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Semantic Web driven Business Integration via ESB
Our attempt is to build a systems integration framework which leverages the
possibilities of different datasources with different schema and different
services with different APIs to interact with each other in a called
"Business Domain Integration of Problem spaces".
For example, there could be DBs regarding customers, services regarding
orders and an ERP handling inventory tasks, each from a different
organization or business.
The task in hand is to leverage the 'semantic' capabilities of the Semantic
Web in order to being able to build 'metamodels' which abstract
interactions of components from their underlying platforms, treating
different source components in the same way due to Functional Programming
techniques.
This is possible of being achieved de-aggregating everything into its
constituent parts and performing sorts of 'alignments' between
corresponding parts at each level (schema / instances of data, information
and knowledge) of, for example: DB tables, columns, rows, services
behaviors, etc.
The point is that Apache ServiceMix / JBoss Fuse seems as an ideal platform
for this endeavor. As I have no prior experience in these products I ask
myself if I'll be able to construct the necessary custom routing (reactive)
components for this layering of models and also a custom OSGi blueprint
namespace for ease of declarative implementation of solutions.
As far as the project goes there is only a bunch of documents into a GitHub
repository while we finish the analysis and design phase. Please consider
that we are looking for help into the right manner to implement this
'correctly' on these platforms.
Our current 'work' is available at:
https://www.github.com/CognescentBI/BISemantics
Thanks in advance. Best,
Sebastián Samaruga
---
http://exampledotorg.blogspot.com.ar/2017/09/hi-everyone-im-
sebastian-software.html
Re: Semantic Web driven Business Integration via ESB
Posted by Corrado Campisano <co...@gmail.com>.
Hi Sebastien,
I'd start by defining/developing/testing the "ontology for business" you
may want to use,
using a tool like Protege' or TopBraid Composer.
Once you have a working ontology, that has to be "hard coded" in universaal.
Regards,
Corrado.
2017-11-12 0:47 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Samaruga <ss...@gmail.com>:
> Please let me know 'how' those joint efforts could be materialized.
> Regards.
>
> Best,
> Sebastián Samaruga
> ---
> http://exampledotorg.blogspot.com.ar
>
>
> On Nov 10, 2017 8:36 AM, "Corrado Campisano" <co...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Seb,
> >
> > universaal comes with a data/service homologation,
> > as appropriate elements in the (shared) ontology
> > <https://github.com/universAAL/ontology>
> > shall be defined first, before they can be used.
> >
> > At the moment only ontology elements for "personal/health assistance"
> > and for "measuring/acting (IOT)" have been created, since that was the
> > project objective, while nothing is there for any business-oriented task.
> >
> >
> > For example, some time ago I asked them to include the Dublin core
> ontology
> > <https://github.com/universAAL/ontology/issues/5>,
> > so that "my digital documents" (bills, tickets, bank statements,
> contracts,
> > etc),
> > could be "handled" by the platform, semantically, not like dspace
> > <http://www.dspace.org/> does,
> > and semantically for real, not like openKM <https://www.openkm.com/>
> does.
> >
> >
> > So, once you have your specialized ontology in place,
> > then you can build "semantic" clients & servers, and
> > also "semantic" event notification producers & listeners:
> > all will go on the bus and be "routed" semantically.
> >
> >
> > Now, the whole platform runs on Karaf OSGi container,
> > which is the same engine Servicemix runs on,
> > but smix itself has no semantic technology in it.
> >
> > So, the "joint effort" could be for you to avoid reinventing the wheel,
> > such as adding a semantic engine to servicemix, which uAAL did already,
> > and work on implementing the "business pieces" uAAL misses.
> >
> >
> >
> > PS: it is not "my" project, you know, I'm just quite interested.
> >
> > UAAL has been funded (2 million eur) by the European Union first,
> > now there's people from top EU research institutions:
> > http://www.universaal.info/blog/post/4873/The-launch-of-
> > The-universAAL-IoT-Coalition/
> >
> >
> > Let me know.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Corrado.
> >
> >
> > 2017-11-10 3:05 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Samaruga <ss...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'll be taking a look at your project. Seems like you'd like to
> > everything
> > > be 'pluggable'. That maybe sounds familiar to me but my approach is to
> > > homologate data and services (without they knowing they are being
> > > 'plugged').
> > >
> > > Are you using a specialized containerized / OS for wrapping 'things'
> up?
> > > P2P (for IoT)?
> > >
> > > Which kind of 'joint efforts' do you think could be possible? I'm in a
> > very
> > > early analysis stage for the platform I would like to build. My
> > preliminary
> > > (early) drafts and documentation are in:
> > >
> > > https://github.com/CognescentBI/BISemantics
> > >
> > > Being Document.pdf in the code section the most up to date element.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Sebastián Samaruga
> > > ---
> > > http://exampledotorg.blogspot.com.ar
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 5, 2017 3:45 AM, "Corrado Campisano" <
> corrado.campisano@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Sebastián,
> > >
> > > take a look at *universaal* then:
> > >
> > > is based on karaf container
> > > (which was born from servicemix)
> > > and works with ontologies
> > >
> > > http://www.universaal.info/
> > > https://github.com/universAAL
> > >
> > >
> > > (EU invested 2M in this)
> > >
> > >
> > > copying universaaal dev-list
> > >
> > > maybe you want join efforts
> > >
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > corrado
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2017-11-05 2:55 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Samaruga <ss...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > Our attempt is to build a systems integration framework which
> leverages
> > > the
> > > > possibilities of different datasources with different schema and
> > > different
> > > > services with different APIs to interact with each other in a called
> > > > "Business Domain Integration of Problem spaces".
> > > >
> > > > For example, there could be DBs regarding customers, services
> regarding
> > > > orders and an ERP handling inventory tasks, each from a different
> > > > organization or business.
> > > >
> > > > The task in hand is to leverage the 'semantic' capabilities of the
> > > Semantic
> > > > Web in order to being able to build 'metamodels' which abstract
> > > > interactions of components from their underlying platforms, treating
> > > > different source components in the same way due to Functional
> > Programming
> > > > techniques.
> > > >
> > > > This is possible of being achieved de-aggregating everything into its
> > > > constituent parts and performing sorts of 'alignments' between
> > > > corresponding parts at each level (schema / instances of data,
> > > information
> > > > and knowledge) of, for example: DB tables, columns, rows, services
> > > > behaviors, etc.
> > > >
> > > > The point is that Apache ServiceMix / JBoss Fuse seems as an ideal
> > > platform
> > > > for this endeavor. As I have no prior experience in these products I
> > ask
> > > > myself if I'll be able to construct the necessary custom routing
> > > (reactive)
> > > > components for this layering of models and also a custom OSGi
> blueprint
> > > > namespace for ease of declarative implementation of solutions.
> > > >
> > > > As far as the project goes there is only a bunch of documents into a
> > > GitHub
> > > > repository while we finish the analysis and design phase. Please
> > consider
> > > > that we are looking for help into the right manner to implement this
> > > > 'correctly' on these platforms.
> > > >
> > > > Our current 'work' is available at:
> > > > https://www.github.com/CognescentBI/BISemantics
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance. Best,
> > > > Sebastián Samaruga
> > > > ---
> > > > http://exampledotorg.blogspot.com.ar/2017/09/hi-everyone-im-
> > > > sebastian-software.html
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Semantic Web driven Business Integration via ESB
Posted by Sebastian Samaruga <ss...@gmail.com>.
Please let me know 'how' those joint efforts could be materialized. Regards.
Best,
Sebastián Samaruga
---
http://exampledotorg.blogspot.com.ar
On Nov 10, 2017 8:36 AM, "Corrado Campisano" <co...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Seb,
>
> universaal comes with a data/service homologation,
> as appropriate elements in the (shared) ontology
> <https://github.com/universAAL/ontology>
> shall be defined first, before they can be used.
>
> At the moment only ontology elements for "personal/health assistance"
> and for "measuring/acting (IOT)" have been created, since that was the
> project objective, while nothing is there for any business-oriented task.
>
>
> For example, some time ago I asked them to include the Dublin core ontology
> <https://github.com/universAAL/ontology/issues/5>,
> so that "my digital documents" (bills, tickets, bank statements, contracts,
> etc),
> could be "handled" by the platform, semantically, not like dspace
> <http://www.dspace.org/> does,
> and semantically for real, not like openKM <https://www.openkm.com/> does.
>
>
> So, once you have your specialized ontology in place,
> then you can build "semantic" clients & servers, and
> also "semantic" event notification producers & listeners:
> all will go on the bus and be "routed" semantically.
>
>
> Now, the whole platform runs on Karaf OSGi container,
> which is the same engine Servicemix runs on,
> but smix itself has no semantic technology in it.
>
> So, the "joint effort" could be for you to avoid reinventing the wheel,
> such as adding a semantic engine to servicemix, which uAAL did already,
> and work on implementing the "business pieces" uAAL misses.
>
>
>
> PS: it is not "my" project, you know, I'm just quite interested.
>
> UAAL has been funded (2 million eur) by the European Union first,
> now there's people from top EU research institutions:
> http://www.universaal.info/blog/post/4873/The-launch-of-
> The-universAAL-IoT-Coalition/
>
>
> Let me know.
>
>
> Regards,
> Corrado.
>
>
> 2017-11-10 3:05 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Samaruga <ss...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'll be taking a look at your project. Seems like you'd like to
> everything
> > be 'pluggable'. That maybe sounds familiar to me but my approach is to
> > homologate data and services (without they knowing they are being
> > 'plugged').
> >
> > Are you using a specialized containerized / OS for wrapping 'things' up?
> > P2P (for IoT)?
> >
> > Which kind of 'joint efforts' do you think could be possible? I'm in a
> very
> > early analysis stage for the platform I would like to build. My
> preliminary
> > (early) drafts and documentation are in:
> >
> > https://github.com/CognescentBI/BISemantics
> >
> > Being Document.pdf in the code section the most up to date element.
> >
> > Best,
> > Sebastián Samaruga
> > ---
> > http://exampledotorg.blogspot.com.ar
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 5, 2017 3:45 AM, "Corrado Campisano" <corrado.campisano@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sebastián,
> >
> > take a look at *universaal* then:
> >
> > is based on karaf container
> > (which was born from servicemix)
> > and works with ontologies
> >
> > http://www.universaal.info/
> > https://github.com/universAAL
> >
> >
> > (EU invested 2M in this)
> >
> >
> > copying universaaal dev-list
> >
> > maybe you want join efforts
> >
> >
> > cheers,
> > corrado
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2017-11-05 2:55 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Samaruga <ss...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Our attempt is to build a systems integration framework which leverages
> > the
> > > possibilities of different datasources with different schema and
> > different
> > > services with different APIs to interact with each other in a called
> > > "Business Domain Integration of Problem spaces".
> > >
> > > For example, there could be DBs regarding customers, services regarding
> > > orders and an ERP handling inventory tasks, each from a different
> > > organization or business.
> > >
> > > The task in hand is to leverage the 'semantic' capabilities of the
> > Semantic
> > > Web in order to being able to build 'metamodels' which abstract
> > > interactions of components from their underlying platforms, treating
> > > different source components in the same way due to Functional
> Programming
> > > techniques.
> > >
> > > This is possible of being achieved de-aggregating everything into its
> > > constituent parts and performing sorts of 'alignments' between
> > > corresponding parts at each level (schema / instances of data,
> > information
> > > and knowledge) of, for example: DB tables, columns, rows, services
> > > behaviors, etc.
> > >
> > > The point is that Apache ServiceMix / JBoss Fuse seems as an ideal
> > platform
> > > for this endeavor. As I have no prior experience in these products I
> ask
> > > myself if I'll be able to construct the necessary custom routing
> > (reactive)
> > > components for this layering of models and also a custom OSGi blueprint
> > > namespace for ease of declarative implementation of solutions.
> > >
> > > As far as the project goes there is only a bunch of documents into a
> > GitHub
> > > repository while we finish the analysis and design phase. Please
> consider
> > > that we are looking for help into the right manner to implement this
> > > 'correctly' on these platforms.
> > >
> > > Our current 'work' is available at:
> > > https://www.github.com/CognescentBI/BISemantics
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance. Best,
> > > Sebastián Samaruga
> > > ---
> > > http://exampledotorg.blogspot.com.ar/2017/09/hi-everyone-im-
> > > sebastian-software.html
> > >
> >
>
Re: Semantic Web driven Business Integration via ESB
Posted by Corrado Campisano <co...@gmail.com>.
Hi Seb,
universaal comes with a data/service homologation,
as appropriate elements in the (shared) ontology
<https://github.com/universAAL/ontology>
shall be defined first, before they can be used.
At the moment only ontology elements for "personal/health assistance"
and for "measuring/acting (IOT)" have been created, since that was the
project objective, while nothing is there for any business-oriented task.
For example, some time ago I asked them to include the Dublin core ontology
<https://github.com/universAAL/ontology/issues/5>,
so that "my digital documents" (bills, tickets, bank statements, contracts,
etc),
could be "handled" by the platform, semantically, not like dspace
<http://www.dspace.org/> does,
and semantically for real, not like openKM <https://www.openkm.com/> does.
So, once you have your specialized ontology in place,
then you can build "semantic" clients & servers, and
also "semantic" event notification producers & listeners:
all will go on the bus and be "routed" semantically.
Now, the whole platform runs on Karaf OSGi container,
which is the same engine Servicemix runs on,
but smix itself has no semantic technology in it.
So, the "joint effort" could be for you to avoid reinventing the wheel,
such as adding a semantic engine to servicemix, which uAAL did already,
and work on implementing the "business pieces" uAAL misses.
PS: it is not "my" project, you know, I'm just quite interested.
UAAL has been funded (2 million eur) by the European Union first,
now there's people from top EU research institutions:
http://www.universaal.info/blog/post/4873/The-launch-of-The-universAAL-IoT-Coalition/
Let me know.
Regards,
Corrado.
2017-11-10 3:05 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Samaruga <ss...@gmail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> I'll be taking a look at your project. Seems like you'd like to everything
> be 'pluggable'. That maybe sounds familiar to me but my approach is to
> homologate data and services (without they knowing they are being
> 'plugged').
>
> Are you using a specialized containerized / OS for wrapping 'things' up?
> P2P (for IoT)?
>
> Which kind of 'joint efforts' do you think could be possible? I'm in a very
> early analysis stage for the platform I would like to build. My preliminary
> (early) drafts and documentation are in:
>
> https://github.com/CognescentBI/BISemantics
>
> Being Document.pdf in the code section the most up to date element.
>
> Best,
> Sebastián Samaruga
> ---
> http://exampledotorg.blogspot.com.ar
>
>
>
> On Nov 5, 2017 3:45 AM, "Corrado Campisano" <co...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Sebastián,
>
> take a look at *universaal* then:
>
> is based on karaf container
> (which was born from servicemix)
> and works with ontologies
>
> http://www.universaal.info/
> https://github.com/universAAL
>
>
> (EU invested 2M in this)
>
>
> copying universaaal dev-list
>
> maybe you want join efforts
>
>
> cheers,
> corrado
>
>
>
>
>
> 2017-11-05 2:55 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Samaruga <ss...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Our attempt is to build a systems integration framework which leverages
> the
> > possibilities of different datasources with different schema and
> different
> > services with different APIs to interact with each other in a called
> > "Business Domain Integration of Problem spaces".
> >
> > For example, there could be DBs regarding customers, services regarding
> > orders and an ERP handling inventory tasks, each from a different
> > organization or business.
> >
> > The task in hand is to leverage the 'semantic' capabilities of the
> Semantic
> > Web in order to being able to build 'metamodels' which abstract
> > interactions of components from their underlying platforms, treating
> > different source components in the same way due to Functional Programming
> > techniques.
> >
> > This is possible of being achieved de-aggregating everything into its
> > constituent parts and performing sorts of 'alignments' between
> > corresponding parts at each level (schema / instances of data,
> information
> > and knowledge) of, for example: DB tables, columns, rows, services
> > behaviors, etc.
> >
> > The point is that Apache ServiceMix / JBoss Fuse seems as an ideal
> platform
> > for this endeavor. As I have no prior experience in these products I ask
> > myself if I'll be able to construct the necessary custom routing
> (reactive)
> > components for this layering of models and also a custom OSGi blueprint
> > namespace for ease of declarative implementation of solutions.
> >
> > As far as the project goes there is only a bunch of documents into a
> GitHub
> > repository while we finish the analysis and design phase. Please consider
> > that we are looking for help into the right manner to implement this
> > 'correctly' on these platforms.
> >
> > Our current 'work' is available at:
> > https://www.github.com/CognescentBI/BISemantics
> >
> > Thanks in advance. Best,
> > Sebastián Samaruga
> > ---
> > http://exampledotorg.blogspot.com.ar/2017/09/hi-everyone-im-
> > sebastian-software.html
> >
>
Re: Semantic Web driven Business Integration via ESB
Posted by Sebastian Samaruga <ss...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I'll be taking a look at your project. Seems like you'd like to everything
be 'pluggable'. That maybe sounds familiar to me but my approach is to
homologate data and services (without they knowing they are being
'plugged').
Are you using a specialized containerized / OS for wrapping 'things' up?
P2P (for IoT)?
Which kind of 'joint efforts' do you think could be possible? I'm in a very
early analysis stage for the platform I would like to build. My preliminary
(early) drafts and documentation are in:
https://github.com/CognescentBI/BISemantics
Being Document.pdf in the code section the most up to date element.
Best,
Sebastián Samaruga
---
http://exampledotorg.blogspot.com.ar
On Nov 5, 2017 3:45 AM, "Corrado Campisano" <co...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Sebastián,
take a look at *universaal* then:
is based on karaf container
(which was born from servicemix)
and works with ontologies
http://www.universaal.info/
https://github.com/universAAL
(EU invested 2M in this)
copying universaaal dev-list
maybe you want join efforts
cheers,
corrado
2017-11-05 2:55 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Samaruga <ss...@gmail.com>:
> Our attempt is to build a systems integration framework which leverages
the
> possibilities of different datasources with different schema and different
> services with different APIs to interact with each other in a called
> "Business Domain Integration of Problem spaces".
>
> For example, there could be DBs regarding customers, services regarding
> orders and an ERP handling inventory tasks, each from a different
> organization or business.
>
> The task in hand is to leverage the 'semantic' capabilities of the
Semantic
> Web in order to being able to build 'metamodels' which abstract
> interactions of components from their underlying platforms, treating
> different source components in the same way due to Functional Programming
> techniques.
>
> This is possible of being achieved de-aggregating everything into its
> constituent parts and performing sorts of 'alignments' between
> corresponding parts at each level (schema / instances of data, information
> and knowledge) of, for example: DB tables, columns, rows, services
> behaviors, etc.
>
> The point is that Apache ServiceMix / JBoss Fuse seems as an ideal
platform
> for this endeavor. As I have no prior experience in these products I ask
> myself if I'll be able to construct the necessary custom routing
(reactive)
> components for this layering of models and also a custom OSGi blueprint
> namespace for ease of declarative implementation of solutions.
>
> As far as the project goes there is only a bunch of documents into a
GitHub
> repository while we finish the analysis and design phase. Please consider
> that we are looking for help into the right manner to implement this
> 'correctly' on these platforms.
>
> Our current 'work' is available at:
> https://www.github.com/CognescentBI/BISemantics
>
> Thanks in advance. Best,
> Sebastián Samaruga
> ---
> http://exampledotorg.blogspot.com.ar/2017/09/hi-everyone-im-
> sebastian-software.html
>
Re: Semantic Web driven Business Integration via ESB
Posted by Corrado Campisano <co...@gmail.com>.
Hi Sebastián,
take a look at *universaal* then:
is based on karaf container
(which was born from servicemix)
and works with ontologies
http://www.universaal.info/
https://github.com/universAAL
(EU invested 2M in this)
copying universaaal dev-list
maybe you want join efforts
cheers,
corrado
2017-11-05 2:55 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Samaruga <ss...@gmail.com>:
> Our attempt is to build a systems integration framework which leverages the
> possibilities of different datasources with different schema and different
> services with different APIs to interact with each other in a called
> "Business Domain Integration of Problem spaces".
>
> For example, there could be DBs regarding customers, services regarding
> orders and an ERP handling inventory tasks, each from a different
> organization or business.
>
> The task in hand is to leverage the 'semantic' capabilities of the Semantic
> Web in order to being able to build 'metamodels' which abstract
> interactions of components from their underlying platforms, treating
> different source components in the same way due to Functional Programming
> techniques.
>
> This is possible of being achieved de-aggregating everything into its
> constituent parts and performing sorts of 'alignments' between
> corresponding parts at each level (schema / instances of data, information
> and knowledge) of, for example: DB tables, columns, rows, services
> behaviors, etc.
>
> The point is that Apache ServiceMix / JBoss Fuse seems as an ideal platform
> for this endeavor. As I have no prior experience in these products I ask
> myself if I'll be able to construct the necessary custom routing (reactive)
> components for this layering of models and also a custom OSGi blueprint
> namespace for ease of declarative implementation of solutions.
>
> As far as the project goes there is only a bunch of documents into a GitHub
> repository while we finish the analysis and design phase. Please consider
> that we are looking for help into the right manner to implement this
> 'correctly' on these platforms.
>
> Our current 'work' is available at:
> https://www.github.com/CognescentBI/BISemantics
>
> Thanks in advance. Best,
> Sebastián Samaruga
> ---
> http://exampledotorg.blogspot.com.ar/2017/09/hi-everyone-im-
> sebastian-software.html
>