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is jsvc not used here? Re: slow shutdown with jsvc
jsvc seems to be no matter on this mailing list?
Are there other tools for running tomcat on port 80 with nonroot user on
unix/solaris?
Running apache only for nonroot port 80 access seems to be
oversized/extensive for me (maintenance,complexity,..)
Charly
2007/9/8, charly <gartenzwerg..>:
>
> Hi all again,
>
> ..
Is the old behaviour by design or did I made something wrong at building the
> executable?
> I used ./configure --with-java=pathtojava and make (I do not have
> autoconf)
>
> Are there better solutions?
>
> Thanks Charly
>
>
> SunOS server 5.8 Generic_108528-06 sun4u sparc SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIi-cEngine
>
>
>
> 2007/9/8, charly < gartenzwerg <ga...@googlemail.com>...:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am using jsvc on solaris to run tomcat on port 80 using a non root
> > user. Startup and running seems to be ok.
> > I use the jsvc -stop -pidfile .... to initiate a shutdown. this
> > command waits until the shutdown is complete.
> > But in my case it lasts very long until jsvc is actually doing the
> > shutdown:
> >
> > Does anyone know what could be the problem ?
> >
> > I
>
>
>
Re: is jsvc not used here? Re: slow shutdown with jsvc
Posted by "Mark H. Wood" <mw...@IUPUI.Edu>.
Gentoo Linux comes with its own startup script for Tomcat (using, I
believe, tools from Debian) that fits into the Gentoo startup
structure, so one doesn't need jsvc there. I suppose that many other
distro.s do likewise, although some may use jsvc "under the covers".
--
Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mwood@IUPUI.Edu
Typically when a software vendor says that a product is "intuitive" he
means the exact opposite.
Re: is jsvc not used here? Re: slow shutdown with jsvc
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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Charly,
charly wrote:
> 2007/9/14, Christopher Schultz
>
>>> Does anyone use it on Solaris?
>> Again, you ought to ask about this on the jakarta-commons forum, where
>> the jsvc project lives.
>
> Ok I have understood that
> But my original question was "are there are existing better tools?" and I
> did not find it appropriate to ask for this at their forum
Fair enough. I provided a list of other possibilities in a previous post.
> Is the only problem that jsvc takes a long time to shut down?
In my limited experience on this list with users of jsvc, I don't recall
that anyone has reported long shutdown times when using jsvc.
> I assume that this slowness is only on certain Unices.
Often, slowness occurs when a random source of data is being used but
can't generate random data quickly enough -- but this usually happens on
startup, not shutdown. For instance, /dev/random is often a blocking
data source, while /dev/urandom is not.
- -chris
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Re: is jsvc not used here? Re: slow shutdown with jsvc
Posted by charly <ga...@googlemail.com>.
2007/9/14, Christopher Schultz
> > Dos anyone use it on Solaris?
>
> Again, you ought to ask about this on the jakarta-commons forum, where
> the jsvc project lives.
Ok I have understood that
But my original question was "are there are existing better tools?" and I
did not find it appropriate to ask for this at their forum
Is the only problem that jsvc takes a long time to shut down?
I solved my problem (see older emails, maybe I should have labeled that with
a SOLVED)
But the solution was so simple that I am wondering if jsvc was used at all
for tomcat (at least on solaris)
(and maybe there would be used other tools with advantages) Maybe tomcat at
all is scarcely anybody using on solaris.
I assume that this slowness is only on certain Unices.
I did not want to annoy.
Thanks Charly
Re: is jsvc not used here? Re: slow shutdown with jsvc
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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Charly,
charly wrote:
> Ok it seems no problem on Linux.
>
> Dos anyone use it on Solaris?
Again, you ought to ask about this on the jakarta-commons forum, where
the jsvc project lives.
I'm sure there are Solaris users of jsvc lurking on this list, too. Try
starting a new thread titled "jsvc usage on Solaris 8" or something like
that -- maybe you'll get a bite.
Is the only problem that jsvc takes a long time to shut down?
If Tomcat takes a while to stop, wouldn't you want jsvc to wait until it
was stopped? If not, you can always run jsvc (to stop Tomcat) as a
background task (jsvc -stop -pidfile tomcat.pid &)
- -chris
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Re: is jsvc not used here? Re: slow shutdown with jsvc
Posted by charly <ga...@googlemail.com>.
Ok it seems no problem on Linux.
Dos anyone use it on Solaris?
Charly
2007/9/14, David Smith:
>
> I use it and have no problem with it. Always thought of it as a no
> brainer on my Mandriva Linux server.
>
> --David
>
> charly wrote:
> > Ok it seems that jsvc seems to be scarcely used.
> > So it seems that jsvc does not fit sufficiently for tomcat and /or
> there
> > are better solutions or whatever..
> >
>
>
>
Re: is jsvc not used here? Re: slow shutdown with jsvc
Posted by David Smith <dn...@cornell.edu>.
I use it and have no problem with it. Always thought of it as a no
brainer on my Mandriva Linux server.
--David
charly wrote:
> Ok it seems that jsvc seems to be scarcely used.
> So it seems that jsvc does not fit sufficiently for tomcat and /or there
> are better solutions or whatever..
>
> thanks
> charly
>
> 2007/9/13, Christopher Schultz
>
>
>> Charly,
>>
>> charly wrote:
>>
>>> jsvc seems to be no matter on this mailing list?
>>>
>> Well, this is the Tomcat mailing list... not the jsvc mailing list. Try
>> asking on the commons-user mailing list. We can't be experts on all
>> subjects posted to this list, even if jsvc /is/ often suggested as a
>>
>
> useful tool. I also suggest using 'cron' all the time, but asking
>
>> questions about cron on this list is a mistake, too.
>>
>
>
> I asked here because its actually a tomcat problem for me, ..
>
>
>> Are there other tools for running tomcat on port 80 with nonroot user on
>>
>>> unix/solaris?
>>>
>> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Securing_tomcat#Using_Port_80
>>
>>
>>> Running apache only for nonroot port 80 access seems to be
>>> oversized/extensive for me (maintenance,complexity,..)
>>>
>> Then use one of the other options.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: is jsvc not used here? Re: slow shutdown with jsvc
Posted by charly <ga...@googlemail.com>.
Ok it seems that jsvc seems to be scarcely used.
So it seems that jsvc does not fit sufficiently for tomcat and /or there
are better solutions or whatever..
thanks
charly
2007/9/13, Christopher Schultz
>
> Charly,
>
> charly wrote:
> > jsvc seems to be no matter on this mailing list?
>
> Well, this is the Tomcat mailing list... not the jsvc mailing list. Try
> asking on the commons-user mailing list. We can't be experts on all
> subjects posted to this list, even if jsvc /is/ often suggested as a
useful tool. I also suggest using 'cron' all the time, but asking
> questions about cron on this list is a mistake, too.
I asked here because its actually a tomcat problem for me, ..
> Are there other tools for running tomcat on port 80 with nonroot user on
> > unix/solaris?
>
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Securing_tomcat#Using_Port_80
>
> > Running apache only for nonroot port 80 access seems to be
> > oversized/extensive for me (maintenance,complexity,..)
>
> Then use one of the other options.
>
>
Re: is jsvc not used here? Re: slow shutdown with jsvc
Posted by charly <ga...@googlemail.com>.
2007/9/13, Gabriel Wong <ga...@webappcabaret.com>:
>
> Charly,
>
> The URL, provided by Christopher, provides some very useful tips for
> port 80 binding.
> I would also like to add, another option (used in the hosting world) is
> to create a VPS for the application server to run under.
> So the application server would be able to run as root but yet in a
> restrictive environment set by the VPS policy.
>
>
my unix experience is humble. VPS seems to be a linux tool. Is it also
available for solaris?
thanks charly
Re: is jsvc not used here? Re: slow shutdown with jsvc
Posted by Gabriel Wong <ga...@webappcabaret.com>.
Charly,
The URL, provided by Christopher, provides some very useful tips for
port 80 binding.
I would also like to add, another option (used in the hosting world) is
to create a VPS for the application server to run under.
So the application server would be able to run as root but yet in a
restrictive environment set by the VPS policy.
Christopher Schultz wrote:
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> Charly,
>
> charly wrote:
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>> jsvc seems to be no matter on this mailing list?
>>
>
> Well, this is the Tomcat mailing list... not the jsvc mailing list. Try
> asking on the commons-user mailing list. We can't be experts on all
> subjects posted to this list, even if jsvc /is/ often suggested as a
> useful tool. I also suggest using 'cron' all the time, but asking
> questions about cron on this list is a mistake, too.
>
>
>> Are there other tools for running tomcat on port 80 with nonroot user on
>> unix/solaris?
>>
>
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Securing_tomcat#Using_Port_80
>
>
>> Running apache only for nonroot port 80 access seems to be
>> oversized/extensive for me (maintenance,complexity,..)
>>
>
> Then use one of the other options.
>
> - -chris
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Re: is jsvc not used here? Re: slow shutdown with jsvc
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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Charly,
charly wrote:
> jsvc seems to be no matter on this mailing list?
Well, this is the Tomcat mailing list... not the jsvc mailing list. Try
asking on the commons-user mailing list. We can't be experts on all
subjects posted to this list, even if jsvc /is/ often suggested as a
useful tool. I also suggest using 'cron' all the time, but asking
questions about cron on this list is a mistake, too.
> Are there other tools for running tomcat on port 80 with nonroot user on
> unix/solaris?
http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Securing_tomcat#Using_Port_80
> Running apache only for nonroot port 80 access seems to be
> oversized/extensive for me (maintenance,complexity,..)
Then use one of the other options.
- -chris
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