servers and load balancing
> would be used.
>
>
>
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Re: Mystery messages
Posted by James Knott <ja...@rogers.com>.
On 03/26/2015 10:50 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> I'd believe anything of Yahoo! I'm sure they are sent again, but if many resends are necessary this may trigger the warning.
A system as large as theirs uses multiple servers and load balancing,
which tend to prevent single point failures. It would take quite a lot
to make them unavailable. Someone else mentioned they use Google and
also get those messages. Again, multiple servers and load balancing
would be used.
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Re: Mystery messages
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 10:35:13 -0400
James Knott <ja...@rogers.com> wrote:
> On 03/26/2015 10:27 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> > If for some reason the receiving email server is off-line - as may be because of maintenance or sometimes internet congestion - the Apache server may register the non-delivery and send you a warning message.
>
> My ISP gets email service from Yahoo. How likely is it that they are
> off line? Also, shouldn't the server try to send again later? I have
> seen messages reporting where this has happened.
>
I'd believe anything of Yahoo! I'm sure they are sent again, but if many resends are necessary this may trigger the warning.
--
Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>
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Re: Mystery messages
Posted by James Knott <ja...@rogers.com>.
On 03/26/2015 10:27 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> If for some reason the receiving email server is off-line - as may be because of maintenance or sometimes internet congestion - the Apache server may register the non-delivery and send you a warning message.
My ISP gets email service from Yahoo. How likely is it that they are
off line? Also, shouldn't the server try to send again later? I have
seen messages reporting where this has happened.
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Re: Mystery messages
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 10:01:20 -0400
Bruce Pierson <bp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello
>
> I get the message below from *ezmlm *list manager every so often.
>
If for some reason the receiving email server is off-line - as may be because of maintenance or sometimes internet congestion - the Apache server may register the non-delivery and send you a warning message. In general, this is nothing to worry about. Of course, if yo start getting many warning messages, there may be a hardware or software problem at the receiving end which needs investigation.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Messages to you from the users mailing list seem tohave been bouncing.
> I've attached a copy of the first bouncemessage I received.If this message
> bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces,I will remove
> your address from the users mailing list,without further notice.*
>
> I would like to know if I am still on the mailing list (I assume I am,
> since I get messages) and have not been removed. I am not sure why this
> happens.
>
> I signed up for the mailing list originally because I had the infamous MAC
> problem with the Save Stated Error. I have had other problems as well but
> fortunately so have others in this list and by reading the groups
> responses, I have managed to solve them.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruce Pierson
>
> *"The Department of Redundancy Department"*
--
Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>
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