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Re: ActiveMQ Console - let's get the problem defined

Thanks Timothy!

BTW - looking at the first one on the list AMQ-2785, I don't see a clear
indication of webconsole; is there some way to locate these?  Isn't there
a component for webconsole that could be added to those Jira entries to
make them easy to locate.

>
>
> On 01/31/2014 04:09 PM, artnaseef wrote:
>> Another thing - "22Mb legacy turd" is not a technical argument (at
>> least, I
>> don't recognize it as one).
>>
>> I'm disappointed.
>>
>> If there are concerns with maintenance, what are they?  I believe there
>> are
>> currently only 3 outstanding Jira entries for the console.  Right?  It's
>> old
>> - so what, it's not older than ActiveMQ ;-).
>>
>> I love that so many people are passionate about ActiveMQ.  I wish that
>> passion were being put into making it better and moving it forward
>> rather
>> than making arguments without merit and laying out criticism - very
>> disappointing.
>>
>> So, back to defining the problem.  All I've seen so far is the list of
>> security concerns from Hiram - thank you Hiram.  Anything else?  I do
>> believe I've read comments about difficulty maintaining it.  Is that
>> true,
>> or just an exaggerated expression of frustration?
>>
>>
>>
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>>
> Here's some of the issues around the console:
>
> Open
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-2785
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-2471
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-2429
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-3555
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4813
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4828
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4994
>
> Closed when we thought the console was deprecated
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4173
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4174
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-3370
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4175
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-3132
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4499
>
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Re: ActiveMQ Console - let's get the problem defined

Posted by artnaseef <ar...@artnaseef.com>.
Thanks.

I'm trying to edit the issues, but don't seem to have access.  Perhaps I'm
only permissioned to create and comment on issues?  What is needed to be
able to edit them?


>
>
> On 01/31/2014 06:21 PM, artnaseef wrote:
>> Thanks Timothy!
>>
>> BTW - looking at the first one on the list AMQ-2785, I don't see a clear
>> indication of webconsole; is there some way to locate these?
> Reading / Searching
>
>> Isn't there
>> a component for webconsole that could be added to those Jira entries to
>> make them easy to locate.
> Yes, there's a 'webconsole' component, feel free to review all open
> issue and assign as needed.
>
>>
>>>
>>> On 01/31/2014 04:09 PM, artnaseef wrote:
>>>> Another thing - "22Mb legacy turd" is not a technical argument (at
>>>> least, I
>>>> don't recognize it as one).
>>>>
>>>> I'm disappointed.
>>>>
>>>> If there are concerns with maintenance, what are they?  I believe
>>>> there
>>>> are
>>>> currently only 3 outstanding Jira entries for the console.  Right?
>>>> It's
>>>> old
>>>> - so what, it's not older than ActiveMQ ;-).
>>>>
>>>> I love that so many people are passionate about ActiveMQ.  I wish that
>>>> passion were being put into making it better and moving it forward
>>>> rather
>>>> than making arguments without merit and laying out criticism - very
>>>> disappointing.
>>>>
>>>> So, back to defining the problem.  All I've seen so far is the list of
>>>> security concerns from Hiram - thank you Hiram.  Anything else?  I do
>>>> believe I've read comments about difficulty maintaining it.  Is that
>>>> true,
>>>> or just an exaggerated expression of frustration?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/ActiveMQ-Console-let-s-get-the-problem-defined-tp4677105p4677224.html
>>>> Sent from the ActiveMQ - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>
>>> Here's some of the issues around the console:
>>>
>>> Open
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-2785
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-2471
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-2429
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-3555
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4813
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4828
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4994
>>>
>>> Closed when we thought the console was deprecated
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4173
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4174
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-3370
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4175
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-3132
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4499
>>>
>>>
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>>> Tim Bish
>>> Sr Software Engineer | RedHat Inc.
>>> tim.bish@redhat.com | www.fusesource.com | www.redhat.com
>>> skype: tabish121 | twitter: @tabish121
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Re: ActiveMQ Console - let's get the problem defined

Posted by Timothy Bish <ta...@gmail.com>.
On 01/31/2014 06:21 PM, artnaseef wrote:
> Thanks Timothy!
>
> BTW - looking at the first one on the list AMQ-2785, I don't see a clear
> indication of webconsole; is there some way to locate these?
Reading / Searching

> Isn't there
> a component for webconsole that could be added to those Jira entries to
> make them easy to locate.
Yes, there's a 'webconsole' component, feel free to review all open 
issue and assign as needed.

>
>>
>> On 01/31/2014 04:09 PM, artnaseef wrote:
>>> Another thing - "22Mb legacy turd" is not a technical argument (at
>>> least, I
>>> don't recognize it as one).
>>>
>>> I'm disappointed.
>>>
>>> If there are concerns with maintenance, what are they?  I believe there
>>> are
>>> currently only 3 outstanding Jira entries for the console.  Right?  It's
>>> old
>>> - so what, it's not older than ActiveMQ ;-).
>>>
>>> I love that so many people are passionate about ActiveMQ.  I wish that
>>> passion were being put into making it better and moving it forward
>>> rather
>>> than making arguments without merit and laying out criticism - very
>>> disappointing.
>>>
>>> So, back to defining the problem.  All I've seen so far is the list of
>>> security concerns from Hiram - thank you Hiram.  Anything else?  I do
>>> believe I've read comments about difficulty maintaining it.  Is that
>>> true,
>>> or just an exaggerated expression of frustration?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/ActiveMQ-Console-let-s-get-the-problem-defined-tp4677105p4677224.html
>>> Sent from the ActiveMQ - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>> Here's some of the issues around the console:
>>
>> Open
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-2785
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-2471
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-2429
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-3555
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4813
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4828
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4994
>>
>> Closed when we thought the console was deprecated
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4173
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4174
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-3370
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4175
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-3132
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-4499
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tim Bish
>> Sr Software Engineer | RedHat Inc.
>> tim.bish@redhat.com | www.fusesource.com | www.redhat.com
>> skype: tabish121 | twitter: @tabish121
>> blog: http://timbish.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
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