Discussing a general release schedule was [Re: [VOTE] Agree on general release schedule/activities]

[Rolf Kulemann <ro...@apache.org>]

Michael Wechner wrote:
> Rolf Kulemann wrote:
> 
>> [Vote ends on 8.12.2004]
>>
>> Hi devs,
>>
>> Gregor and I put together a general release schedule and a plan for 
>> release activities. I want us to agree on that schedule in order to 
>> use it soon for the 1.2.1 release. This vote doesn't mean we can not 
>> change the schedule. We can enhance it iterative if needed.
>>
>> You can find the schedule at http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleaseHowTo.
>>
>> Here is my +1.
> 
> 
> 
> 0
> 
> I think it's important that we finally get this release done, that's why 
> I vote 0, otherwise I would vote -1, because I really don't understand 
> why testing MUST be at least 3 days. But I guess we can discuss that later.

Why not a t least 3 days? IMHO, this ensures a minimum level of quality.

The interesting thing is Michi, you had enough time the last days to 
discuss it, and I send lots of reminders. Fortunately I'm a patient 
person, as long as people do not waste my time due to ignorance. Also I 
do not like discussions in voting threads.

> 
> Some notes on the Release Schedule 
> http://wiki.apache.org/lenya/ReleaseHowTo
> (I don't change there anything, otherwise people might be a bit confused 
> in the end)
> 
> 1) it's not clear to me when the actual freeze will start. 7 days after 
> its announcement?

You should say that in the announcement.

> 
> 2) Item (3): During freeze nothing should be checked in, except 
> otherwise requested

That is my opinion too. I will fix that, but Gregor has another opinion.

> 
> 3) Item (5): I guess there it should say 4 instead of 7, right?

I will overwork the schedule re your issues, thanks for the comments.


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Re: Discussing a general release schedule was [Re: [VOTE] Agree on general release schedule/activities]

[Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>]

Rolf Kulemann wrote:

>>  testing MUST be at least 3 days. But I guess we can discuss that later.
>
>
> Why not a t least 3 days? IMHO, this ensures a minimum level of quality.


because I believe that it should be sufficient to have an appropriate 
checklist and that the stable branch is being continuously tested anyway 
during "maintenance development"

>
>
> The interesting thing is Michi, you had enough time the last days to 
> discuss it, and I send lots of reminders. Fortunately I'm a patient 
> person, as long as people do not waste my time due to ignorance.


that's certainly not the case, but rather certain family issues at 
nights and on the weekend ;-)


> Also I do not like discussions in voting threads.


me neither, but I wanted to explain why I voted 0. I am glad you 
started  a new thread

>
> That is my opinion too. I will fix that, but Gregor has another opinion.


so, I guess we should discuss it once more or at least for next time.

> I will overwork the schedule re your issues, thanks for the comments.


thanks as well

Michi

>
>


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