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Connecting paragraph styles with numbering (list) styles
I am trying to construct an outline with nested headings for
lectures. Following the online manual (ch. 7, p. 259) for Open
Office, I can create both Paragraph styles and Numbering styles but I
cannot seem to combine them. Could I get some sources of information please?
Second problem: I would like to transfer my new styles (if they
work) to a document consisting of bits and pieces of previous
documents with different styles and configure them to the new style
with consistent renumbering. There is no information in the manual on this.
Microsoft word seems to have a renumber feature on their Outline mode
that renumbers a collections of cut and pasted documents to make the
heading in the new document sequential and consistent. Open Office
does not seem to have this. True? False?
Any reference to solutions would be appreciated.
Janis Langins
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Re: Connecting paragraph styles with numbering (list) styles
Posted by Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>.
Hi Janis,
Janis Langins schrieb:
> Thanks to all for the advice regarding my query. I shall try to see if
> I can successfully apply it and maybe with my current skills I should
> not be so ambitious. Re Regina's request for the URL: I cannot
> remember what iit s but this one
> (http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/1/11/0200WG33-WriterGuideOOo.pdf) I
> got from the Open Office site and it seems to be pretty much the same as
> the one I am using with slight differences in pagination. In the URL
> above it is ch. 7, page 233 (NOT ch. 7, p. 259) but everything else,
> including the text is the same. Of course, in theory it is for the
> earlier 3.4 version, not for version 4 of Open Office, which is the one
> I am using.
> JL
That is not the right part for outline numbering. That is about list
numbering. The whole thing is not suitable for lectures.
Look for "Students' Guide for OpenOffice Writer",
http://www.fb4.fh-frankfurt.de/tips/openoffice/dokumentation/ooo_for_students.pdf
Or other guides which are written for students, who will write a paper.
Kind regards
Regina
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Re: Connecting paragraph styles with numbering (list) styles
Posted by Janis Langins <j....@utoronto.ca>.
Thanks to all for the advice regarding my query. I shall try to see
if I can successfully apply it and maybe with my current skills I
should not be so ambitious. Re Regina's request for the URL: I
cannot remember what iit s but this one
(http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/1/11/0200WG33-WriterGuideOOo.pdf)
I got from the Open Office site and it seems to be pretty much the
same as the one I am using with slight differences in pagination. In
the URL above it is ch. 7, page 233 (NOT ch. 7, p. 259) but
everything else, including the text is the same. Of course, in
theory it is for the earlier 3.4 version, not for version 4 of Open
Office, which is the one I am using.
JL
At 01:03 PM 23/08/2013, you wrote:
>Hi Janis,
>
>Janis Langins schrieb:
>>I am trying to construct an outline with nested headings for lectures.
>
>There exists two ways, the default one (easy) and the explicit one
>(advanced skills).
>
>>Following the online manual (ch. 7, p. 259) for Open Office
>
>Can you please post the URL? There are several tutorials around and
>some do not apply to AOO4.0 and some give bad advise.
>
>, I can
>>create both Paragraph styles and Numbering styles but I cannot seem to
>>combine them. Could I get some sources of information please?
>
>If you are not an expert in styles, I suggest start with the default
>outline numbering. For that you do not need any numbering style. You
>find all needed settings in Tools > Outline numbering.
>
>>Second problem: I would like to transfer my new styles (if they work)
>>to a document consisting of bits and pieces of previous documents with
>>different styles and configure them to the new style with consistent
>>renumbering.
>
>Do it the other way round. Make a document template with your new
>settings. Then copy the old stuff and paste it "as unformatted
>text". Then apply the new styles as needed.
>
> There is no information in the manual on this.
>>Microsoft word seems to have a renumber feature on their Outline mode
>>that renumbers a collections of cut and pasted documents to make the
>>heading in the new document sequential and consistent. Open Office does
>>not seem to have this. True? False?
>
>The numbering will be correct, if you remove all hard formatting,
>especially all hard numbering which have made via the buttons. If
>the paragraph have the correct paragraph style assigned, the outline
>numbering will be correct automatically. Therefore my advise to
>paste "as unformatted text". That avoids a lot of trouble.
>
>>Any reference to solutions would be appreciated.
>>Janis Langins
>
>My own texts are in German. But you can ask, if using Tools >
>Outline numbering does not work for you.
>
>Kind regards
>Regina
>
>
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Re: Connecting paragraph styles with numbering (list) styles
Posted by Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>.
Hi Janis,
Janis Langins schrieb:
> I am trying to construct an outline with nested headings for lectures.
There exists two ways, the default one (easy) and the explicit one
(advanced skills).
> Following the online manual (ch. 7, p. 259) for Open Office
Can you please post the URL? There are several tutorials around and some
do not apply to AOO4.0 and some give bad advise.
, I can
> create both Paragraph styles and Numbering styles but I cannot seem to
> combine them. Could I get some sources of information please?
If you are not an expert in styles, I suggest start with the default
outline numbering. For that you do not need any numbering style. You
find all needed settings in Tools > Outline numbering.
> Second problem: I would like to transfer my new styles (if they work)
> to a document consisting of bits and pieces of previous documents with
> different styles and configure them to the new style with consistent
> renumbering.
Do it the other way round. Make a document template with your new
settings. Then copy the old stuff and paste it "as unformatted text".
Then apply the new styles as needed.
There is no information in the manual on this.
> Microsoft word seems to have a renumber feature on their Outline mode
> that renumbers a collections of cut and pasted documents to make the
> heading in the new document sequential and consistent. Open Office does
> not seem to have this. True? False?
The numbering will be correct, if you remove all hard formatting,
especially all hard numbering which have made via the buttons. If the
paragraph have the correct paragraph style assigned, the outline
numbering will be correct automatically. Therefore my advise to paste
"as unformatted text". That avoids a lot of trouble.
> Any reference to solutions would be appreciated.
> Janis Langins
My own texts are in German. But you can ask, if using Tools > Outline
numbering does not work for you.
Kind regards
Regina
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Re: Connecting paragraph styles with numbering (list) styles
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 17:57:21 +0100
Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:33:03 -0400
> Janis Langins <j....@utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
> > I am trying to construct an outline with nested headings for
> > lectures. Following the online manual (ch. 7, p. 259) for Open
> > Office, I can create both Paragraph styles and Numbering styles but I
> > cannot seem to combine them. Could I get some sources of information please?
> > Second problem: I would like to transfer my new styles (if they
> > work) to a document consisting of bits and pieces of previous
> > documents with different styles and configure them to the new style
> > with consistent renumbering. There is no information in the manual on this.
> > Microsoft word seems to have a renumber feature on their Outline mode
> > that renumbers a collections of cut and pasted documents to make the
> > heading in the new document sequential and consistent. Open Office
> > does not seem to have this. True? False?
> > Any reference to solutions would be appreciated.
> > Janis Langins
> >
> >
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>
> I don't do paragraph numbering so am not much help. However this tutorial might get be of help
> http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=58558
>
> I have a vague memory that there is (was?) an extension that applied a new template to an existing document, but cannot find it in the extensions repository. If I do, I'll post back.
>
> --
> Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>
>
>
I've located the Templat Changer extension. It is at
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/template-changer
Whether it works on AOO 4.0, and how it is used, I cannot say
--
Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>
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Re: Connecting paragraph styles with numbering (list) styles
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:33:03 -0400
Janis Langins <j....@utoronto.ca> wrote:
> I am trying to construct an outline with nested headings for
> lectures. Following the online manual (ch. 7, p. 259) for Open
> Office, I can create both Paragraph styles and Numbering styles but I
> cannot seem to combine them. Could I get some sources of information please?
> Second problem: I would like to transfer my new styles (if they
> work) to a document consisting of bits and pieces of previous
> documents with different styles and configure them to the new style
> with consistent renumbering. There is no information in the manual on this.
> Microsoft word seems to have a renumber feature on their Outline mode
> that renumbers a collections of cut and pasted documents to make the
> heading in the new document sequential and consistent. Open Office
> does not seem to have this. True? False?
> Any reference to solutions would be appreciated.
> Janis Langins
>
>
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I don't do paragraph numbering so am not much help. However this tutorial might get be of help
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=58558
I have a vague memory that there is (was?) an extension that applied a new template to an existing document, but cannot find it in the extensions repository. If I do, I'll post back.
--
Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>
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