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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Abhishek Tiwari <ab...@apache.org> on 2018/09/01 01:59:19 UTC
Re: Guidance : Gitter --> Slack
Are you okay with message count limitation with Slack? or is there any
license that they have for open source projects?
Abhishek
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:48 PM Sid Anand <sa...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Folks!
> The Airflow community would like to move to Slack from Gitter. Is there any
> guidance on this list on how to do that? We would essentially like to
> shutdown Gitter.
>
> -s
>
Re: Guidance : Gitter --> Slack
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
John (cc'd) set up the workspace. I dunno how it is configured.
On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 9:04 PM Sid Anand <sa...@apache.org> wrote:
> I see the channel now. I could not find it earlier, hence my trying to
> create it. Yes, it seems like someone set this up.
>
> So, am I correct in assuming that anyone can register an account on this
> slack workspace using any email account (e.g. does not need to be
> Apache.org emails)? Is that correct?
>
> -s
>
> On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 6:32 PM Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 8:04 PM Sid Anand <sa...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Greg,
> > > Interesting. I just tried that and was shown "airflow is already taken
> > by a
> > > channel, user, or user group".
> > >
> >
> > Seems somebody in your community already set it up?
> >
> >
> > > However, apache-airflow is available.
> > >
> >
> > Why create something new, instead of just using #airflow?? Please stop
> > trying to create a new area, and instead join *existing* areas to
> converse.
> > And specifically stay with your dev@ mailing list.
> >
> >
> > > I noticed channels for general. I figured general would be limited to
> > the
> > > ASF mailing lists.
> >
> >
> > Hunh? Slack is unrelated to mailing lists. That was my point about
> avoiding
> > chat, and sticking to dev@ mailing lists. And the #general channel is
> > totally unrelated to this, or any other mailing list.
> >
> > -g
> >
>
Re: Guidance : Gitter --> Slack
Posted by Sid Anand <sa...@apache.org>.
I see the channel now. I could not find it earlier, hence my trying to
create it. Yes, it seems like someone set this up.
So, am I correct in assuming that anyone can register an account on this
slack workspace using any email account (e.g. does not need to be
Apache.org emails)? Is that correct?
-s
On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 6:32 PM Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 8:04 PM Sid Anand <sa...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Greg,
> > Interesting. I just tried that and was shown "airflow is already taken
> by a
> > channel, user, or user group".
> >
>
> Seems somebody in your community already set it up?
>
>
> > However, apache-airflow is available.
> >
>
> Why create something new, instead of just using #airflow?? Please stop
> trying to create a new area, and instead join *existing* areas to converse.
> And specifically stay with your dev@ mailing list.
>
>
> > I noticed channels for general. I figured general would be limited to
> the
> > ASF mailing lists.
>
>
> Hunh? Slack is unrelated to mailing lists. That was my point about avoiding
> chat, and sticking to dev@ mailing lists. And the #general channel is
> totally unrelated to this, or any other mailing list.
>
> -g
>
Re: Guidance : Gitter --> Slack
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 8:04 PM Sid Anand <sa...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Greg,
> Interesting. I just tried that and was shown "airflow is already taken by a
> channel, user, or user group".
>
Seems somebody in your community already set it up?
> However, apache-airflow is available.
>
Why create something new, instead of just using #airflow?? Please stop
trying to create a new area, and instead join *existing* areas to converse.
And specifically stay with your dev@ mailing list.
> I noticed channels for general. I figured general would be limited to the
> ASF mailing lists.
Hunh? Slack is unrelated to mailing lists. That was my point about avoiding
chat, and sticking to dev@ mailing lists. And the #general channel is
totally unrelated to this, or any other mailing list.
-g
Re: Guidance : Gitter --> Slack
Posted by Sid Anand <sa...@apache.org>.
Hi Greg,
Interesting. I just tried that and was shown "airflow is already taken by a
channel, user, or user group".
However, apache-airflow is available.
I noticed channels for general. I figured general would be limited to the
ASF mailing lists.
-s
On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 2:23 PM Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would suggest an #airflow channel on the-asf.slack.com
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 15:36 Sid Anand <sa...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > How would I establish airflow.slack.com? Would I just go ahead and
> create
> > the workspace? Or is there a preference to have Apache Infra create and
> own
> > it?
> >
> > -s
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 7:08 PM Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Slack has no F/OSS discounts, but they *do* have a discount for
> charities
> > > like the ASF. The ASF has not (yet) chosen to purchase a license,
> though,
> > > as we encourage mailing lists rather than synchronous chat services. We
> > > also want the discussions *recorded* on ASF hardware for
> archival/review
> > > purposes. Mailing lists are easily archived, but not so easily for
> chat.
> > >
> > > At Apache, chat services should be viewed as *supplemental* to a
> > project's
> > > dev@ list. This is why we're not spending $$ on them. Projects should
> be
> > > more concerned about keeping discussion on-list, rather than what chat
> > > service to use.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > -g
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:59 PM Abhishek Tiwari <ab...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Are you okay with message count limitation with Slack? or is there
> any
> > > > license that they have for open source projects?
> > > >
> > > > Abhishek
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:48 PM Sid Anand <sa...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Folks!
> > > > > The Airflow community would like to move to Slack from Gitter. Is
> > there
> > > > any
> > > > > guidance on this list on how to do that? We would essentially like
> to
> > > > > shutdown Gitter.
> > > > >
> > > > > -s
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Guidance : Gitter --> Slack
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
I would suggest an #airflow channel on the-asf.slack.com
On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 15:36 Sid Anand <sa...@apache.org> wrote:
> How would I establish airflow.slack.com? Would I just go ahead and create
> the workspace? Or is there a preference to have Apache Infra create and own
> it?
>
> -s
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 7:08 PM Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Slack has no F/OSS discounts, but they *do* have a discount for charities
> > like the ASF. The ASF has not (yet) chosen to purchase a license, though,
> > as we encourage mailing lists rather than synchronous chat services. We
> > also want the discussions *recorded* on ASF hardware for archival/review
> > purposes. Mailing lists are easily archived, but not so easily for chat.
> >
> > At Apache, chat services should be viewed as *supplemental* to a
> project's
> > dev@ list. This is why we're not spending $$ on them. Projects should be
> > more concerned about keeping discussion on-list, rather than what chat
> > service to use.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -g
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:59 PM Abhishek Tiwari <ab...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Are you okay with message count limitation with Slack? or is there any
> > > license that they have for open source projects?
> > >
> > > Abhishek
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:48 PM Sid Anand <sa...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Folks!
> > > > The Airflow community would like to move to Slack from Gitter. Is
> there
> > > any
> > > > guidance on this list on how to do that? We would essentially like to
> > > > shutdown Gitter.
> > > >
> > > > -s
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Guidance : Gitter --> Slack
Posted by Sid Anand <sa...@apache.org>.
How would I establish airflow.slack.com? Would I just go ahead and create
the workspace? Or is there a preference to have Apache Infra create and own
it?
-s
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 7:08 PM Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Slack has no F/OSS discounts, but they *do* have a discount for charities
> like the ASF. The ASF has not (yet) chosen to purchase a license, though,
> as we encourage mailing lists rather than synchronous chat services. We
> also want the discussions *recorded* on ASF hardware for archival/review
> purposes. Mailing lists are easily archived, but not so easily for chat.
>
> At Apache, chat services should be viewed as *supplemental* to a project's
> dev@ list. This is why we're not spending $$ on them. Projects should be
> more concerned about keeping discussion on-list, rather than what chat
> service to use.
>
> Cheers,
> -g
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:59 PM Abhishek Tiwari <ab...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Are you okay with message count limitation with Slack? or is there any
> > license that they have for open source projects?
> >
> > Abhishek
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:48 PM Sid Anand <sa...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Folks!
> > > The Airflow community would like to move to Slack from Gitter. Is there
> > any
> > > guidance on this list on how to do that? We would essentially like to
> > > shutdown Gitter.
> > >
> > > -s
> > >
> >
>
Re: Guidance : Gitter --> Slack
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
Slack has no F/OSS discounts, but they *do* have a discount for charities
like the ASF. The ASF has not (yet) chosen to purchase a license, though,
as we encourage mailing lists rather than synchronous chat services. We
also want the discussions *recorded* on ASF hardware for archival/review
purposes. Mailing lists are easily archived, but not so easily for chat.
At Apache, chat services should be viewed as *supplemental* to a project's
dev@ list. This is why we're not spending $$ on them. Projects should be
more concerned about keeping discussion on-list, rather than what chat
service to use.
Cheers,
-g
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:59 PM Abhishek Tiwari <ab...@apache.org> wrote:
> Are you okay with message count limitation with Slack? or is there any
> license that they have for open source projects?
>
> Abhishek
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:48 PM Sid Anand <sa...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks!
> > The Airflow community would like to move to Slack from Gitter. Is there
> any
> > guidance on this list on how to do that? We would essentially like to
> > shutdown Gitter.
> >
> > -s
> >
>