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Posted to dev@bval.apache.org by Matt Benson <gu...@gmail.com> on 2010/08/06 17:29:12 UTC

creating a branch

All:
  I have been experimenting with some of the type-related code in bval-core and bval-jsr303.  As I mentioned before, I am using commons-lang3's TypeUtils class for this work, and as I don't feel like doing weird temporary-copying things, I am thinking of creating a branch for experimentation that permits SNAPSHOT dependencies so that I can get my ideas committed someplace, particularly because some of them might bear discussion.  Does anyone have a preference on what I name this branch?  I don't really want to name it anything specific to my own name or anything like that, because I have no intention of discouraging others from working in this branch.  This is only necessary to keep lang3's release schedule from becoming a blocker.

Thanks for listening,
Matt

Re: creating a branch

Posted by Matt Benson <gu...@gmail.com>.
On Aug 6, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:

> 
> On Aug 6, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Matt Benson wrote:
> 
>> All:
>> I have been experimenting with some of the type-related code in bval-core and bval-jsr303.  As I mentioned before, I am using commons-lang3's TypeUtils class for this work, and as I don't feel like doing weird temporary-copying things, I am thinking of creating a branch for experimentation that permits SNAPSHOT dependencies so that I can get my ideas committed someplace, particularly because some of them might bear discussion.  Does anyone have a preference on what I name this branch?  I don't really want to name it anything specific to my own name or anything like that, because I have no intention of discouraging others from working in this branch.  This is only necessary to keep lang3's release schedule from becoming a blocker.
> 
> Hi Matt,
> Cool. Suggest you create a "sandbox/lang3" (or similarly named directory). Personally I prefer "sandbox" to a "branch" for this type of work. Alternative, is to generate a near-term "release" branch and do the lang3-related development in trunk...
> 

Kevan:
  I could hang with the sandbox approach.  Among other things, not being a true branch means I could do nonstandard things like use svn:externals for any module that doesn't have changes in the sandbox.  Unless there are objections (and I couldn't imagine what they might be), I'll plan on going this route.  Thanks!

-Matt

> --kevan

Re: creating a branch

Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Aug 6, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Matt Benson wrote:

> All:
>  I have been experimenting with some of the type-related code in bval-core and bval-jsr303.  As I mentioned before, I am using commons-lang3's TypeUtils class for this work, and as I don't feel like doing weird temporary-copying things, I am thinking of creating a branch for experimentation that permits SNAPSHOT dependencies so that I can get my ideas committed someplace, particularly because some of them might bear discussion.  Does anyone have a preference on what I name this branch?  I don't really want to name it anything specific to my own name or anything like that, because I have no intention of discouraging others from working in this branch.  This is only necessary to keep lang3's release schedule from becoming a blocker.

Hi Matt,
Cool. Suggest you create a "sandbox/lang3" (or similarly named directory). Personally I prefer "sandbox" to a "branch" for this type of work. Alternative, is to generate a near-term "release" branch and do the lang3-related development in trunk...

--kevan

Re: creating a branch

Posted by Matt Benson <gu...@gmail.com>.
On Aug 6, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Donald Woods wrote:

> Just a branch for local builds or will you be wanting to publish
> SNAPSHOT artifacts?
> 

I hadn't considered publishing anything from this branch other than locally.  :)  -Matt

> -Donald
> 
> 
> On 8/6/10 11:29 AM, Matt Benson wrote:
>> All:
>>  I have been experimenting with some of the type-related code in bval-core and bval-jsr303.  As I mentioned before, I am using commons-lang3's TypeUtils class for this work, and as I don't feel like doing weird temporary-copying things, I am thinking of creating a branch for experimentation that permits SNAPSHOT dependencies so that I can get my ideas committed someplace, particularly because some of them might bear discussion.  Does anyone have a preference on what I name this branch?  I don't really want to name it anything specific to my own name or anything like that, because I have no intention of discouraging others from working in this branch.  This is only necessary to keep lang3's release schedule from becoming a blocker.
>> 
>> Thanks for listening,
>> Matt

Re: creating a branch

Posted by Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org>.
Just a branch for local builds or will you be wanting to publish
SNAPSHOT artifacts?

-Donald


On 8/6/10 11:29 AM, Matt Benson wrote:
> All:
>   I have been experimenting with some of the type-related code in bval-core and bval-jsr303.  As I mentioned before, I am using commons-lang3's TypeUtils class for this work, and as I don't feel like doing weird temporary-copying things, I am thinking of creating a branch for experimentation that permits SNAPSHOT dependencies so that I can get my ideas committed someplace, particularly because some of them might bear discussion.  Does anyone have a preference on what I name this branch?  I don't really want to name it anything specific to my own name or anything like that, because I have no intention of discouraging others from working in this branch.  This is only necessary to keep lang3's release schedule from becoming a blocker.
> 
> Thanks for listening,
> Matt

Re: creating a branch

Posted by Matt Benson <gu...@gmail.com>.
On Sep 28, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Donald Woods wrote:

> Hi Matt, looks like you've been making a lot of progress with this.
> 

Yeah, I'm using this in $work on a mean deadline.  :)

> Any updates on the release schedule for the new commons-lang3?

:(  Perhaps I need to make a little noise there.

> 
> Also how is commons-proxy2-stub being used in bval-jsr303d?

I created proxy2-stub to have a typesafe way of creating Annotation proxies, and went ahead and designed that on top of a more generic proxy stubbing mechanism.  As I have mentioned here and there the approach is inspired by Mockito's stubbing mechanisms.  I believe I first brought proxy2-stub into bval-jsr303d for convenience in creating unit tests:  especially considering that the domain explictly IS dynamic constraints, it seemed appropriate.  proxy2-stub became more of an optional dependency I suppose (and I'll mark it as such) when I began using it in the ConstraintAppender implementation for the dynamic Values and Values.Labeled constraints I baked into bval-jsr303d as a verification of the adequacy of the ConstraintAppender interface.

>  Is the
> dynamic api prototype support, which could remain in sandbox after we
> pull the commons-lang3 updates over into trunk?
> 

I had a little trouble parsing that--I think you're asking could the dynamic stuff remain behind "on probation" in the sandbox after integrating the lang3 changes to the other modules.  I don't see why not--there should be no dependency on bval-jsr303d from any of the other modules.

-Matt

> 
> -Donald
> 
> 
> On 8/6/10 11:29 AM, Matt Benson wrote:
>> All:
>>  I have been experimenting with some of the type-related code in bval-core and bval-jsr303.  As I mentioned before, I am using commons-lang3's TypeUtils class for this work, and as I don't feel like doing weird temporary-copying things, I am thinking of creating a branch for experimentation that permits SNAPSHOT dependencies so that I can get my ideas committed someplace, particularly because some of them might bear discussion.  Does anyone have a preference on what I name this branch?  I don't really want to name it anything specific to my own name or anything like that, because I have no intention of discouraging others from working in this branch.  This is only necessary to keep lang3's release schedule from becoming a blocker.
>> 
>> Thanks for listening,
>> Matt

Re: creating a branch

Posted by Donald Woods <dw...@apache.org>.
Hi Matt, looks like you've been making a lot of progress with this.

Any updates on the release schedule for the new commons-lang3?

Also how is commons-proxy2-stub being used in bval-jsr303d?  Is the
dynamic api prototype support, which could remain in sandbox after we
pull the commons-lang3 updates over into trunk?


-Donald


On 8/6/10 11:29 AM, Matt Benson wrote:
> All:
>   I have been experimenting with some of the type-related code in bval-core and bval-jsr303.  As I mentioned before, I am using commons-lang3's TypeUtils class for this work, and as I don't feel like doing weird temporary-copying things, I am thinking of creating a branch for experimentation that permits SNAPSHOT dependencies so that I can get my ideas committed someplace, particularly because some of them might bear discussion.  Does anyone have a preference on what I name this branch?  I don't really want to name it anything specific to my own name or anything like that, because I have no intention of discouraging others from working in this branch.  This is only necessary to keep lang3's release schedule from becoming a blocker.
> 
> Thanks for listening,
> Matt