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Posted to dev@httpd.apache.org by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net> on 2006/09/01 21:25:06 UTC
[Vote] create modules-dev@httpd.apache.org?
Project Committee Members...
Adopt modules-dev@httpd.apache.org, seeded from apache-modules@covalent.net
current subscribers, for module authors to use for peer developer support?
(API 'users', essentially.)
[ ] +1
[ ] +/-0
[ ] -1
I'd actually expect some feedback from the modperl folks since there is some
overlap here.
Also, could add a second moderator to back up Mads (thanks for the offer, sir!)
if someone is interested in the role.
Please vote.
Re: [Vote] create modules-dev@httpd.apache.org?
Posted by Nick Kew <ni...@webthing.com>.
On Friday 01 September 2006 20:25, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Project Committee Members...
>
> Adopt modules-dev@httpd.apache.org, seeded from apache-modules@covalent.net
> current subscribers, for module authors to use for peer developer support?
> (API 'users', essentially.)
>
> [ ] +1
> [ ] +/-0
> [ ] -1
+1 on creating the list
As regards moving people, that shouldn't be done without consent.
But it would probably be fair to make it an opt-out thing, so that
apache-modules subscribers get a message "we're moving, ...
you'll be automatically moved unless you opt out".
--
Nick Kew
Re: [Vote] create modules-dev@httpd.apache.org?
Posted by Sander Temme <sc...@apache.org>.
On Sep 1, 2006, at 9:25 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Adopt modules-dev@httpd.apache.org, seeded from apache-
> modules@covalent.net
> current subscribers, for module authors to use for peer developer
> support?
> (API 'users', essentially.)
>
> [ ] +1
> [ ] +/-0
> [ ] -1
+1 on adopting the list.
-1 on auto-migrating. We can announce, re-announce, eventually bounce
traffic to the old list address with a message on where the new one
is. People who don't get that clue, we don't want on the new list. (:
S.
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Re: [Vote] create modules-dev@httpd.apache.org?
Posted by Joshua Slive <jo...@slive.ca>.
On 9/1/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <wr...@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> Project Committee Members...
>
> Adopt modules-dev@httpd.apache.org, seeded from apache-modules@covalent.net
> current subscribers, for module authors to use for peer developer support?
> (API 'users', essentially.)
+1
Joshua.
Re: [Vote] create modules-dev@httpd.apache.org?
Posted by Graham Leggett <mi...@sharp.fm>.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Adopt modules-dev@httpd.apache.org, seeded from apache-modules@covalent.net
> current subscribers, for module authors to use for peer developer support?
> (API 'users', essentially.)
+1.
Regards,
Graham
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Re: [Vote] create modules-dev@httpd.apache.org?
Posted by "Roy T. Fielding" <fi...@gbiv.com>.
On Sep 1, 2006, at 12:25 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Project Committee Members...
>
> Adopt modules-dev@httpd.apache.org, seeded from apache-
> modules@covalent.net
> current subscribers, for module authors to use for peer developer
> support?
> (API 'users', essentially.)
+1 on creating the list, -1 on seeding it with subscribers. Just notify
of the move on the old list. There are privacy/legal issues with moving
a list of addresses from one company to another.
....Roy
Re: [Vote] create modules-dev@httpd.apache.org?
Posted by Astrid 'Kess' Stolper <ke...@kess-net.de>.
On Friday 01 September 2006 21:25, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Project Committee Members...
>
> Adopt modules-dev@httpd.apache.org, seeded from apache-modules@covalent.net
> current subscribers, for module authors to use for peer developer support?
> (API 'users', essentially.)
>
> [ ] +1
> [ ] +/-0
> [ ] -1
+1 for the list
-1 for seeding the list with addresses
> Also, could add a second moderator to back up Mads (thanks for the offer,
> sir!) if someone is interested in the role.
I would also help moderating.
Kess
Re: [Vote] create modules-dev@httpd.apache.org?
Posted by Bill Stoddard <bi...@wstoddard.com>.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Project Committee Members...
>
> Adopt modules-dev@httpd.apache.org,
+1
> seeded from apache-modules@covalent.net current subscribers,
-1
Bill
Re: [Vote] create modules-dev@httpd.apache.org?
Posted by Brad Nicholes <BN...@novell.com>.
>>> On 9/1/2006 at 1:25 PM, in message <44...@rowe-clan.net>,
"William A.
Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> Project Committee Members...
>
> Adopt modules-dev@httpd.apache.org,
+1
Re: [Vote] create modules-dev@httpd.apache.org?
Posted by "Philip M. Gollucci" <pg...@p6m7g8.com>.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Project Committee Members...
>
> Adopt modules-dev@httpd.apache.org, seeded from apache-modules@covalent.net
> current subscribers, for module authors to use for peer developer support?
> (API 'users', essentially.)
>
> [X] +1
> [ ] +/-0
> [ ] -1
>
> I'd actually expect some feedback from the modperl folks since there is some
> overlap here.
I'll be reading the list once its created -- (mod_perl PMC)
>
> Also, could add a second moderator to back up Mads (thanks for the offer, sir!)
> if someone is interested in the role.
Sign me up.
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Re: [Vote] create modules-dev@httpd.apache.org?
Posted by Jorge Schrauwen <jo...@gmail.com>.
Actually i was looking for that a while back and was suprized it was
at covalent.
So My non couting vote is +1
I'd vote-0 on the moving over...
a mail with details how to resubscribe or something simular sounds better
Re: [Vote] create modules-dev@httpd.apache.org?
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
On Sep 1, 2006, at 3:25 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Project Committee Members...
>
> Adopt modules-dev@httpd.apache.org,
+1
> seeded from apache-modules@covalent.net
> current subscribers,
-1 (we shouldn't just blindly move 'em over)
Re: [Vote] create modules-dev@httpd.apache.org?
Posted by Erik Abele <er...@codefaktor.de>.
On 01.09.2006, at 21:25, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Project Committee Members...
>
> Adopt modules-dev@httpd.apache.org, seeded from apache-
> modules@covalent.net
> current subscribers, for module authors to use for peer developer
> support?
> (API 'users', essentially.)
>
> [X] +1
> [ ] +/-0
> [ ] -1
With a -1 on automatically moving subscribers - either please send
clear instructions on how to move oneself or perhaps, as Nick
suggested, make it an opt-out process with at least two reminders
(though that might be harder to manage/track/... and not really worth
it?).
Cheers,
Erik
Re: [Vote] create modules-dev@httpd.apache.org?
Posted by Ruediger Pluem <rp...@apache.org>.
On 09/01/2006 09:25 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Project Committee Members...
>
> Adopt modules-dev@httpd.apache.org, seeded from apache-modules@covalent.net
> current subscribers, for module authors to use for peer developer support?
> (API 'users', essentially.)
>
> [ ] +1
> [ ] +/-0
> [ ] -1
+1 on the list
-0 on moving the subscribers
Regards
Rüdiger
Re: [Vote] create modules-dev@httpd.apache.org?
Posted by Paul Querna <ch...@force-elite.com>.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Project Committee Members...
>
> Adopt modules-dev@httpd.apache.org, seeded from apache-modules@covalent.net
> current subscribers, for module authors to use for peer developer support?
> (API 'users', essentially.)
>
> [X] +1
> [ ] +/-0
> [ ] -1
[Results] [Vote] create modules-dev@httpd.apache.org?
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
> Adopt modules-dev@httpd.apache.org, seeded from apache-modules@covalent.net
> current subscribers, for module authors to use for peer developer support?
> (API 'users', essentially.)
The vote to create...
+1 pquerna, wrowe, slive, fielding, jim, bnicholes, rpluem, niq, pgollucci,
graham, kess, erikabele, sctemme, stoddard
+/-0 none
-1 none
So I'm proceeding to queue up this request and update the page lists.xml.
Moderators who stepped up are mads and pgollucci.
But the vote to seed...
+1 wrowe...
+/-0 rpluem, niq
-1 fielding, jim, kess, erikabele, sctemme, stoddard
definitely doesn't pass, so we will start fresh with an invitation to the old
list participants, and a pointer to the old list archives on MARC for research.
Bill
Re: [Vote] create modules-dev@httpd.apache.org?
Posted by Mads Toftum <ma...@toftum.dk>.
On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 03:06:37PM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> The only thing that I would suggest is we have at least three
> PMC members participating (that old 'oversite' thing). Not that there is
> much to oversee other than tell folks to take the real bugs/design issues
> back to dev@httpd (or dev@apr) and to take end user questions up with the
> module author or users@httpd list.
>
I know that you and Nick follow the list, and I'm pretty sure that other
pmc members do as well (and otherwise maybe me with my member hat on
might do the trick).
vh
Mads Toftum
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Re: [Vote] create modules-dev@httpd.apache.org?
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Project Committee Members...
>
> Adopt modules-dev@httpd.apache.org, seeded from apache-modules@covalent.net
> current subscribers, for module authors to use for peer developer support?
> (API 'users', essentially.)
>
> [X] +1
> [ ] +/-0
> [ ] -1
I believe its good to have an email based hangout for our module authoring
community. The only thing that I would suggest is we have at least three
PMC members participating (that old 'oversite' thing). Not that there is
much to oversee other than tell folks to take the real bugs/design issues
back to dev@httpd (or dev@apr) and to take end user questions up with the
module author or users@httpd list.
It's nutty to expect modules authors need to follow all the internals here
at dev@httpd, it's a work in progress. Folks are regularly brushed off with
a 'see the code' in response to basic authoring questions. BUT when they
have a productive suggestion, they should be encouraged to bring it -here-,
not debate the API design on modules-dev@ (at least not if they want their
suggestion considered and implemented).
My 2c, it is a perfectly rational fit here at the httpd project.