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Release?

i had some hard disc issues but everything seems like it's working again
now.

how about pushing towards a release...?

- robert



Re: Release?

Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 01:04 +0100, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
> <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 16:30 +0100, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> >> Anything I can do to help?
> >
> > 1. try out trunk (maybe someone could upload a SNAPSHOT)
> 
> I've been using the trunk for a while now. It works fine for me.

that makes two of us :-)

> > 2. (question for after the release) how much work is required on Tika's
> > binary typing before it'd be suitable for use in RAT?
> 
> Tika trunk has a nice new Detector mechanism for detecting file types
> in various different and pluggable ways. See the related discussion
> [1] and the current code [2]. I'm cautiously hopeful of having this
> code released in Tika 0.3 in time for the ApacheCon EU.

great

> I'm not sure about the exact requirements RAT has for type handling,

i'm not sure either off the cuff :-)

> but the Detector feature in Tika should be flexible enough for quite a
> few use cases.

great

i'll take a look once we've cut a release

- robert




Re: Release?

Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
<ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 16:30 +0100, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>> Anything I can do to help?
>
> 1. try out trunk (maybe someone could upload a SNAPSHOT)

I've been using the trunk for a while now. It works fine for me.

> 2. (question for after the release) how much work is required on Tika's
> binary typing before it'd be suitable for use in RAT?

Tika trunk has a nice new Detector mechanism for detecting file types
in various different and pluggable ways. See the related discussion
[1] and the current code [2]. I'm cautiously hopeful of having this
code released in Tika 0.3 in time for the ApacheCon EU.

I'm not sure about the exact requirements RAT has for type handling,
but the Detector feature in Tika should be flexible enough for quite a
few use cases.

[1] http://markmail.org/message/asddqqkhs4ah55gu
[2] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/tika/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/tika/detect/

BR,

Jukka Zitting

Re: Release?

Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 16:30 +0100, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
> <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > how about pushing towards a release...?
> 
> +1 The trunk is much better than the earlier releases in the central
> Maven repository.
>
> Anything I can do to help?

1. try out trunk (maybe someone could upload a SNAPSHOT)
2. (question for after the release) how much work is required on Tika's
binary typing before it'd be suitable for use in RAT?

- robert



Re: Release?

Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
<ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> how about pushing towards a release...?

+1 The trunk is much better than the earlier releases in the central
Maven repository.

Anything I can do to help?

BR,

Jukka Zitting

Re: Release?

Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 09:17 +0100, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
> On 2009-02-12, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> > On 2009-02-12, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> >> works for me now on linux, using a virgin user with a clean m2
> >> repository
> 
> > Same here, will try a clean build on Windows later at work.
> 
> Worked.

cool :-)

- robert



Re: Release?

Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On 2009-02-12, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 2009-02-12, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>> works for me now on linux, using a virgin user with a clean m2
>> repository

> Same here, will try a clean build on Windows later at work.

Worked.

Stefan

Re: Release?

Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On 2009-02-12, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 11:05 +0100, Stefan Bodewig wrote:

> <snip>

>> Right now I'm stuck with a clean mvn build (I knew I'd type that ;-):

> i think that the problem was that the plugin wanted to use the plugin to
> report on itself. once there's a release, then the old version can
> report on the new but for now, i've commented the report out.

> works for me now on linux, using a virgin user with a clean m2
> repository

Same here, will try a clean build on Windows later at work.

Stefan

Re: Release?

Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
thanks for taking a look

On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 11:05 +0100, Stefan Bodewig wrote:

<snip>

> Right now I'm stuck with a clean mvn build (I knew I'd type that ;-):

:-)

<snip>

> No idea what to do with this.

i think that the problem was that the plugin wanted to use the plugin to
report on itself. once there's a release, then the old version can
report on the new but for now, i've commented the report out.

works for me now on linux, using a virgin user with a clean m2
repository

- robert



Re: Release?

Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On 2009-02-10, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:

> The AntUnit tests fail for me as well, I'll see if I can make them run
> outside of mvn.

OK, we have a bunch of different issues, some of which I have
addressed:

* The Ant tasklib's JUnit tests failed on Windows, fixed now.

* There is/was a ClassLoader issue that made the testCustomMatcher
  tests fail even when run inside Ant (the test class must be loaded
  via the same classloader as the rat task itself or otherwise the
  tast class implements a "different" IHeaderMatcher).

  Fixed for the case where AntUnit is run inside Ant, but currently
  javac fails when I run the tests from inside Maven since <javac>
  doesn't seem to find tools.jar - I'm way outside of my mvn foo here.

* For some reasons the AntUnit tests fail when the report goes to
  Ant's logging system instead of a file.  This looks like a bug in
  AntUnit that I may find time to address later (way later, I'm
  afraid).

  Right now I can see the log is OK, so the tests are supposed to
  pass.  I've disabled the tests.

Right now I'm stuck with a clean mvn build (I knew I'd type that ;-):

,----
| $ mvn clean package > log
| $ tail -n 40 log
| [au:antunit] Target: testWithASLUnknownSentToFile took 0,172 sec
| [au:antunit] Target: testWithReportSentToFile took 0,094 sec
| [INFO] Executed tasks
| [INFO] [jar:jar]
| [INFO] Building jar: C:\OSS\rat\rat\rat-anttasks\target\rat-anttasks-0.6-SNAPSHO
| T.jar
| [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
| [INFO] Building RAT Maven Plugin
| [INFO]    task-segment: [clean, package]
| [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
| [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
| [ERROR] BUILD FAILURE
| [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
| [INFO] A required plugin was not found: Plugin could not be found - check that t
| he goal name is correct: Unable to download the artifact from any repository
| 
| Try downloading the file manually from the project website.
| 
| Then, install it using the command:
|     mvn install:install-file -DgroupId=org.apache.rat -DartifactId=rat-maven-plu
| gin -Dversion=0.6-SNAPSHOT -Dpackaging=maven-plugin -Dfile=/path/to/file
| 
| Alternatively, if you host your own repository you can deploy the file there:
|     mvn deploy:deploy-file -DgroupId=org.apache.rat -DartifactId=rat-maven-plugi
| n -Dversion=0.6-SNAPSHOT -Dpackaging=maven-plugin -Dfile=/path/to/file -Durl=[ur
| l] -DrepositoryId=[id]
| 
| 
|   org.apache.rat:rat-maven-plugin:maven-plugin:0.6-SNAPSHOT
| 
| from the specified remote repositories:
|   central (http://repo1.maven.org/maven2)
| 
|   org.apache.rat:rat-maven-plugin:maven-plugin:0.6-SNAPSHOT
| 
| from the specified remote repositories:
|   central (http://repo1.maven.org/maven2)
| 
| [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
| [INFO] For more information, run Maven with the -e switch
| [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
| [INFO] Total time: 11 seconds
| [INFO] Finished at: Tue Feb 10 11:03:36 CET 2009
| [INFO] Final Memory: 25M/46M
| [INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
`----

No idea what to do with this.

Stefan

Re: Release?

Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On 2009-02-10, Jochen Wiedmann <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
> <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>> i had some hard disc issues but everything seems like it's working again
>> now.

>> how about pushing towards a release...?

> What's been blocking me lately, has been the trouble with the Antunit
> tests. If that is fixed, 'd be ready.

I haven't looked at the code since we moved to "mvn only" at all.

The AntUnit tests fail for me as well, I'll see if I can make them run
outside of mvn.

Stefan

Re: Release?

Posted by Jochen Wiedmann <jo...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
<ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> i had some hard disc issues but everything seems like it's working again
> now.
>
> how about pushing towards a release...?

What's been blocking me lately, has been the trouble with the Antunit
tests. If that is fixed, 'd be ready.

Jochen


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Re: Release?

Posted by Stefan Bodewig <st...@freenet.de>.
On 2009-02-09, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> how about pushing towards a release...?

I must admit that I've been completely out of rat development so I
have no idea what has changed at all, but it would probably be good to
have an initial ASF release anyway.

Stefan

Re: Release?

Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 13:31 +0000, Ross Gardler wrote:
> 2009/2/23 Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>:
> > On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 15:47 +0000, Ross Gardler wrote:
> >> 2009/2/13 Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>:
> >> > On 2009-02-12, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 14:24 +0100, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
> >> >>> On 2009-02-12, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
> >> >
> 
> ...
> 
> >> >> it was much easier for me over at googlecode.
> >> >
> >> > Why is that?
> >>
> >> Any thoughts?
> >
> > i liked the short, easy release cycles
> 
> I don't understand what has changed. Build the release and call a
> vote. I appreciate on GoogleCode you didn't need to call a vote, but
> it's just 3 days delay or am I oversimplifying it?

you're right that it's probably just a matter of attitude

over in the commons, the bar for releases was really high (usually a
typo in the documentation would be enough to cut another candidate) and
over in james, releases often take months to be approved.

> >
> >> I think a release is in order. Perhaps someone can build a release candidate.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > volunteers?
> 
> In my opinion, this is the problem, not the long release cycle. It's
> whether someone has the cycles to do it (we've all had the cycles to
> read and comment on this thread, are we asting time?)

let's give it a go. unless anyone else jumps in, i'll act as release
manager for this one and do the preparation tomorrow 

> >> > The only thing that is slowing us down is that we are not trying to
> >> > move at all.  That nobody of us has any clue of where RAT would fit in
> >> > is big part of that.  I have no idea myself.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure either, but then it's not really ready to leave the
> >> incubator. We need users who are going to add features
> >
> > RAT works well enough for existing users to have unsufficient motivation
> > to code new features
> 
> Existing users within the ASF, but what about beyond it? Just last
> week I was with a major open source project that wasn't aware of
> potential licence conflicts that I was aware of via Ohloh. They wanted
> to know where these conflicts were - RAT, with a little work, could do
> that. We need to evangalise about RAT and encourage these people to
> use it. 

cool

i think that this probably needs the ontology stuff (but that shouldn't
be too hard to add)

> The first stage of this is to create a release.

+1

- robert



Re: Release?

Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
2009/2/23 Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>:
> On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 15:47 +0000, Ross Gardler wrote:
>> 2009/2/13 Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>:
>> > On 2009-02-12, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 14:24 +0100, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
>> >>> On 2009-02-12, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>> >

...

>> >> it was much easier for me over at googlecode.
>> >
>> > Why is that?
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>
> i liked the short, easy release cycles

I don't understand what has changed. Build the release and call a
vote. I appreciate on GoogleCode you didn't need to call a vote, but
it's just 3 days delay or am I oversimplifying it?

>
>> I think a release is in order. Perhaps someone can build a release candidate.
>
> +1
>
> volunteers?

In my opinion, this is the problem, not the long release cycle. It's
whether someone has the cycles to do it (we've all had the cycles to
read and comment on this thread, are we asting time?)

>> > The only thing that is slowing us down is that we are not trying to
>> > move at all.  That nobody of us has any clue of where RAT would fit in
>> > is big part of that.  I have no idea myself.
>>
>> I'm not sure either, but then it's not really ready to leave the
>> incubator. We need users who are going to add features
>
> RAT works well enough for existing users to have unsufficient motivation
> to code new features

Existing users within the ASF, but what about beyond it? Just last
week I was with a major open source project that wasn't aware of
potential licence conflicts that I was aware of via Ohloh. They wanted
to know where these conflicts were - RAT, with a little work, could do
that. We need to evangalise about RAT and encourage these people to
use it. The first stage of this is to create a release.

OK, I'm going to stop wasting my time saying it and possibly build a
release (but not today, I just returned from two weeks of solid
meetings and have endless reports to write - can we make RAT do that
too?)

Ross

Re: Release?

Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On 2009-02-23, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 15:47 +0000, Ross Gardler wrote:
>> 2009/2/13 Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>:

>>> The only thing that is slowing us down is that we are not trying to
>>> move at all.  That nobody of us has any clue of where RAT would fit in
>>> is big part of that.  I have no idea myself.

>> I'm not sure either, but then it's not really ready to leave the
>> incubator. We need users who are going to add features

> RAT works well enough for existing users to have unsufficient motivation
> to code new features

True.

I became a RAT committer at Google because I wanted to have an Ant
task, after that RAT was "done" for me.

>> We should think about encouraging
>> people to bring other audit work into this project too (i.e. the work
>> that creates http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html could, possibly,
>> be usefully be applied here)

> a big +1

To pile up more projects with no idea where to go when it is time to
leave the incubator? 8-)

Honestly I think we should know where we want to end up/what we want
RAT to be before we add more weight.

Stefan

Re: Release?

Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 15:47 +0000, Ross Gardler wrote:
> 2009/2/13 Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>:
> > On 2009-02-12, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 14:24 +0100, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
> >>> On 2009-02-12, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >>>> The problem I see is that RAT will never leave the Incubator without some
> >>>> progress.
> >
> >>> We might be too comfortable here.
> >
> >> possibly
> >
> >> i was asked to move RAT here by fellow members. RAT had become important
> >> to apache and control by the foundation was necessary. as far as i was
> >> concerned, the incubator was just a means to that end.
> >
> > I know.
> >
> >> it was much easier for me over at googlecode.
> >
> > Why is that?
> 
> Any thoughts?

i liked the short, easy release cycles 

> I think a release is in order. Perhaps someone can build a release candidate.

+1

volunteers?

> > The only thing that is slowing us down is that we are not trying to
> > move at all.  That nobody of us has any clue of where RAT would fit in
> > is big part of that.  I have no idea myself.
> 
> I'm not sure either, but then it's not really ready to leave the
> incubator. We need users who are going to add features 

RAT works well enough for existing users to have unsufficient motivation
to code new features

the problem which lead to RAT's creation seems to have been solved by a
combination of the existinance of RAT, improvements to the incubator
system and fixes to Maven

of the features i would like to see, when i looked into them i doubted
that they were a good fit for the RAT code base. most likely, i'd end up
patching libraries elsewhere and then just adding dependencies, or else
creating a new micro application for them.

> and polish.

polish takes energy :-)

> Perhaps we should set something up that will scan all projects in the
> incubator and provide reports. 

scan does something similar that for the distribution directories. i
would like to see this released since i think it satisfies a real need
at apache. 

that's something i had in mind. to do this properly requires (i think)
detached descriptors, improved binary recognition and jar-license
bindings. we need a RAT release before these features could be added.

> We should think about encouraging
> people to bring other audit work into this project too (i.e. the work
> that creates http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html could, possibly,
> be usefully be applied here)

a big +1

- robert



Re: Release?

Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
2009/2/13 Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>:
> On 2009-02-12, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 14:24 +0100, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
>>> On 2009-02-12, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>
>>>> The problem I see is that RAT will never leave the Incubator without some
>>>> progress.
>
>>> We might be too comfortable here.
>
>> possibly
>
>> i was asked to move RAT here by fellow members. RAT had become important
>> to apache and control by the foundation was necessary. as far as i was
>> concerned, the incubator was just a means to that end.
>
> I know.
>
>> it was much easier for me over at googlecode.
>
> Why is that?

Any thoughts?

I think a release is in order. Perhaps someone can build a release candidate.

> The only thing that is slowing us down is that we are not trying to
> move at all.  That nobody of us has any clue of where RAT would fit in
> is big part of that.  I have no idea myself.

I'm not sure either, but then it's not really ready to leave the
incubator. We need users who are going to add features and polish.
Perhaps we should set something up that will scan all projects in the
incubator and provide reports. We should think about encouraging
people to bring other audit work into this project too (i.e. the work
that creates http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html could, possibly,
be usefully be applied here)

Ross


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--
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development and use in education
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Re: Release?

Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On 2009-02-13, Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org> wrote:

> I'll just take a few minutes now to fill the status with what I know.

The things missing are the nameprotect check (I didn't feel like
setting up an account there) and potentially some paperwork (grants).

Stefan

Re: Release?

Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On 2009-02-12, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 14:24 +0100, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
>> On 2009-02-12, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:

>>> The problem I see is that RAT will never leave the Incubator without some
>>> progress.

>> We might be too comfortable here.

> possibly

> i was asked to move RAT here by fellow members. RAT had become important
> to apache and control by the foundation was necessary. as far as i was
> concerned, the incubator was just a means to that end.

I know.

> it was much easier for me over at googlecode.

Why is that?

All of us are experienced ASFers, if we really wanted to leave the
Incubator we'd do so in no time.  And you'd certainly not have any
problem getting 3 binding +1s for a release vote either.

The only thing that is slowing us down is that we are not trying to
move at all.  That nobody of us has any clue of where RAT would fit in
is big part of that.  I have no idea myself.

I'll just take a few minutes now to fill the status with what I know.
Right now I have no idea what the target for RAT could be, which makes
the first table a bit difficult.

On an unrelated note, I'll set up a Gump build for RAT.

Stefan

Re: Release?

Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 14:24 +0100, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
> On 2009-02-12, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
> 
> > The problem I see is that RAT will never leave the Incubator without some
> > progress.
> 
> We might be too comfortable here.

possibly

i was asked to move RAT here by fellow members. RAT had become important
to apache and control by the foundation was necessary. as far as i was
concerned, the incubator was just a means to that end.

it was much easier for me over at googlecode. i no longer have a short
code-release cycle here. i might have been much more motivated to push
the project forward into new areas. 

it wouldn't take much now to release scan and get more projects using it
but i have interests elsewhere and only so many cycles

> > The least that needs to be done is work through
> > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/rat.html - for instance the
> > website url has not been filled in even though you do have
> > one.
> 
> I didn't realize this hadn't been done yet, I've just filled in the
> easy bits but lack the time to work through all of it ATM.

i suppose i should get that fixed

i suppose that i don't see RAT graduation as a realistic aim (i can't
see where it would fit into the apache structure) so i'm unlikely to
prioritise the paperwork. if someone could find a suitable project
willing to accept RAT as a sub-project then that might change...

- robert



Re: Release?

Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On 2009-02-12, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:

> The problem I see is that RAT will never leave the Incubator without some
> progress.

We might be too comfortable here.

> The least that needs to be done is work through
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/rat.html - for instance the
> website url has not been filled in even though you do have
> one.

I didn't realize this hadn't been done yet, I've just filled in the
easy bits but lack the time to work through all of it ATM.

Stefan

RE: Release?

Posted by Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:bodewig@apache.org]
> Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2009 1:48 PM
> To: rat-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Release?
> 
> On 2009-02-11, Robert Burrell Donkin
> <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > we've had a contribution of some license fixing code but really RAT has
> > lost momentum...
> 
> I'm not sure it ever had that much once it created the first useful
> reports.
> 
> RAT now more or less does what needs to be done and most remaining
> stuff is cosmetics IMHO, it really is more of an infrastructure
> component (reminds me of the state of Gump, in a way).
> 
> Sure it could be nice to extract some code here or there or refactor a
> few things but RAT is not the primary project anybody of us is working
> on - and there is no urgency to change anything.

The problem I see is that RAT will never leave the Incubator without some
progress. The least that needs to be done is work through
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/rat.html - for instance the website url
has not been filled in even though you do have one. Other stuff can be
updated at this point. Note sure whether this 'paperwork' situation will get
in the way of a release, considering you will need to get votes from the
incubator.

Gav...


> 
> Stefan


Re: Release?

Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On 2009-02-11, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> we've had a contribution of some license fixing code but really RAT has
> lost momentum...

I'm not sure it ever had that much once it created the first useful
reports.

RAT now more or less does what needs to be done and most remaining
stuff is cosmetics IMHO, it really is more of an infrastructure
component (reminds me of the state of Gump, in a way).

Sure it could be nice to extract some code here or there or refactor a
few things but RAT is not the primary project anybody of us is working
on - and there is no urgency to change anything.

Stefan

Re: Release?

Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 06:03 +0100, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
> On 2009-02-09, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > how about pushing towards a release...?
> 
> I must admit that I've been completely out of rat development so I
> have no idea what has changed at all, but it would probably be good to
> have an initial ASF release anyway.

+1

i started working on a distribution auditing system (reports at
http://incubator.apache.org/audit/) a while ago (which is in
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/rat/main/trunk/scan/) but
haven't done much work on main.

we've had a contribution of some license fixing code but really RAT has
lost momentum...

- robert



Re: Release?

Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On 2009-02-09, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> how about pushing towards a release...?

I must admit that I've been completely out of rat development so I
have no idea what has changed at all, but it would probably be good to
have an initial ASF release anyway.

Stefan