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Fastest Platform (softwarewise)?
Hi,
I am running on Apache on Linux. What is the fastest Software-Platform for
the Java-Part. At the moment I am using Apache-JServ with Linux-JDK 1.1.8.
I am currently not using a JIT. So should I use Tomcat/Another JDK/a JIT?
Konstantin
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Re: Fastest Platform (softwarewise)?
Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@apache.org>.
Konstantin Agouros wrote:
>
> Like I said I was thinking more in Terms of which JDK (IBM, Blackdown,...)
> and which Java-Version. I can not move away from Linux.
You may have to make your choice on which is the most stable for your platform.
To that end, I recommend the Blackdown JDK.
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RE: Fastest Platform (softwarewise)?
Posted by Mark Ayad <ma...@ogilvy.net>.
Hi Guys
check out
http://www.volano.com/report/
Regards
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Konstantin Agouros [mailto:Konstantin.Agouros@netage.de]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 3:23 PM
To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
Subject: Re: Fastest Platform (softwarewise)?
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 07:25:07AM +1000, Phil Blake wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We run apache/tomcat/cocoon on 3 server platforms, Linux, AIX and MacOS
> X.
>
> Linux on a dual PIII 550, OSX on a PPC-G4 450 and AIX on a 4x250MHz
> PPC-G3.
>
> Bang for buck, a G4 running OSX wins hands down. However, believe it or
> not, the dual PIII comes in second (AIX don't come close... too
> expensive for real consideration and Windows is not a server operating
> system in practice, only in marketing).
>
> The Dual PIII was about 10% more than the G4 (after adding SCSI) and
> about 70-80% the performance.
>
> Although theory has it that a G4 500MHz has about the same performance
> as a PIII 1.5GHz (ie triple the performance), I've found that it's
> really more like double the performance, not triple.
Like I said I was thinking more in Terms of which JDK (IBM, Blackdown,...)
and which Java-Version. I can not move away from Linux.
Cheers,
Konstantin
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Re: Fastest Platform (softwarewise)?
Posted by Konstantin Agouros <Ko...@netage.de>.
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 07:25:07AM +1000, Phil Blake wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We run apache/tomcat/cocoon on 3 server platforms, Linux, AIX and MacOS
> X.
>
> Linux on a dual PIII 550, OSX on a PPC-G4 450 and AIX on a 4x250MHz
> PPC-G3.
>
> Bang for buck, a G4 running OSX wins hands down. However, believe it or
> not, the dual PIII comes in second (AIX don't come close... too
> expensive for real consideration and Windows is not a server operating
> system in practice, only in marketing).
>
> The Dual PIII was about 10% more than the G4 (after adding SCSI) and
> about 70-80% the performance.
>
> Although theory has it that a G4 500MHz has about the same performance
> as a PIII 1.5GHz (ie triple the performance), I've found that it's
> really more like double the performance, not triple.
Like I said I was thinking more in Terms of which JDK (IBM, Blackdown,...)
and which Java-Version. I can not move away from Linux.
Cheers,
Konstantin
--
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Tel.: 089 666584-0, Fax: 089 666584-11, Email: Konstantin.Agouros@netage.de
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Re: "The sitemap handler's sitemap is not available" error
Posted by Sylvain Wallez <sy...@anyware-tech.com>.
"Truong,Hoang C." a écrit :
>
> Hi everyone,
> I got this error "The sitemap handler's sitemap is not available". I am
> running jakarta-tomcat-4.0.1, cocoon2, redhat7.1 Could anyone tell me
> what wrong? What can I do to fix this? Thanks.
>
> Hoang
>
You should check the logs in WEB-INF/logs, which contain detailed
information about the cause of this error (search for stacktraces).
Note that the latest Cocoon 2 CVS displays the full reason on screen so
you don't have to search the logs.
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Re: "The sitemap handler's sitemap is not available" error
Posted by "Truong,Hoang C." <ht...@mitre.org>.
Hi Karl,
Here it is. Please let me know if you see something wrong. Thanks.
Hoang
Cocoon 2 - Internal server error
type internal-server-error
message The sitemap handler's sitemap is not available.
description org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException: The sitemap handler's
sitemap is not available.
sender org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet
source Cocoon servlet
request-uri
/cocoon/
exception
org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException: The sitemap handler's sitemap is
not available.
path-info
stacktrace
org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException: The sitemap handler's sitemap is
not available.
at
org.apache.cocoon.sitemap.Manager.setupProcessing(Manager.java:179)
at org.apache.cocoon.sitemap.Manager.invoke(Manager.java:93)
at org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon.process(Cocoon.java:293)
at
org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet.service(CocoonServlet.java:471)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:247)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:193)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:243)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:566)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:472)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:943)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:201)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:566)
at
org.apache.catalina.valves.CertificatesValve.invoke(CertificatesValve.java:246)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:564)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:472)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:943)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.invoke(StandardContext.java:2344)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:164)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:566)
at
org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorDispatcherValve.invoke(ErrorDispatcherValve.java:170)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:564)
at
org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:170)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:564)
at
org.apache.catalina.valves.AccessLogValve.invoke(AccessLogValve.java:462)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:564)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:472)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:943)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java:163)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNext(StandardPipeline.java:566)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:472)
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:943)
at
org.apache.catalina.connector.http.HttpProcessor.process(HttpProcessor.java:1011)
at
org.apache.catalina.connector.http.HttpProcessor.run(HttpProcessor.java:1106)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)
Karl Oie wrote:
>
> plase give a stacktrace aswell as "The sitemap handler's sitemap is not
> available" is to general.
>
> if you have things like "x11" in the stacktrace it's the known batik&x11
> problem with awt, read the FAQ at xml.apache.org/cocoon2, if the stacktrace
> doesn't contain x11 then then read carefully the FAQ about setting up
> Cocoon2 with tomcat3/4, and if that doesn't help, post the stacktrace :-)
>
> mvh karl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Truong,Hoang C. [mailto:htruong@mitre.org]
> Sent: 23. oktober 2001 15:35
> To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> Subject: "The sitemap handler's sitemap is not available" error
>
> Hi everyone,
> I got this error "The sitemap handler's sitemap is not available". I am
> running jakarta-tomcat-4.0.1, cocoon2, redhat7.1 Could anyone tell me
> what wrong? What can I do to fix this? Thanks.
>
> Hoang
>
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RE: "The sitemap handler's sitemap is not available" error
Posted by Karl Oie <ka...@gan.no>.
plase give a stacktrace aswell as "The sitemap handler's sitemap is not
available" is to general.
if you have things like "x11" in the stacktrace it's the known batik&x11
problem with awt, read the FAQ at xml.apache.org/cocoon2, if the stacktrace
doesn't contain x11 then then read carefully the FAQ about setting up
Cocoon2 with tomcat3/4, and if that doesn't help, post the stacktrace :-)
mvh karl
-----Original Message-----
From: Truong,Hoang C. [mailto:htruong@mitre.org]
Sent: 23. oktober 2001 15:35
To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
Subject: "The sitemap handler's sitemap is not available" error
Hi everyone,
I got this error "The sitemap handler's sitemap is not available". I am
running jakarta-tomcat-4.0.1, cocoon2, redhat7.1 Could anyone tell me
what wrong? What can I do to fix this? Thanks.
Hoang
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"The sitemap handler's sitemap is not available" error
Posted by "Truong,Hoang C." <ht...@mitre.org>.
Hi everyone,
I got this error "The sitemap handler's sitemap is not available". I am
running jakarta-tomcat-4.0.1, cocoon2, redhat7.1 Could anyone tell me
what wrong? What can I do to fix this? Thanks.
Hoang
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Re: Fastest Platform (softwarewise)?
Posted by Phil Blake <ph...@tcp.net.au>.
>> Bang for buck, a G4 running OSX wins hands down. However, believe it or
>> not, the dual PIII comes in second (AIX don't come close... too
>> expensive for real consideration and Windows is not a server operating
>> system in practice, only in marketing).
>
> That's interesting, I didn't think OSX would come out on top--maybe
> second
> though. As to AIX, and this goes for Solaris as well, they are very
> expensive--so bang for the buck goes down. How about raw performance
> though? Which comes out on top?
OSX does just over AIX (but this is not really fair as OSX is running on
a year old G4 whereas AIX is on a 10 year old J50). The J50 is mainly
our database machine and it's far better at that than web serving.
>
>> The Dual PIII was about 10% more than the G4 (after adding SCSI) and
>> about 70-80% the performance.
>
> So for 10% more cost you gain 70-80% more speed. That is a reasonable
> tradeoff. What kinds of tests did you run? How does each one scale
> (as you add more clients). How many simultaneous connections can each
> platform handle before you reach saturation?
A series of load tests showed the PIII delivered between 70-80% of the
total requests delivered from OSX in the same time.
There are a couple of sites served by the test machines, static and
dynamic with connections to an Object database and a SQL database. The
tests were 'typical usage' tests with a script making requests for
documents in a similar way the people using the site only much faster. :)
They included database searches, updates and deletes so that time was
considered separately.
The script allows us to 'simulate' the number of users and our testing
was with 50 concurrent users. I've found that 50 concurrent/simultaneous
users equates to about 150-200 real users - which is well above what we
are expecting.
>> Although theory has it that a G4 500MHz has about the same performance
>> as a PIII 1.5GHz (ie triple the performance), I've found that it's
>> really more like double the performance, not triple.
>
> Careful there. Clockrate != performance. When all things are equal
> (i.e. chip architecture, design, etc.), then clockrate is effective
> to determine relative performance increases. However, the G4 and the
> PIII have very different architectures. This is true of the PIII and
> the P4, and the P4 and the K7. In that case 1.5GHz in all three
> processors would have very different performance results. As far as
> I know, the G4 is not capable of the high clockrates, so it makes up
> for it with an efficient pipeline. The pentium series was designed
> for high clockrates.
Yeah, absolutely. Clock speed certainly has nothing to do with
performance. I learnt that very quickly with an RS6000 - the
architecture is so bloody good that it manages to get a heap more done
than a Mac (same processor, memory, disc, etc). Certainly chip
architecture, and even more importantly machine architecture, plays the
biggest role in getting the job done. Lastly, software design can suck
out any performance that the hardware can give you.
Run linux on a top model GenericPC or a top model Netfinity. All things
being equal (cpu, memory, dics, etc) the Netfinity will outperform the
Generic. Why? It's been built well. But run windows on them both... no
perceivable difference. Why? Poorly written software will turn even the
best hardware into a dog.
Regardless, it looks like I missed the point of the question in the
first place, so I think i'll leave it here. :)
Thanks. Have fun,
Phil
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Re: Fastest Platform (softwarewise)?
Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@apache.org>.
Phil Blake wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> We run apache/tomcat/cocoon on 3 server platforms, Linux, AIX and MacOS
> X.
>
> Linux on a dual PIII 550, OSX on a PPC-G4 450 and AIX on a 4x250MHz
> PPC-G3.
>
> Bang for buck, a G4 running OSX wins hands down. However, believe it or
> not, the dual PIII comes in second (AIX don't come close... too
> expensive for real consideration and Windows is not a server operating
> system in practice, only in marketing).
That's interesting, I didn't think OSX would come out on top--maybe second
though. As to AIX, and this goes for Solaris as well, they are very
expensive--so bang for the buck goes down. How about raw performance
though? Which comes out on top?
> The Dual PIII was about 10% more than the G4 (after adding SCSI) and
> about 70-80% the performance.
So for 10% more cost you gain 70-80% more speed. That is a reasonable
tradeoff. What kinds of tests did you run? How does each one scale
(as you add more clients). How many simultaneous connections can each
platform handle before you reach saturation?
> Although theory has it that a G4 500MHz has about the same performance
> as a PIII 1.5GHz (ie triple the performance), I've found that it's
> really more like double the performance, not triple.
Careful there. Clockrate != performance. When all things are equal
(i.e. chip architecture, design, etc.), then clockrate is effective
to determine relative performance increases. However, the G4 and the
PIII have very different architectures. This is true of the PIII and
the P4, and the P4 and the K7. In that case 1.5GHz in all three
processors would have very different performance results. As far as
I know, the G4 is not capable of the high clockrates, so it makes up
for it with an efficient pipeline. The pentium series was designed
for high clockrates.
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Re: Fastest Platform (softwarewise)?
Posted by Phil Blake <ph...@tcp.net.au>.
Hi,
We run apache/tomcat/cocoon on 3 server platforms, Linux, AIX and MacOS
X.
Linux on a dual PIII 550, OSX on a PPC-G4 450 and AIX on a 4x250MHz
PPC-G3.
Bang for buck, a G4 running OSX wins hands down. However, believe it or
not, the dual PIII comes in second (AIX don't come close... too
expensive for real consideration and Windows is not a server operating
system in practice, only in marketing).
The Dual PIII was about 10% more than the G4 (after adding SCSI) and
about 70-80% the performance.
Although theory has it that a G4 500MHz has about the same performance
as a PIII 1.5GHz (ie triple the performance), I've found that it's
really more like double the performance, not triple.
Phil
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