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Can Cocoon be a solution (or start) for me?

Today we are working in a custom J2EE web application framework (kind of
Struts alike framework). 
But we need a new kind of website.

The main requirement is that we need some flexible structure to setup the
web pages (kind of building blocks). And maybe in the future a new
requirement could be that our web administrator (non developer) can modify
the structure (not the whole structure, but playing a litlle bit with some
blocks) without need some developer doing the job...

So Maybe someone can told me if Cocoon can help me building up such a J2EE
website?

And maybe important is that some JSP pages tody can be re-used easily...

Thanks for all feedback
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Re: Can Cocoon be a solution (or start) for me?

Posted by Andreas Kuehne <ak...@yahoo.com>.
Hi,
yes, you cav achieve something like this with Cocoon. There are some portal-like blocks available in Cocoon. Or you go for a fully-fledged portal implementation. I got some experience with liferay. 

I would recommend to investigate both ...

Greetings

Andreas




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Today we are working in a custom J2EE web application framework (kind of
Struts alike framework). 
But we need a new kind of website.

The main requirement is that we need some flexible structure to setup the
web pages (kind of building blocks). And maybe in the future a new
requirement could be that our web administrator (non developer) can modify
the structure (not the whole structure, but playing a litlle bit with some
blocks) without need some developer doing the job...

So Maybe someone can told me if Cocoon can help me building up such a J2EE
website?

And maybe important is that some JSP pages tody can be re-used easily...

Thanks for all feedback
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Re: Can Cocoon be a solution (or start) for me?

Posted by koencl <ko...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for all the answers.

Well beside the requirement of more flexible structure for setup the web
pages (building blocks) there are some other requirements:

important: content management system
also important: an issue way of re-use the existing JSP/Servlet calls (some
interview pages and afterwards calculation in Java classes, wich return a
result JSP)

So for me I was looking at 3 kind of solutions:

1) keep the current Java environment and built up our JSP's with Cocoon. For
Content Management System I was thinking about Jackrabbits.

2) I saw also that Hippo is using Cocoon/Jackrabbits (and I guess Jetspeed
for portal), so this was also some kind of solution to see for.
=> My question is: Is it easy to re-use the existing interview JSP pages
with there own Context/Session environment (Servlet calls)

beside Hippo I had also dotCMS, Liferay, and Lenya as possible Java
solutions.

3) just a CMS in another environment (PHP): drupal, Joomla. I was surprised
about the flexible way of working (on point of view of web administrator)
for Drupal. But th thing is, we have only Java skills under our developers
community, so I don't know if it is a good idea to switch. Also the
difficult point to rewrite the JSP interview pages in a php environment is
giving me a bad feeling (maybe not correct...)


=> So maybe you have some suggestions about my 3 kind of solutions. The main
idea of concern is, ok I selected already Cocoon/Jackrabbit/Jetspeed to
investigate. But then I saw that Hippo and Lenya are using this in bigger
solution. So maybe it is better to take one of them, and not starting from
the individual part of solutions...

Thanks for you idea's about this.
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Re: Can Cocoon be a solution (or start) for me?

Posted by Francesco Chicchiriccò <fr...@everett.it>.
On 03/feb/10, at 23:46, Michael Wechner wrote:

> koencl wrote:
>> Today we are working in a custom J2EE web application framework  
>> (kind of
>> Struts alike framework). But we need a new kind of website.
>>
>> The main requirement is that we need some flexible structure to  
>> setup the
>> web pages (kind of building blocks). And maybe in the future a new
>> requirement could be that our web administrator (non developer) can  
>> modify
>> the structure (not the whole structure, but playing a litlle bit  
>> with some
>> blocks) without need some developer doing the job...
>>
>> So Maybe someone can told me if Cocoon can help me building up such  
>> a J2EE
>> website?
>>
>> And maybe important is that some JSP pages tody can be re-used  
>> easily...
>>
>
> yes,  you can, but I think it depends on the "functionality" of your  
> website. Is it more content centric or more
> application centric?
>
> What about integrating a Content Management System? As mentioned  
> before what about Portlet functionality?

I would suggest the same: what about Hippo CMS [1]? It should comply  
with most (if not all) of your above expressed requirements.

Cheers.

[1] http://www.onehippo.org/


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Re: Can Cocoon be a solution (or start) for me?

Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
koencl wrote:
> Today we are working in a custom J2EE web application framework (kind of
> Struts alike framework). 
> But we need a new kind of website.
>
> The main requirement is that we need some flexible structure to setup the
> web pages (kind of building blocks). And maybe in the future a new
> requirement could be that our web administrator (non developer) can modify
> the structure (not the whole structure, but playing a litlle bit with some
> blocks) without need some developer doing the job...
>
> So Maybe someone can told me if Cocoon can help me building up such a J2EE
> website?
>
> And maybe important is that some JSP pages tody can be re-used easily...
>   

yes,  you can, but I think it depends on the "functionality" of your 
website. Is it more content centric or more
application centric?

What about integrating a Content Management System? As mentioned before 
what about Portlet functionality?

Cheers

Michael
> Thanks for all feedback
>   


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