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Posted to users@wicket.apache.org by nazeem <md...@gmail.com> on 2013/03/23 04:14:51 UTC
Wicket for Hybrid App
Hi,
We have a full fledged application running on Wicket + Hibernate + Spring ..
Now we are left with no choice but to come up with a mobile version of the
same.. But the requirements for mobile are it must have capabilities to scan
bar code, take photo and upload, attach documents from mail in mobile, etc..
goes on.. So it has to be native to have these features.. But we want to
use the wicket or html / js / css skills to get these app faster. This is
when we are looking for hybrid apps and came across platforms like phonegap,
apache cordova, etc..
Can wicket be used for hybrid apps ? If so how..
Regards
Nazeem
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Re: Wicket for Hybrid App
Posted by Paul Bors <pa...@bors.ws>.
Yes, I use the Velocity panel in Wicket to have it render other formats but
HTML (in my case XML) as used to transfer some feedback between two systems.
You could do something similar where the velocity template is your mobile's
APP HTML and have those be rendered by Wicket and then sent to your mobile
phone client.
See http://wicket.apache.org/learn/projects/velocity.html
~ Thank you,
Paul Bors
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 2:58 AM, nazeem <md...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My App is not static, I intend build some thing like this..
>
> Phone gap + html + css + JS >> Bundled as Android App / iPhone App
>
> To start with need to be online, connect to the server using REST,
> synchronize the data and store in local db storage via phone gap api's.
>
> Now when offline, the App uses local storage DB and when connected to
> internet it sends all local stored or updated info to server via REST and
> pulls latest info from server.
>
> Do you see any issue with this ? I would love to use Wicket for the front
> end, but not yet.. Can wicket generate client side stubs like DWR does ?
>
>
>
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Re: Wicket for Hybrid App
Posted by nazeem <md...@gmail.com>.
My App is not static, I intend build some thing like this..
Phone gap + html + css + JS >> Bundled as Android App / iPhone App
To start with need to be online, connect to the server using REST,
synchronize the data and store in local db storage via phone gap api's.
Now when offline, the App uses local storage DB and when connected to
internet it sends all local stored or updated info to server via REST and
pulls latest info from server.
Do you see any issue with this ? I would love to use Wicket for the front
end, but not yet.. Can wicket generate client side stubs like DWR does ?
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Re: Wicket for Hybrid App
Posted by Paul Bors <pa...@bors.ws>.
I shouldn't say static, I shoud have asked if your app is not depending on
a persistence server side storage?
ie: I would expect my data view to change when I update a filter and a SQL
or some query to run on a remote server.
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Paul Bors <pa...@bors.ws> wrote:
> But if you use plain JS, Css, Html etc, how do you satisfy the requirement
> of having the app work offline?
> Is your app all static?
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:11 PM, nazeem <md...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That sounds interesting.. But im afraid it gets bigger in size, memory
>> etc..
>> Need to try this..
>>
>> But for now, I chose jQuery + REST to communicate to server for data and
>> all
>> other html, JS, css etc packaged as phone gap app. So the desktop version
>> of
>> the client is Wicket and mobile version in plain JS, Css,Html.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Wicket for Hybrid App
Posted by Paul Bors <pa...@bors.ws>.
But if you use plain JS, Css, Html etc, how do you satisfy the requirement
of having the app work offline?
Is your app all static?
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:11 PM, nazeem <md...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That sounds interesting.. But im afraid it gets bigger in size, memory
> etc..
> Need to try this..
>
> But for now, I chose jQuery + REST to communicate to server for data and
> all
> other html, JS, css etc packaged as phone gap app. So the desktop version
> of
> the client is Wicket and mobile version in plain JS, Css,Html.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Wicket for Hybrid App
Posted by nazeem <md...@gmail.com>.
That sounds interesting.. But im afraid it gets bigger in size, memory etc..
Need to try this..
But for now, I chose jQuery + REST to communicate to server for data and all
other html, JS, css etc packaged as phone gap app. So the desktop version of
the client is Wicket and mobile version in plain JS, Css,Html.
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Re: Wicket for Hybrid App
Posted by Igor Vaynberg <ig...@gmail.com>.
why wait? https://code.google.com/p/i-jetty/
-igor
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Paul Bors <pa...@bors.ws> wrote:
> I was kidding hence the smiling face :P
> Although, you might be able to do so in a few years or so...
>
> You'll have to have a full native phone app since you're already have a
> requirement to run the app offline (and you can't run Wicket on the phone).
> If the app is static, you might get to cache some HTML on the phone
> otherwise you'll only get to use Wicket on the server side.
>
> ~ Thank you,
> Paul Bors
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: manuelbarzi [mailto:manuelbarzi@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 5:14 PM
> To: users@wicket.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Wicket for Hybrid App
>
>> Create a native app for your phone that installs Tomcat, Jetty along
>> with your Wicket webapp and whatever else you might nedd.
>> Have your webapp on all those clients sync up with your central db
>> whenever they come online :)
>
>
> how do you do explain that? running a fully compliant jvm in a smartphone,
> for instance? doesn't seem to have sense, at least nowadays for the moment.
>
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RE: Wicket for Hybrid App
Posted by Paul Bors <pa...@bors.ws>.
I was kidding hence the smiling face :P
Although, you might be able to do so in a few years or so...
You'll have to have a full native phone app since you're already have a
requirement to run the app offline (and you can't run Wicket on the phone).
If the app is static, you might get to cache some HTML on the phone
otherwise you'll only get to use Wicket on the server side.
~ Thank you,
Paul Bors
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From: manuelbarzi [mailto:manuelbarzi@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 5:14 PM
To: users@wicket.apache.org
Subject: Re: Wicket for Hybrid App
> Create a native app for your phone that installs Tomcat, Jetty along
> with your Wicket webapp and whatever else you might nedd.
> Have your webapp on all those clients sync up with your central db
> whenever they come online :)
how do you do explain that? running a fully compliant jvm in a smartphone,
for instance? doesn't seem to have sense, at least nowadays for the moment.
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Re: Wicket for Hybrid App
Posted by manuelbarzi <ma...@gmail.com>.
> Create a native app for your phone that installs Tomcat, Jetty along
> with your Wicket webapp and whatever else you might nedd.
> Have your webapp on all those clients sync up with your central db whenever
> they come online :)
how do you do explain that? running a fully compliant jvm in a smartphone,
for instance? doesn't seem to have sense, at least nowadays for the moment.
Re: Wicket for Hybrid App
Posted by Paul Bors <pa...@bors.ws>.
Here's an idea,
Create a native app for your phone that installs Tomcat, Jetty along
with your Wicket webapp and whatever else you might nedd.
Have your webapp on all those clients sync up with your central db whenever
they come online :)
~ Thank you,
Paul Bors
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 1:19 AM, nazeem <md...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Thanks for your input. I understand what you meant, to serve pages from the
> server directly. So the phone gap will be trying to launch some thing like
> http://app.company.com/demo/... . I agree, can be done this way. But one
> important criteria or requirement, is that the app should work offline.. :)
> In case of offline, the data is to be stored in local phone db (sqllite or
> session .. ) and then sync back to server. So I can rely on data from the
> server but not the pages as such..
>
> regards
> naz.
>
>
>
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Re: Wicket for Hybrid App
Posted by nazeem <md...@gmail.com>.
Hi
Thanks for your input. I understand what you meant, to serve pages from the
server directly. So the phone gap will be trying to launch some thing like
http://app.company.com/demo/... . I agree, can be done this way. But one
important criteria or requirement, is that the app should work offline.. :)
In case of offline, the data is to be stored in local phone db (sqllite or
session .. ) and then sync back to server. So I can rely on data from the
server but not the pages as such..
regards
naz.
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Re: Wicket for Hybrid App
Posted by Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro <re...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 4:14 AM, nazeem <md...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We have a full fledged application running on Wicket + Hibernate + Spring
> ..
> Now we are left with no choice but to come up with a mobile version of the
> same.. But the requirements for mobile are it must have capabilities to
> scan
> bar code, take photo and upload, attach documents from mail in mobile,
> etc..
> goes on.. So it has to be native to have these features.. But we want to
> use the wicket or html / js / css skills to get these app faster. This is
> when we are looking for hybrid apps and came across platforms like
> phonegap,
> apache cordova, etc..
>
> Can wicket be used for hybrid apps ? If so how..
>
Isn't this just a matter of serving your phone-gap (apache cordova) powered
application from Wicket?. At least with phone gap I understand the
application is just HTML+ JS files you serve form somewhere: usually local
"file system" but it can be a remote URL too. Also you could use mounted
resources or pages to serve all the resources needed by this application.
I have made a small experiment a few month ago with Wicket and Phonegap and
I did not find any problems in using both together but my experiment was
not very complex so I might have missed some important "limitations".
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