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Posted to dev@forrest.apache.org by Ferdinand Soethe <sa...@soethe.net> on 2005/05/17 13:08:27 UTC
Self-organized meet-ups / workshops at Apache Con 2005
I'd like to fix the dates of unofficial Forrest meet-ups at ApacheCon
2005 very soon so that people can schedule their travel accordingly.
As far as I can tell, we could have two separate meet-ups:
1. Workshop Forrest Views
with Thorsten explaining the concept and practical details of his
Forrest-Views and plenty of opportunity to ask questions.
My hope is that I will have a chance to understand Views after that
which means that we will address people with a limited
understanding of Forrest and Plug-ins.
Duration: ~ 2 hrs?
Questions:
- Thorsten:
= are you still willing to do this
= is my description of entry requirements correct
- All:
= can anybody suggest a place that is open for people
without conf registration (perhaps even has a beamer?)
= What evenings of the conference would you prefer to
have this meet-up
2. General Exchange on Forrest
an opportunity for Forrest users and developers to meet and have an
open exchange about Forrest. If we have enough people committed to
participating, we could/should we announce this meeting in our
Forrest session for interested people to join us.
Questions:
= can anybody suggest a place that is open for people
without conf registration (perhaps even has a beamer?)
= What evenings of the conference would you prefer to
have this meet-up
--
Ferdinand Soethe
Re: Self-organized meet-ups / workshops at Apache Con 2005
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
> I'd like to fix the dates of unofficial Forrest meet-ups at ApacheCon
> 2005 very soon so that people can schedule their travel accordingly.
>
> As far as I can tell, we could have two separate meet-ups:
I will be there for the full three days of the conference, possibly a
day before/after as well, so count me in.
Ross
Re: Self-organized meet-ups / workshops at Apache Con 2005
Posted by Ferdinand Soethe <sa...@soethe.net>.
Thanks for explaining the fluffy things :-)
David Crossley wrote:
> I don't know who to ask about either question.
> Start at http://www.apachecon.com/html/contact.html
well I'm still wayting for a response to questions that I asked in
March, but I'll give it another try.
--
Ferdinand Soethe
Re: Self-organized meet-ups / workshops at Apache Con 2005
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
>
> > Has anyone asked for a Birds-of-a-Feather session?
> > I am not sure if non-registrants are allowed there, but maybe.
> > Whatever, it would be a good chance for an extra meeting.
>
> I'm not familiar with them. What are they for ...
A place for people to gather and talk to each other
about the topic of the session, in this case Apache Forrest.
I think that it comes from the saying:
"Birds of a feather flock together".
Birds that have the same type of feathers, i.e. the same
interests, would gather and hang out with each other.
Almost all tech conferences have these sessions.
Usually there is no schedule, just a place to chat
with each other.
Anyway, see:
http://www.apachecon.com/2005/EU/html/sessions.html
> ...and who would you ask
> about having one and inviting non-registrants.
Keep these two issues separate. You want the session
anyway. If you can get non-registrants there, then that
is a bonus.
I don't know who to ask about either question.
Start at http://www.apachecon.com/html/contact.html
--David
Re: Self-organized meet-ups / workshops at Apache Con 2005
Posted by Ferdinand Soethe <sa...@soethe.net>.
David Crossley wrote:
> Has anyone asked for a Birds-of-a-Feather session?
> I am not sure if non-registrants are allowed there, but maybe.
> Whatever, it would be a good chance for an extra meeting.
I'm not familiar with them. What are they for and who would you ask
about having one and inviting non-registrants.
--
Ferdinand Soethe
Re: Self-organized meet-ups / workshops at Apache Con 2005
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Has anyone asked for a Birds-of-a-Feather session?
I am not sure if non-registrants are allowed there, but maybe.
Whatever, it would be a good chance for an extra meeting.
--David
Re: Self-organized meet-ups / workshops at Apache Con 2005
Posted by Ferdinand Soethe <sa...@soethe.net>.
Johannes Schaefer wrote:
> For me every evening is fine, except Tue. 19th: I'll
> do a presentation about Forrest (in German) at an
> informal meeting of usability professionals.
To be clear: The three days of the conference are July 20 to 22nd. So
we are talking about one of these evenings.
--
Ferdinand Soethe
Re: Self-organized meet-ups / workshops at Apache Con 2005
Posted by Johannes Schaefer <jo...@uidesign.de>.
I would be interested in joining both suggested meetings.
I'll have a look around if I can get a suitable room
(no promises, yet!).
For me every evening is fine, except Tue. 19th: I'll
do a presentation about Forrest (in German) at an
informal meeting of usability professionals.
Johannes
Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
> I'd like to fix the dates of unofficial Forrest meet-ups at ApacheCon
> 2005 very soon so that people can schedule their travel accordingly.
>
> As far as I can tell, we could have two separate meet-ups:
>
> 1. Workshop Forrest Views
>
> with Thorsten explaining the concept and practical details of his
> Forrest-Views and plenty of opportunity to ask questions.
>
> My hope is that I will have a chance to understand Views after that
> which means that we will address people with a limited
> understanding of Forrest and Plug-ins.
>
> Duration: ~ 2 hrs?
>
> Questions:
>
> - Thorsten:
>
> = are you still willing to do this
> = is my description of entry requirements correct
>
> - All:
>
> = can anybody suggest a place that is open for people
> without conf registration (perhaps even has a beamer?)
>
> = What evenings of the conference would you prefer to
> have this meet-up
>
> 2. General Exchange on Forrest
>
> an opportunity for Forrest users and developers to meet and have an
> open exchange about Forrest. If we have enough people committed to
> participating, we could/should we announce this meeting in our
> Forrest session for interested people to join us.
>
> Questions:
>
> = can anybody suggest a place that is open for people
> without conf registration (perhaps even has a beamer?)
>
> = What evenings of the conference would you prefer to
> have this meet-up
>
>
>
> --
> Ferdinand Soethe
>
>
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Re: Self-organized meet-ups / workshops at Apache Con 2005
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 10:54 +0200, Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
>
>
>
> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>
> > More or less. ;-) If I should explain a wee bit the plugin basics I used
> > for the view package then I guess +1 hour would be fine.
>
> Better make it two then (You'll need one hour just to answer all my stupid
> beginners questions :-))
>
You mean in total 4 hours?
...then I guess everybody will bring his laptop to the workshop? ;-)
...and if Ross can come to the workshop he can help talking about the
plugins as well. ;-)
salu2
--
thorsten
"Together we stand, divided we fall!"
Hey you (Pink Floyd)
Re: Self-organized meet-ups / workshops at Apache Con 2005
Posted by Ferdinand Soethe <sa...@soethe.net>.
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> More or less. ;-) If I should explain a wee bit the plugin basics I used
> for the view package then I guess +1 hour would be fine.
Better make it two then (You'll need one hour just to answer all my stupid
beginners questions :-))
--
Ferdinand Soethe
Re: Apache mail problem
Posted by Ferdinand Soethe <sa...@soethe.net>.
David Crossley wrote:
> Doing those mundane tasks will enable the ASF volunteers
> who do know about mail systems to get on with the job.
> Of course, they have have already been "thinking" about
> solutions and implementing. Otherwise we would still
> be in the grips of that mail storm. They dealt with it on IRC.
Thanks for that info. I didn't realize there were special volunteers
taking care of that. As it is they probably know much better what to
do ...
--
Ferdinand Soethe
Re: Apache mail problem
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
>
> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>
> > @all I think apache mail suffers from a worm called "sober". The next
> > attack is expected to happen in 10 days (around 26/27 May). It is once
> > again a windows only thing. More information (in German) can be found
> > http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/technologie/0,1518,356236,00.html.
>
> If Thorsten is correct about this (is he?), it is about time to start thinking
> about solutions.
That is correct. Apache handles huge volumes of email
and consequently huge volumes of this crap.
The ASF is a volunteer organisation. If you want to help
then join the infrastructure mailing list (ASF committers only).
http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-infrastructure
There is plenty that we can do to help, even if only to answer
the many questions that people ask and turn that into the
FAQ documentation at www.apache.org/dev/
Doing those mundane tasks will enable the ASF volunteers
who do know about mail systems to get on with the job.
Of course, they have have already been "thinking" about
solutions and implementing. Otherwise we would still
be in the grips of that mail storm. They dealt with it on IRC.
> Don't know about you (except for Nicola Ken who only
> reads mail once a day :-) but I'm not too happy about these delays and
> the perspective for this to happen a couple of times each month.
These delays over the last two days were wreaking havoc
on the opensource mailing lists. Answers to questions
were delayed, so more questions. The best thing to do
was to stop using email and get on with some local work
or go watch television, definitely not try to carry on
an email discussion :-)
I reckon that it is best not to commit to svn during such
a storm. Our trunk got broken twice yesterday, and people
could not immediately fix it.
--David
Apache mail problem (Was Re: Self-organized meet-ups / workshops at Apache Con 2005)
Posted by Ferdinand Soethe <sa...@soethe.net>.
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> @all I think apache mail suffers from a worm called "sober". The next
> attack is expected to happen in 10 days (around 26/27 May). It is once
> again a windows only thing. More information (in German) can be found
> http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/technologie/0,1518,356236,00.html.
If Thorsten is correct about this (is he?), it is about time to start thinking
about solutions. Don't know about you (except for Nicola Ken who only
reads mail once a day :-) but I'm not too happy about these delays and
the perspective for this to happen a couple of times each month.
--
Ferdinand Soethe
Re: Self-organized meet-ups / workshops at Apache Con 2005
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org>.
Sorry for replying so late, but this mail just reached me. See my reply
below.
[OT] Mails
@all I think apache mail suffers from a worm called "sober". The next
attack is expected to happen in 10 days (around 26/27 May). It is once
again a windows only thing. More information (in German) can be found
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/technologie/0,1518,356236,00.html.
On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 13:08 +0200, Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
> I'd like to fix the dates of unofficial Forrest meet-ups at ApacheCon
> 2005 very soon so that people can schedule their travel accordingly.
>
> As far as I can tell, we could have two separate meet-ups:
>
> 1. Workshop Forrest Views
>
> with Thorsten explaining the concept and practical details of his
> Forrest-Views and plenty of opportunity to ask questions.
>
> My hope is that I will have a chance to understand Views after that
> which means that we will address people with a limited
> understanding of Forrest and Plug-ins.
>
> Duration: ~ 2 hrs?
>
> Questions:
>
> - Thorsten:
>
> = are you still willing to do this
> = is my description of entry requirements correct
>
More or less. ;-) If I should explain a wee bit the plugin basics I used
for the view package then I guess +1 hour would be fine.
> - All:
>
> = can anybody suggest a place that is open for people
> without conf registration (perhaps even has a beamer?)
>
> = What evenings of the conference would you prefer to
> have this meet-up
>
> 2. General Exchange on Forrest
>
> an opportunity for Forrest users and developers to meet and have an
> open exchange about Forrest. If we have enough people committed to
> participating, we could/should we announce this meeting in our
> Forrest session for interested people to join us.
>
> Questions:
>
> = can anybody suggest a place that is open for people
> without conf registration (perhaps even has a beamer?)
>
> = What evenings of the conference would you prefer to
> have this meet-up
>
>
I guess the BOF thing would be nice.
salu2
--
thorsten
"Together we stand, divided we fall!"
Hey you (Pink Floyd)