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Fwd: [CONF] Apache Trafodion > Events

Hi all,

It seems our events page in the wiki got misused to promote something else
than events Trafodion community members are participating in. See below.

Are we having a permission schema that is too liberal?

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

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This page outlines the future and past events contributors of the Trafodion
project will or have participated in.
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Table of Content

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Future Events


Where


Where When Event Wiki Page Web Site When  Event  Wiki Page  Web Site Shanghai,
China July 23-24, 2015 China Hadoop Summit 2015 China Hadoop Summit
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=60624047>
http://www.chinahadoop.com/english.html Budapest, Hungary Sept 28-30,
2015 Apache
Big Data EU 2015 Apache BigData EU 2015
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=59689892>
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe Budapest,
Hungary Oct 1-2, 2015 ApacheCon CORE EU 2015 ApacheCon Core EU 2015
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=59689898>
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-core-europe


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RE: [CONF] Apache Trafodion > Events

Posted by Dave Birdsall <da...@esgyn.com>.
Dunno but it was frequent. Every time there was a vulnerability it was found
within a day or so. And she was keeping pages secure most of the time.

And that was our experience here. I relaxed the permissions last Thursday
and two business days later we were spammed.

Can I suggest an alternative? Can I just put simple instructions on the root
wiki page on how to contribute to the wiki? (The instructions would be: Get
a confluence ID, send an e-mail to the dev list requesting access. This
seems to work very well for the incubator wiki. I saw two such requests this
morning, for example, and they were answered within hours.)

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zeller@esgyn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 9:53 AM
To: dev <de...@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [CONF] Apache Trafodion > Events

I'll be happy to help with it. This has been once incident in a few days, is
that right? How many times per week did Susan have to clean up spam?

Hans

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Dave Birdsall <da...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

> I am personally not willing to spend the time watching for spam.
>
> Susan had this problem constantly with the old pre-Apache wiki; I'd
> prefer not to spend my time relearning her lessons.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zeller@esgyn.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 9:36 AM
> To: dev <de...@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [CONF] Apache Trafodion > Events
>
> Hi,
>
> It was me who suggested that we open up the wiki to contributions from
> anyone who has an account.
>
> Could we try to manage the spam somehow before going back to a
> stricter permission model? To sign up for an account, there is
> something similar to a Captcha, so it's not totally open. I'm not sure
> whether a user must confirm their email address before being allowed
> to contribute.
>
> If we get a couple of spam entries per real contribution from the
> outside, I would think that's a price worth paying at this point. If
> it's much worse than that, we would have to put the fence back up,
> which would be unfortunate, IMHO.
>
> I'm sure the Apache wiki already has some ways to deal with spam (e.g.
>
> https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DOC/Preventing+and+Cleaning+U
> p+Spam
> ).
> Places like Wikipedia are much more open than even our current model,
> no login is required at all, and yet they manage to deal with this issue.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hans
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Suresh Subbiah
> <suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Pierre,
> >
> > Good catch. I suppose we have to go back to a model where only folks
> > who have been granted privs can modify the page? Maybe everyone who
> > is listed as contributor will be granted access? That way everyone
> > working on the project has privs and others do not. It does prevent
> > an intertested user of Traf. from improving a "how-to" page, but I
> > don't see any alternatives.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Pierre Smits
> > <pi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > It seems our events page in the wiki got misused to promote
> > > something
> > else
> > > than events Trafodion community members are participating in. See
> below.
> > >
> > > Are we having a permission schema that is too liberal?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Pierre Smits
> > >
> > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for
> > > Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail &
> > > Trade http://www.orrtiz.com
> > >
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> > > From: rana mama (Confluence) <co...@apache.org>
> > > Date: Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:37 PM
> > > Subject: [CONF] Apache Trafodion > Events
> > > To: pierre.smits@gmail.com
> > >
> > >
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> > > Introduction
> > >
> > > This page outlines the future and past events contributors of the
> > > Trafodion project will or have participated in.
> > > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live stream nfl preseason
> > > 2015 Table of Content
> > >
> > > Table of Contents indent 5px
> > >
> > > Future Events
> > >
> > >
> > > Where
> > >
> > >
> > > Where When Event Wiki Page Web Site When  Event  Wiki Page  Web
> > > Site
> > Shanghai,
> > > China July 23-24, 2015 China Hadoop Summit 2015 China Hadoop
> > > Summit <
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=606
> > 24
> > 047>
> > > http://www.chinahadoop.com/english.html Budapest, Hungary Sept
> > > 28-30,
> > 2015 Apache
> > > Big Data EU 2015 Apache BigData EU 2015 <
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=596
> > 89
> > 892>
> > > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe
> > Budapest,
> > > Hungary Oct 1-2, 2015 ApacheCon CORE EU 2015 ApacheCon Core EU
> > > 2015 <
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=596
> > 89
> > 898>
> > > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-core-europe
> > >
> > >
> > > Past Events
> > >
> > >
> > > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live stream nfl Football
> > > at
> > > 8:00 pm watch directlivestream.com or big games, highlight and
> > > interviews
> > live
> > > free stream on your pc. Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings
> > > live, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live stream,
> > > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live stream nfl Football.
> > > Watch Pittsburgh Steelers
> > vs
> > > Minnesota Vikings nfl Football , TV Start Time, Pittsburgh
> > > Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings Live Stream, Score and Updates, News
> > > here.
> > > Don’t miss tack this great match, Join now.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > http://directlivestream.com/index.php/2015/08/01/pittsburgh-steelers
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> > >
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> > > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live
> > > Competition: NFL 2015 live
> > > kick off time: 8:00 pm(ET)
> > > Date: Sunday, August 09, 2015
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Re: [CONF] Apache Trafodion > Events

Posted by Hans Zeller <ha...@esgyn.com>.
I'll be happy to help with it. This has been once incident in a few days,
is that right? How many times per week did Susan have to clean up spam?

Hans

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Dave Birdsall <da...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

> I am personally not willing to spend the time watching for spam.
>
> Susan had this problem constantly with the old pre-Apache wiki; I'd prefer
> not to spend my time relearning her lessons.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zeller@esgyn.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 9:36 AM
> To: dev <de...@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [CONF] Apache Trafodion > Events
>
> Hi,
>
> It was me who suggested that we open up the wiki to contributions from
> anyone who has an account.
>
> Could we try to manage the spam somehow before going back to a stricter
> permission model? To sign up for an account, there is something similar to
> a
> Captcha, so it's not totally open. I'm not sure whether a user must confirm
> their email address before being allowed to contribute.
>
> If we get a couple of spam entries per real contribution from the outside,
> I
> would think that's a price worth paying at this point. If it's much worse
> than that, we would have to put the fence back up, which would be
> unfortunate, IMHO.
>
> I'm sure the Apache wiki already has some ways to deal with spam (e.g.
>
> https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DOC/Preventing+and+Cleaning+Up+Spam
> ).
> Places like Wikipedia are much more open than even our current model, no
> login is required at all, and yet they manage to deal with this issue.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hans
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Suresh Subbiah <suresh.subbiah60@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Pierre,
> >
> > Good catch. I suppose we have to go back to a model where only folks
> > who have been granted privs can modify the page? Maybe everyone who is
> > listed as contributor will be granted access? That way everyone
> > working on the project has privs and others do not. It does prevent an
> > intertested user of Traf. from improving a "how-to" page, but I don't see
> > any alternatives.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > It seems our events page in the wiki got misused to promote
> > > something
> > else
> > > than events Trafodion community members are participating in. See
> below.
> > >
> > > Are we having a permission schema that is too liberal?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Pierre Smits
> > >
> > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> > > Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade
> > > http://www.orrtiz.com
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: rana mama (Confluence) <co...@apache.org>
> > > Date: Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:37 PM
> > > Subject: [CONF] Apache Trafodion > Events
> > > To: pierre.smits@gmail.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > <
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/~bdsujon100?src=mail&src.m
> > ail.timestamp=1438619837170&src.mail.notification=com.atlassian.conflu
> > ence.plugins.confluence-content-notifications-plugin%3Apage-edited-not
> > ification&src.mail.recipient=8aa980874e36a1eb014e36a2b2ed5aed>
> > rana
> > > mama *edited* a page   [image: page icon]
> > > <
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Events?src=mail&
> > src.mail.timestamp=1438619837170&src.mail.notification=com.atlassian.c
> > onfluence.plugins.confluence-content-notifications-plugin%3Apage-edite
> > d-notification&src.mail.recipient=8aa980874e36a1eb014e36a2b2ed5aed&src
> > .mail.action=view
> > >
> > > Events
> > > <
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Events?src=mail&
> > src.mail.timestamp=1438619837170&src.mail.notification=com.atlassian.c
> > onfluence.plugins.confluence-content-notifications-plugin%3Apage-edite
> > d-notification&src.mail.recipient=8aa980874e36a1eb014e36a2b2ed5aed&src
> > .mail.action=view
> > >
> > > Introduction
> > >
> > > This page outlines the future and past events contributors of the
> > > Trafodion project will or have participated in.
> > > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live stream nfl preseason
> > > 2015 Table of Content
> > >
> > > Table of Contents indent 5px
> > >
> > > Future Events
> > >
> > >
> > > Where
> > >
> > >
> > > Where When Event Wiki Page Web Site When  Event  Wiki Page  Web Site
> > Shanghai,
> > > China July 23-24, 2015 China Hadoop Summit 2015 China Hadoop Summit
> > > <
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=60624
> > 047>
> > > http://www.chinahadoop.com/english.html Budapest, Hungary Sept
> > > 28-30,
> > 2015 Apache
> > > Big Data EU 2015 Apache BigData EU 2015 <
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=59689
> > 892>
> > > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe
> > Budapest,
> > > Hungary Oct 1-2, 2015 ApacheCon CORE EU 2015 ApacheCon Core EU 2015
> > > <
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=59689
> > 898>
> > > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-core-europe
> > >
> > >
> > > Past Events
> > >
> > >
> > > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live stream nfl Football at
> > > 8:00 pm watch directlivestream.com or big games, highlight and
> > > interviews
> > live
> > > free stream on your pc. Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings
> > > live, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live stream,
> > > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live stream nfl Football.
> > > Watch Pittsburgh Steelers
> > vs
> > > Minnesota Vikings nfl Football , TV Start Time, Pittsburgh Steelers
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> > > Don’t miss tack this great match, Join now.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > http://directlivestream.com/index.php/2015/08/01/pittsburgh-steelers-v
> > s-minnesota-vikings-live-stream-nfl-preseason-2015/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [image: ooooooooooooo]Image Added
> > > <
> > http://directlivestream.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/ooooooooooooo.j
> > pg>
> > >
> > > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings Match schedules: Pittsburgh
> > > Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live
> > > Competition: NFL 2015 live
> > > kick off time: 8:00 pm(ET)
> > > Date: Sunday, August 09, 2015
> > > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live nfl>>>
> > > <http://directlivestream.com/nfl/>
> > >
> > > Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers live, Minnesota Vikings vs
> > > Pittsburgh Steelers live stream, Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh
> > > Steelers live tv, Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers live nfl
> > > Football,Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers live streaming nfl
> > > Football, Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers live online nfl
> > > Football, Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers nfl Football
> > > internationals, Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers nfl
> > > Football
> > live,
> > > Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers live nfl Football ,
> > > Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers nfl Football live online,
> > > Minnesota
> > Vikings
> > > vs Pittsburgh Steelers nfl Football tv
> > >
> > > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live, Pittsburgh Steelers
> > > vs Minnesota Vikings live stream, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota
> > > Vikings live tv, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live nfl
> > > Football,Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live streaming nfl
> > > Football, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live online nfl
> > > Football, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings nfl Football
> > > internationals, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings nfl
> > > Football
> > live,
> > > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live nfl Football ,
> > > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings nfl Football live online,
> > > Pittsburgh
> > Steelers
> > > vs Minnesota Vikings nfl Football tv
> > >
> > > Enjoy TV Channels broadcast Live streaming nfl Football online :
> > > ESP3, BTN, ESPU, VERS, FSN, TMTN, ABC, NBC, CBSC, FCS, ESP2, CBS,
> > > FOX, NBC,
> > ESPN
> > > and so many. So You can see the Live streaming online games free TV
> > channel
> > > / laptop / PC / Mobile / Desktop etc. so enjoy it.
> > >
> > > Watch Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings Live nfl Football
> > > Regular Season 2015 Match Online. You will get a TV software that
> > > you can watch
> > > 4500+ TV Channel. Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings nfl
> > > 4500+ Football
> > > live stream online match HD video and TV link in here. To watch
> > Pittsburgh
> > > Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings nfl Football live match you need to
> > > buy a
> > TV
> > > software clicking the link given before. Get instant access to the
> > > widest sports coverage on the net directly on your laptop from any
> > > location!
> > Don’t
> > > miss this game live video streaming and high quality picture with
> > > live online tv.
> > >
> > > How to Watch Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings Live nfl
> > > Football
> > > 2015 Game Match Online? If you can not follow the Pittsburgh
> > > Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings game Live on your TV, do not worry,
> > > you can still watch the 2015 Season Games Online from your PC TV.
> > > Look at the link and you
> > are
> > > entitled to access to this great nfl Football 2015 match. watch and
> > > enjoy Broadcast game Live on your PC TV. Pittsburgh Steelers vs
> > > Minnesota
> > Vikings
> > > Live stream game. Welcome to Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota
> > > Vikings
> > Live
> > > streaming game on any online device. Pittsburgh Steelers vs
> > > Minnesota Vikings Live stream Saturday night nfl Football on online TV.
> > > - See more at:
> > >
> > http://directlivestream.com/index.php/2015/08/01/pittsburgh-steelers-v
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RE: [CONF] Apache Trafodion > Events

Posted by Dave Birdsall <da...@esgyn.com>.
I am personally not willing to spend the time watching for spam.

Susan had this problem constantly with the old pre-Apache wiki; I'd prefer
not to spend my time relearning her lessons.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zeller@esgyn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 9:36 AM
To: dev <de...@trafodion.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [CONF] Apache Trafodion > Events

Hi,

It was me who suggested that we open up the wiki to contributions from
anyone who has an account.

Could we try to manage the spam somehow before going back to a stricter
permission model? To sign up for an account, there is something similar to a
Captcha, so it's not totally open. I'm not sure whether a user must confirm
their email address before being allowed to contribute.

If we get a couple of spam entries per real contribution from the outside, I
would think that's a price worth paying at this point. If it's much worse
than that, we would have to put the fence back up, which would be
unfortunate, IMHO.

I'm sure the Apache wiki already has some ways to deal with spam (e.g.
https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DOC/Preventing+and+Cleaning+Up+Spam).
Places like Wikipedia are much more open than even our current model, no
login is required at all, and yet they manage to deal with this issue.

Thanks,

Hans

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Suresh Subbiah <su...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Pierre,
>
> Good catch. I suppose we have to go back to a model where only folks
> who have been granted privs can modify the page? Maybe everyone who is
> listed as contributor will be granted access? That way everyone
> working on the project has privs and others do not. It does prevent an
> intertested user of Traf. from improving a "how-to" page, but I don't see
> any alternatives.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > It seems our events page in the wiki got misused to promote
> > something
> else
> > than events Trafodion community members are participating in. See below.
> >
> > Are we having a permission schema that is too liberal?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> > Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade
> > http://www.orrtiz.com
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: rana mama (Confluence) <co...@apache.org>
> > Date: Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:37 PM
> > Subject: [CONF] Apache Trafodion > Events
> > To: pierre.smits@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> > <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/~bdsujon100?src=mail&src.m
> ail.timestamp=1438619837170&src.mail.notification=com.atlassian.conflu
> ence.plugins.confluence-content-notifications-plugin%3Apage-edited-not
> ification&src.mail.recipient=8aa980874e36a1eb014e36a2b2ed5aed>
> rana
> > mama *edited* a page   [image: page icon]
> > <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Events?src=mail&
> src.mail.timestamp=1438619837170&src.mail.notification=com.atlassian.c
> onfluence.plugins.confluence-content-notifications-plugin%3Apage-edite
> d-notification&src.mail.recipient=8aa980874e36a1eb014e36a2b2ed5aed&src
> .mail.action=view
> >
> > Events
> > <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Events?src=mail&
> src.mail.timestamp=1438619837170&src.mail.notification=com.atlassian.c
> onfluence.plugins.confluence-content-notifications-plugin%3Apage-edite
> d-notification&src.mail.recipient=8aa980874e36a1eb014e36a2b2ed5aed&src
> .mail.action=view
> >
> > Introduction
> >
> > This page outlines the future and past events contributors of the
> > Trafodion project will or have participated in.
> > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live stream nfl preseason
> > 2015 Table of Content
> >
> > Table of Contents indent 5px
> >
> > Future Events
> >
> >
> > Where
> >
> >
> > Where When Event Wiki Page Web Site When  Event  Wiki Page  Web Site
> Shanghai,
> > China July 23-24, 2015 China Hadoop Summit 2015 China Hadoop Summit
> > <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=60624
> 047>
> > http://www.chinahadoop.com/english.html Budapest, Hungary Sept
> > 28-30,
> 2015 Apache
> > Big Data EU 2015 Apache BigData EU 2015 <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=59689
> 892>
> > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe
> Budapest,
> > Hungary Oct 1-2, 2015 ApacheCon CORE EU 2015 ApacheCon Core EU 2015
> > <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=59689
> 898>
> > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-core-europe
> >
> >
> > Past Events
> >
> >
> > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live stream nfl Football at
> > 8:00 pm watch directlivestream.com or big games, highlight and
> > interviews
> live
> > free stream on your pc. Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings
> > live, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live stream,
> > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live stream nfl Football.
> > Watch Pittsburgh Steelers
> vs
> > Minnesota Vikings nfl Football , TV Start Time, Pittsburgh Steelers
> > vs Minnesota Vikings Live Stream, Score and Updates, News here.
> > Don’t miss tack this great match, Join now.
> >
> >
> >
> http://directlivestream.com/index.php/2015/08/01/pittsburgh-steelers-v
> s-minnesota-vikings-live-stream-nfl-preseason-2015/
> >
> >
> >
> > [image: ooooooooooooo]Image Added
> > <
> http://directlivestream.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/ooooooooooooo.j
> pg>
> >
> > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings Match schedules: Pittsburgh
> > Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live
> > Competition: NFL 2015 live
> > kick off time: 8:00 pm(ET)
> > Date: Sunday, August 09, 2015
> > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live nfl>>>
> > <http://directlivestream.com/nfl/>
> >
> > Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers live, Minnesota Vikings vs
> > Pittsburgh Steelers live stream, Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh
> > Steelers live tv, Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers live nfl
> > Football,Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers live streaming nfl
> > Football, Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers live online nfl
> > Football, Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers nfl Football
> > internationals, Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers nfl
> > Football
> live,
> > Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers live nfl Football ,
> > Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers nfl Football live online,
> > Minnesota
> Vikings
> > vs Pittsburgh Steelers nfl Football tv
> >
> > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live, Pittsburgh Steelers
> > vs Minnesota Vikings live stream, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota
> > Vikings live tv, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live nfl
> > Football,Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live streaming nfl
> > Football, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live online nfl
> > Football, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings nfl Football
> > internationals, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings nfl
> > Football
> live,
> > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live nfl Football ,
> > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings nfl Football live online,
> > Pittsburgh
> Steelers
> > vs Minnesota Vikings nfl Football tv
> >
> > Enjoy TV Channels broadcast Live streaming nfl Football online :
> > ESP3, BTN, ESPU, VERS, FSN, TMTN, ABC, NBC, CBSC, FCS, ESP2, CBS,
> > FOX, NBC,
> ESPN
> > and so many. So You can see the Live streaming online games free TV
> channel
> > / laptop / PC / Mobile / Desktop etc. so enjoy it.
> >
> > Watch Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings Live nfl Football
> > Regular Season 2015 Match Online. You will get a TV software that
> > you can watch
> > 4500+ TV Channel. Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings nfl
> > 4500+ Football
> > live stream online match HD video and TV link in here. To watch
> Pittsburgh
> > Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings nfl Football live match you need to
> > buy a
> TV
> > software clicking the link given before. Get instant access to the
> > widest sports coverage on the net directly on your laptop from any
> > location!
> Don’t
> > miss this game live video streaming and high quality picture with
> > live online tv.
> >
> > How to Watch Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings Live nfl
> > Football
> > 2015 Game Match Online? If you can not follow the Pittsburgh
> > Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings game Live on your TV, do not worry,
> > you can still watch the 2015 Season Games Online from your PC TV.
> > Look at the link and you
> are
> > entitled to access to this great nfl Football 2015 match. watch and
> > enjoy Broadcast game Live on your PC TV. Pittsburgh Steelers vs
> > Minnesota
> Vikings
> > Live stream game. Welcome to Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota
> > Vikings
> Live
> > streaming game on any online device. Pittsburgh Steelers vs
> > Minnesota Vikings Live stream Saturday night nfl Football on online TV.
> > - See more at:
> >
> http://directlivestream.com/index.php/2015/08/01/pittsburgh-steelers-v
> s-minnesota-vikings-live-stream-nfl-preseason-2015/#sthash.JBEQLUgi.dp
> uf
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Re: [CONF] Apache Trafodion > Events

Posted by Hans Zeller <ha...@esgyn.com>.
Hi,

It was me who suggested that we open up the wiki to contributions from
anyone who has an account.

Could we try to manage the spam somehow before going back to a stricter
permission model? To sign up for an account, there is something similar to
a Captcha, so it's not totally open. I'm not sure whether a user must
confirm their email address before being allowed to contribute.

If we get a couple of spam entries per real contribution from the outside,
I would think that's a price worth paying at this point. If it's much worse
than that, we would have to put the fence back up, which would be
unfortunate, IMHO.

I'm sure the Apache wiki already has some ways to deal with spam (e.g.
https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DOC/Preventing+and+Cleaning+Up+Spam).
Places like Wikipedia are much more open than even our current model, no
login is required at all, and yet they manage to deal with this issue.

Thanks,

Hans

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Suresh Subbiah <su...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Pierre,
>
> Good catch. I suppose we have to go back to a model where only folks who
> have been granted privs can modify the page? Maybe everyone who is listed
> as contributor will be granted access? That way everyone working on the
> project has privs and others do not. It does prevent an intertested user of
> Traf. from improving a "how-to" page, but I don't see any alternatives.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > It seems our events page in the wiki got misused to promote something
> else
> > than events Trafodion community members are participating in. See below.
> >
> > Are we having a permission schema that is too liberal?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> > Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> > Based Manufacturing, Professional
> > Services and Retail & Trade
> > http://www.orrtiz.com
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: rana mama (Confluence) <co...@apache.org>
> > Date: Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:37 PM
> > Subject: [CONF] Apache Trafodion > Events
> > To: pierre.smits@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Introduction
> >
> > This page outlines the future and past events contributors of the
> > Trafodion project will or have participated in.
> > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live stream nfl preseason 2015
> > Table of Content
> >
> > Table of Contents indent 5px
> >
> > Future Events
> >
> >
> > Where
> >
> >
> > Where When Event Wiki Page Web Site When  Event  Wiki Page  Web Site
> Shanghai,
> > China July 23-24, 2015 China Hadoop Summit 2015 China Hadoop Summit
> > <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=60624047>
> > http://www.chinahadoop.com/english.html Budapest, Hungary Sept 28-30,
> 2015 Apache
> > Big Data EU 2015 Apache BigData EU 2015
> > <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=59689892>
> > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe
> Budapest,
> > Hungary Oct 1-2, 2015 ApacheCon CORE EU 2015 ApacheCon Core EU 2015
> > <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=59689898>
> > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-core-europe
> >
> >
> > Past Events
> >
> >
> > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live stream nfl Football at 8:00
> > pm watch directlivestream.com or big games, highlight and interviews
> live
> > free stream on your pc. Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live,
> > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live stream, Pittsburgh Steelers
> > vs Minnesota Vikings live stream nfl Football. Watch Pittsburgh Steelers
> vs
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> > tack this great match, Join now.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > [image: ooooooooooooo]Image Added
> > <
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> >
> > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings
> > Match schedules: Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live
> > Competition: NFL 2015 live
> > kick off time: 8:00 pm(ET)
> > Date: Sunday, August 09, 2015
> > Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live nfl>>>
> > <http://directlivestream.com/nfl/>
> >
> > Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers live, Minnesota Vikings vs
> > Pittsburgh Steelers live stream, Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers
> > live tv, Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers live nfl
> > Football,Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers live streaming nfl
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> > Football, Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers nfl Football
> > internationals, Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers nfl Football
> live,
> > Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers live nfl Football , Minnesota
> > Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers nfl Football live online, Minnesota
> Vikings
> > vs Pittsburgh Steelers nfl Football tv
> >
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> > Minnesota Vikings live stream, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings
> > live tv, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live nfl
> > Football,Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live streaming nfl
> > Football, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live online nfl
> > Football, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings nfl Football
> > internationals, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings nfl Football
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> > Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings nfl Football live online, Pittsburgh
> Steelers
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> >
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> channel
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> >
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> > sports coverage on the net directly on your laptop from any location!
> Don’t
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> >
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> > 2015 Game Match Online? If you can not follow the Pittsburgh Steelers vs
> > Minnesota Vikings game Live on your TV, do not worry, you can still watch
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> are
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> > Broadcast game Live on your PC TV. Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota
> Vikings
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Re: [CONF] Apache Trafodion > Events

Posted by Suresh Subbiah <su...@gmail.com>.
Hi Pierre,

Good catch. I suppose we have to go back to a model where only folks who
have been granted privs can modify the page? Maybe everyone who is listed
as contributor will be granted access? That way everyone working on the
project has privs and others do not. It does prevent an intertested user of
Traf. from improving a "how-to" page, but I don't see any alternatives.

Thanks


On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> It seems our events page in the wiki got misused to promote something else
> than events Trafodion community members are participating in. See below.
>
> Are we having a permission schema that is too liberal?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: rana mama (Confluence) <co...@apache.org>
> Date: Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:37 PM
> Subject: [CONF] Apache Trafodion > Events
> To: pierre.smits@gmail.com
>
>
>
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/~bdsujon100?src=mail&src.mail.timestamp=1438619837170&src.mail.notification=com.atlassian.confluence.plugins.confluence-content-notifications-plugin%3Apage-edited-notification&src.mail.recipient=8aa980874e36a1eb014e36a2b2ed5aed> rana
> mama *edited* a page   [image: page icon]
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> Introduction
>
> This page outlines the future and past events contributors of the
> Trafodion project will or have participated in.
> Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live stream nfl preseason 2015
> Table of Content
>
> Table of Contents indent 5px
>
> Future Events
>
>
> Where
>
>
> Where When Event Wiki Page Web Site When  Event  Wiki Page  Web Site Shanghai,
> China July 23-24, 2015 China Hadoop Summit 2015 China Hadoop Summit
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=60624047>
> http://www.chinahadoop.com/english.html Budapest, Hungary Sept 28-30, 2015 Apache
> Big Data EU 2015 Apache BigData EU 2015
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=59689892>
> http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe Budapest,
> Hungary Oct 1-2, 2015 ApacheCon CORE EU 2015 ApacheCon Core EU 2015
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=59689898>
> http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-core-europe
>
>
> Past Events
>
>
> Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live stream nfl Football at 8:00
> pm watch directlivestream.com or big games, highlight and interviews live
> free stream on your pc. Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live,
> Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live stream, Pittsburgh Steelers
> vs Minnesota Vikings live stream nfl Football. Watch Pittsburgh Steelers vs
> Minnesota Vikings nfl Football , TV Start Time, Pittsburgh Steelers vs
> Minnesota Vikings Live Stream, Score and Updates, News here. Don’t miss
> tack this great match, Join now.
>
>
> http://directlivestream.com/index.php/2015/08/01/pittsburgh-steelers-vs-minnesota-vikings-live-stream-nfl-preseason-2015/
>
>
>
> [image: ooooooooooooo]Image Added
> <http://directlivestream.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/ooooooooooooo.jpg>
>
> Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings
> Match schedules: Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live
> Competition: NFL 2015 live
> kick off time: 8:00 pm(ET)
> Date: Sunday, August 09, 2015
> Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live nfl>>>
> <http://directlivestream.com/nfl/>
>
> Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers live, Minnesota Vikings vs
> Pittsburgh Steelers live stream, Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers
> live tv, Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers live nfl
> Football,Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers live streaming nfl
> Football, Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers live online nfl
> Football, Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers nfl Football
> internationals, Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers nfl Football live,
> Minnesota Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers live nfl Football , Minnesota
> Vikings vs Pittsburgh Steelers nfl Football live online, Minnesota Vikings
> vs Pittsburgh Steelers nfl Football tv
>
> Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live, Pittsburgh Steelers vs
> Minnesota Vikings live stream, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings
> live tv, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live nfl
> Football,Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live streaming nfl
> Football, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live online nfl
> Football, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings nfl Football
> internationals, Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings nfl Football live,
> Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings live nfl Football , Pittsburgh
> Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings nfl Football live online, Pittsburgh Steelers
> vs Minnesota Vikings nfl Football tv
>
> Enjoy TV Channels broadcast Live streaming nfl Football online : ESP3,
> BTN, ESPU, VERS, FSN, TMTN, ABC, NBC, CBSC, FCS, ESP2, CBS, FOX, NBC, ESPN
> and so many. So You can see the Live streaming online games free TV channel
> / laptop / PC / Mobile / Desktop etc. so enjoy it.
>
> Watch Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings Live nfl Football Regular
> Season 2015 Match Online. You will get a TV software that you can watch
> 4500+ TV Channel. Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings nfl Football
> live stream online match HD video and TV link in here. To watch Pittsburgh
> Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings nfl Football live match you need to buy a TV
> software clicking the link given before. Get instant access to the widest
> sports coverage on the net directly on your laptop from any location! Don’t
> miss this game live video streaming and high quality picture with live
> online tv.
>
> How to Watch Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings Live nfl Football
> 2015 Game Match Online? If you can not follow the Pittsburgh Steelers vs
> Minnesota Vikings game Live on your TV, do not worry, you can still watch
> the 2015 Season Games Online from your PC TV. Look at the link and you are
> entitled to access to this great nfl Football 2015 match. watch and enjoy
> Broadcast game Live on your PC TV. Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings
> Live stream game. Welcome to Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings Live
> streaming game on any online device. Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota
> Vikings Live stream Saturday night nfl Football on online TV.
> - See more at:
> http://directlivestream.com/index.php/2015/08/01/pittsburgh-steelers-vs-minnesota-vikings-live-stream-nfl-preseason-2015/#sthash.JBEQLUgi.dpuf
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