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Posted to dev@slider.apache.org by Steve Loughran <st...@hortonworks.com> on 2015/03/19 17:20:03 UTC

[DISCUSS] SLIDER-799 terminology: escalate vs relax

I'm documenting the SLIDER-799 changes and its property names.

This is our chance to get terminology right.

Should I call the action of going from a specific host to "anywhere" one of

[] Escalation
[] Relaxation

I've been using 'escalation', but think 'relaxation' may be better, we can have properties like 'yarn.placement.relax.time.seconds'

Which do people prefer?

Or does anyone have a better term?

Re: [DISCUSS] SLIDER-799 terminology: escalate vs relax

Posted by Josh Elser <jo...@gmail.com>.
Makes sense to me.

Steve Loughran wrote:
> that's right.
>
> 'relax' defines the action —so explains what is happening.
>
>   Of course, 'escalate' defines why we are doing it -so would allow more flexibility in future for extra escalation policies (I can't think of any right now)
>
>> On 19 Mar 2015, at 16:48, Thomas Weise<th...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>> We are escalating the placement process because we cannot get the resource
>> we are looking for by means of relaxing the locality constraint.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Sumit Mohanty<sm...@hortonworks.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In conjunction with placement, relax seems more appropriate.
>>>
>>> Also, this feature is alluding to relaxing placement constraints.
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Steve Loughran<st...@hortonworks.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 9:20 AM
>>> To: dev@slider.incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] SLIDER-799 terminology: escalate vs relax
>>>
>>> I'm documenting the SLIDER-799 changes and its property names.
>>>
>>> This is our chance to get terminology right.
>>>
>>> Should I call the action of going from a specific host to "anywhere" one of
>>>
>>> [] Escalation
>>> [] Relaxation
>>>
>>> I've been using 'escalation', but think 'relaxation' may be better, we can
>>> have properties like 'yarn.placement.relax.time.seconds'
>>>
>>> Which do people prefer?
>>>
>>> Or does anyone have a better term?
>>>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] SLIDER-799 terminology: escalate vs relax

Posted by Steve Loughran <st...@hortonworks.com>.
that's right.

'relax' defines the action —so explains what is happening.

 Of course, 'escalate' defines why we are doing it -so would allow more flexibility in future for extra escalation policies (I can't think of any right now)

> On 19 Mar 2015, at 16:48, Thomas Weise <th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> We are escalating the placement process because we cannot get the resource
> we are looking for by means of relaxing the locality constraint.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Sumit Mohanty <sm...@hortonworks.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> In conjunction with placement, relax seems more appropriate.
>> 
>> Also, this feature is alluding to relaxing placement constraints.
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Steve Loughran <st...@hortonworks.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 9:20 AM
>> To: dev@slider.incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: [DISCUSS] SLIDER-799 terminology: escalate vs relax
>> 
>> I'm documenting the SLIDER-799 changes and its property names.
>> 
>> This is our chance to get terminology right.
>> 
>> Should I call the action of going from a specific host to "anywhere" one of
>> 
>> [] Escalation
>> [] Relaxation
>> 
>> I've been using 'escalation', but think 'relaxation' may be better, we can
>> have properties like 'yarn.placement.relax.time.seconds'
>> 
>> Which do people prefer?
>> 
>> Or does anyone have a better term?
>> 


Re: [DISCUSS] SLIDER-799 terminology: escalate vs relax

Posted by Thomas Weise <th...@gmail.com>.
We are escalating the placement process because we cannot get the resource
we are looking for by means of relaxing the locality constraint.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Sumit Mohanty <sm...@hortonworks.com>
wrote:

> In conjunction with placement, relax seems more appropriate.
>
> Also, this feature is alluding to relaxing placement constraints.
> ________________________________________
> From: Steve Loughran <st...@hortonworks.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 9:20 AM
> To: dev@slider.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSS] SLIDER-799 terminology: escalate vs relax
>
> I'm documenting the SLIDER-799 changes and its property names.
>
> This is our chance to get terminology right.
>
> Should I call the action of going from a specific host to "anywhere" one of
>
> [] Escalation
> [] Relaxation
>
> I've been using 'escalation', but think 'relaxation' may be better, we can
> have properties like 'yarn.placement.relax.time.seconds'
>
> Which do people prefer?
>
> Or does anyone have a better term?
>

Re: [DISCUSS] SLIDER-799 terminology: escalate vs relax

Posted by Sumit Mohanty <sm...@hortonworks.com>.
In conjunction with placement, relax seems more appropriate. 

Also, this feature is alluding to relaxing placement constraints.
________________________________________
From: Steve Loughran <st...@hortonworks.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 9:20 AM
To: dev@slider.incubator.apache.org
Subject: [DISCUSS] SLIDER-799 terminology: escalate vs relax

I'm documenting the SLIDER-799 changes and its property names.

This is our chance to get terminology right.

Should I call the action of going from a specific host to "anywhere" one of

[] Escalation
[] Relaxation

I've been using 'escalation', but think 'relaxation' may be better, we can have properties like 'yarn.placement.relax.time.seconds'

Which do people prefer?

Or does anyone have a better term?