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[jira] Created: (CAMEL-1304) Add a GridComponent to integrate
GridGain
Add a GridComponent to integrate GridGain
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Key: CAMEL-1304
URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1304
Project: Apache Camel
Issue Type: New Feature
Reporter: Raffaele Picardi
Hi all,
i'd like to have some feedback about the idea to develop a GridGain component for Camel. This Component will permit to invoke jobs to compute (Map & Reduce pattern) on a grid system very lightweight based as GridGain.
Working and Contributing on Mule and Globus enterprise environments (no light :) ) i've understand the power of Camel and just now i'd like to use it with a GridGain.
GridGain is squarelly focused on one thing - providing the best Java software middleware that allows to develop complex grid applications on the cloud infrastructure in a simple and productive way.
Integrating them it will be possible obtain Scalability feature in application with high computing throughtput requirements using Apache Camel.
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Raffaele Picardi commented on CAMEL-1304:
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Ok Hadrian. Just now it is possible close this issue and host it on
camel extra.
Please let me know if you agree with me.
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Il giorno 28/ott/2009, alle ore 01.05, "Hadrian Zbarcea (JIRA)" <jira@apache.org
> Add a GridComponent to integrate GridGain
> -----------------------------------------
>
> Key: CAMEL-1304
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1304
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> Reporter: Raffaele Picardi
> Fix For: Future
>
>
> Hi all,
> i'd like to have some feedback about the idea to develop a GridGain component for Camel. This Component will permit to invoke jobs to compute (Map & Reduce pattern) on a grid system very lightweight based as GridGain.
> Working and Contributing on Mule and Globus enterprise environments (no light :) ) i've understand the power of Camel and just now i'd like to use it with a GridGain.
> GridGain is squarelly focused on one thing - providing the best Java software middleware that allows to develop complex grid applications on the cloud infrastructure in a simple and productive way.
> Integrating them it will be possible obtain Scalability feature in application with high computing throughtput requirements using Apache Camel.
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[jira] Commented: (CAMEL-1304) Add a GridComponent to integrate
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Claus Ibsen commented on CAMEL-1304:
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Sound awesome
We love contributions
http://camel.apache.org/contributing.html
> Add a GridComponent to integrate GridGain
> -----------------------------------------
>
> Key: CAMEL-1304
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1304
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> Reporter: Raffaele Picardi
>
> Hi all,
> i'd like to have some feedback about the idea to develop a GridGain component for Camel. This Component will permit to invoke jobs to compute (Map & Reduce pattern) on a grid system very lightweight based as GridGain.
> Working and Contributing on Mule and Globus enterprise environments (no light :) ) i've understand the power of Camel and just now i'd like to use it with a GridGain.
> GridGain is squarelly focused on one thing - providing the best Java software middleware that allows to develop complex grid applications on the cloud infrastructure in a simple and productive way.
> Integrating them it will be possible obtain Scalability feature in application with high computing throughtput requirements using Apache Camel.
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GridGain
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Hadrian Zbarcea commented on CAMEL-1304:
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Actually I talked with Nikita Ivanov about this in Raleigh a few months back.
GridGain is also interested in this, to the point where, quite a while ago, they changed the licensing for their api and made it APL2.0 per James' request (see http://www.gridgainsystems.com/wiki/display/GG15UG/2007/12/19/GridGain+1.6+-+LGPL+and+Apache+Dual-Licensing).
GridGain is actually a pretty cool piece of technology, but I would be concerned about testing. Afaik, their server side technology is still LGPL licensed only, so while we would be able to compile against GG, I am not sure how we will test.
> Add a GridComponent to integrate GridGain
> -----------------------------------------
>
> Key: CAMEL-1304
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1304
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> Reporter: Raffaele Picardi
>
> Hi all,
> i'd like to have some feedback about the idea to develop a GridGain component for Camel. This Component will permit to invoke jobs to compute (Map & Reduce pattern) on a grid system very lightweight based as GridGain.
> Working and Contributing on Mule and Globus enterprise environments (no light :) ) i've understand the power of Camel and just now i'd like to use it with a GridGain.
> GridGain is squarelly focused on one thing - providing the best Java software middleware that allows to develop complex grid applications on the cloud infrastructure in a simple and productive way.
> Integrating them it will be possible obtain Scalability feature in application with high computing throughtput requirements using Apache Camel.
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[jira] Commented: (CAMEL-1304) Add a GridComponent to integrate
GridGain
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Hadrian Zbarcea commented on CAMEL-1304:
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Hi,
Actually I toyed with this a while ago and it's not hard to implement. It would help in a few ways, one being distributing our own tests on multiple nodes and reduce the ridiculously long building time (but hey, we have some 4000 unit tests, something to brag about).
The issue is that gridgain repackaged and distribute their api under ASL2.0 at our own's jstrachan request quite a while ago. The issue is that the nodes are still GPL so I have no idea how we could test such a component unless they would make available a mock or something as ASL2.0 as well. I am willing to bet that they won't relicense the whole thing. I spoke to Nikita some 6 months ago about this and it looks like the GG crowd is not quite happy about the prospect.
One alternative would be to implement and host it at the fuse forge and camel extra and depending on the community interest see if we could work something out with GG and move the component later at apache.
> Add a GridComponent to integrate GridGain
> -----------------------------------------
>
> Key: CAMEL-1304
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1304
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> Reporter: Raffaele Picardi
> Fix For: Future
>
>
> Hi all,
> i'd like to have some feedback about the idea to develop a GridGain component for Camel. This Component will permit to invoke jobs to compute (Map & Reduce pattern) on a grid system very lightweight based as GridGain.
> Working and Contributing on Mule and Globus enterprise environments (no light :) ) i've understand the power of Camel and just now i'd like to use it with a GridGain.
> GridGain is squarelly focused on one thing - providing the best Java software middleware that allows to develop complex grid applications on the cloud infrastructure in a simple and productive way.
> Integrating them it will be possible obtain Scalability feature in application with high computing throughtput requirements using Apache Camel.
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[jira] Commented: (CAMEL-1304) Add a GridComponent to integrate
GridGain
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Raffaele Picardi commented on CAMEL-1304:
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Ok, i'd like understand better the question related to Licences. Can i continue to develop the component? I suspended it a few month ago.
>I am not sure how we will test.
why?
Thanks a lot.
> Add a GridComponent to integrate GridGain
> -----------------------------------------
>
> Key: CAMEL-1304
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1304
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> Reporter: Raffaele Picardi
>
> Hi all,
> i'd like to have some feedback about the idea to develop a GridGain component for Camel. This Component will permit to invoke jobs to compute (Map & Reduce pattern) on a grid system very lightweight based as GridGain.
> Working and Contributing on Mule and Globus enterprise environments (no light :) ) i've understand the power of Camel and just now i'd like to use it with a GridGain.
> GridGain is squarelly focused on one thing - providing the best Java software middleware that allows to develop complex grid applications on the cloud infrastructure in a simple and productive way.
> Integrating them it will be possible obtain Scalability feature in application with high computing throughtput requirements using Apache Camel.
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[jira] Commented: (CAMEL-1304) Add a GridComponent to integrate
GridGain
Posted by "Claus Ibsen (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Claus Ibsen commented on CAMEL-1304:
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Yeah of course
Yes thats very good for you to start and when you think you have something ready to show and want feedback on then come back again.
> Add a GridComponent to integrate GridGain
> -----------------------------------------
>
> Key: CAMEL-1304
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1304
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> Reporter: Raffaele Picardi
>
> Hi all,
> i'd like to have some feedback about the idea to develop a GridGain component for Camel. This Component will permit to invoke jobs to compute (Map & Reduce pattern) on a grid system very lightweight based as GridGain.
> Working and Contributing on Mule and Globus enterprise environments (no light :) ) i've understand the power of Camel and just now i'd like to use it with a GridGain.
> GridGain is squarelly focused on one thing - providing the best Java software middleware that allows to develop complex grid applications on the cloud infrastructure in a simple and productive way.
> Integrating them it will be possible obtain Scalability feature in application with high computing throughtput requirements using Apache Camel.
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Raffaele Picardi commented on CAMEL-1304:
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I need to find another team member to' continue work .
Il giorno 27/ott/2009, alle ore 21.11, "Claus Ibsen (JIRA)" <jira@apache.org
> Add a GridComponent to integrate GridGain
> -----------------------------------------
>
> Key: CAMEL-1304
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1304
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> Reporter: Raffaele Picardi
> Fix For: Future
>
>
> Hi all,
> i'd like to have some feedback about the idea to develop a GridGain component for Camel. This Component will permit to invoke jobs to compute (Map & Reduce pattern) on a grid system very lightweight based as GridGain.
> Working and Contributing on Mule and Globus enterprise environments (no light :) ) i've understand the power of Camel and just now i'd like to use it with a GridGain.
> GridGain is squarelly focused on one thing - providing the best Java software middleware that allows to develop complex grid applications on the cloud infrastructure in a simple and productive way.
> Integrating them it will be possible obtain Scalability feature in application with high computing throughtput requirements using Apache Camel.
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[jira] Assigned: (CAMEL-1304) Add a GridComponent to integrate
GridGain
Posted by "Hadrian Zbarcea (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Hadrian Zbarcea reassigned CAMEL-1304:
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Assignee: Hadrian Zbarcea
> Add a GridComponent to integrate GridGain
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>
> Key: CAMEL-1304
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1304
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> Reporter: Raffaele Picardi
> Assignee: Hadrian Zbarcea
> Fix For: Future
>
>
> Hi all,
> i'd like to have some feedback about the idea to develop a GridGain component for Camel. This Component will permit to invoke jobs to compute (Map & Reduce pattern) on a grid system very lightweight based as GridGain.
> Working and Contributing on Mule and Globus enterprise environments (no light :) ) i've understand the power of Camel and just now i'd like to use it with a GridGain.
> GridGain is squarelly focused on one thing - providing the best Java software middleware that allows to develop complex grid applications on the cloud infrastructure in a simple and productive way.
> Integrating them it will be possible obtain Scalability feature in application with high computing throughtput requirements using Apache Camel.
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Raffaele Picardi commented on CAMEL-1304:
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Thanks a lot for your feedback.
I read contributions guidelines but I 'd like to know if i can firstly begin develop this component and only after try to propose it to community. it is possible? I will follow discussion and issue tracker but just on development time about my component.
thanks in advance again.
> Add a GridComponent to integrate GridGain
> -----------------------------------------
>
> Key: CAMEL-1304
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1304
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> Reporter: Raffaele Picardi
>
> Hi all,
> i'd like to have some feedback about the idea to develop a GridGain component for Camel. This Component will permit to invoke jobs to compute (Map & Reduce pattern) on a grid system very lightweight based as GridGain.
> Working and Contributing on Mule and Globus enterprise environments (no light :) ) i've understand the power of Camel and just now i'd like to use it with a GridGain.
> GridGain is squarelly focused on one thing - providing the best Java software middleware that allows to develop complex grid applications on the cloud infrastructure in a simple and productive way.
> Integrating them it will be possible obtain Scalability feature in application with high computing throughtput requirements using Apache Camel.
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[jira] Commented: (CAMEL-1304) Add a GridComponent to integrate
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Hadrian Zbarcea commented on CAMEL-1304:
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Ok, let's leave it as future and plan to put it in a separate repo for now like camel-extra. I will assign this to me then.
> Add a GridComponent to integrate GridGain
> -----------------------------------------
>
> Key: CAMEL-1304
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1304
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> Reporter: Raffaele Picardi
> Fix For: Future
>
>
> Hi all,
> i'd like to have some feedback about the idea to develop a GridGain component for Camel. This Component will permit to invoke jobs to compute (Map & Reduce pattern) on a grid system very lightweight based as GridGain.
> Working and Contributing on Mule and Globus enterprise environments (no light :) ) i've understand the power of Camel and just now i'd like to use it with a GridGain.
> GridGain is squarelly focused on one thing - providing the best Java software middleware that allows to develop complex grid applications on the cloud infrastructure in a simple and productive way.
> Integrating them it will be possible obtain Scalability feature in application with high computing throughtput requirements using Apache Camel.
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[jira] Updated: (CAMEL-1304) Add a GridComponent to integrate
GridGain
Posted by "Claus Ibsen (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Claus Ibsen updated CAMEL-1304:
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Fix Version/s: Future
> Add a GridComponent to integrate GridGain
> -----------------------------------------
>
> Key: CAMEL-1304
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1304
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> Reporter: Raffaele Picardi
> Fix For: Future
>
>
> Hi all,
> i'd like to have some feedback about the idea to develop a GridGain component for Camel. This Component will permit to invoke jobs to compute (Map & Reduce pattern) on a grid system very lightweight based as GridGain.
> Working and Contributing on Mule and Globus enterprise environments (no light :) ) i've understand the power of Camel and just now i'd like to use it with a GridGain.
> GridGain is squarelly focused on one thing - providing the best Java software middleware that allows to develop complex grid applications on the cloud infrastructure in a simple and productive way.
> Integrating them it will be possible obtain Scalability feature in application with high computing throughtput requirements using Apache Camel.
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[jira] Resolved: (CAMEL-1304) Add a GridComponent to integrate
GridGain
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Claus Ibsen resolved CAMEL-1304.
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Fix Version/s: 2.5.0
(was: Future)
Resolution: Won't Fix
Closing ticket which is not progressing.
> Add a GridComponent to integrate GridGain
> -----------------------------------------
>
> Key: CAMEL-1304
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1304
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> Reporter: Raffaele Picardi
> Assignee: Hadrian Zbarcea
> Fix For: 2.5.0
>
>
> Hi all,
> i'd like to have some feedback about the idea to develop a GridGain component for Camel. This Component will permit to invoke jobs to compute (Map & Reduce pattern) on a grid system very lightweight based as GridGain.
> Working and Contributing on Mule and Globus enterprise environments (no light :) ) i've understand the power of Camel and just now i'd like to use it with a GridGain.
> GridGain is squarelly focused on one thing - providing the best Java software middleware that allows to develop complex grid applications on the cloud infrastructure in a simple and productive way.
> Integrating them it will be possible obtain Scalability feature in application with high computing throughtput requirements using Apache Camel.
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Raffaele Picardi updated CAMEL-1304:
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Affects Version/s: 2.0.0
> Add a GridComponent to integrate GridGain
> -----------------------------------------
>
> Key: CAMEL-1304
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1304
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> Reporter: Raffaele Picardi
>
> Hi all,
> i'd like to have some feedback about the idea to develop a GridGain component for Camel. This Component will permit to invoke jobs to compute (Map & Reduce pattern) on a grid system very lightweight based as GridGain.
> Working and Contributing on Mule and Globus enterprise environments (no light :) ) i've understand the power of Camel and just now i'd like to use it with a GridGain.
> GridGain is squarelly focused on one thing - providing the best Java software middleware that allows to develop complex grid applications on the cloud infrastructure in a simple and productive way.
> Integrating them it will be possible obtain Scalability feature in application with high computing throughtput requirements using Apache Camel.
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Claus Ibsen commented on CAMEL-1304:
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Any updates on this?
> Add a GridComponent to integrate GridGain
> -----------------------------------------
>
> Key: CAMEL-1304
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1304
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> Reporter: Raffaele Picardi
> Fix For: Future
>
>
> Hi all,
> i'd like to have some feedback about the idea to develop a GridGain component for Camel. This Component will permit to invoke jobs to compute (Map & Reduce pattern) on a grid system very lightweight based as GridGain.
> Working and Contributing on Mule and Globus enterprise environments (no light :) ) i've understand the power of Camel and just now i'd like to use it with a GridGain.
> GridGain is squarelly focused on one thing - providing the best Java software middleware that allows to develop complex grid applications on the cloud infrastructure in a simple and productive way.
> Integrating them it will be possible obtain Scalability feature in application with high computing throughtput requirements using Apache Camel.
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Raffaele Picardi commented on CAMEL-1304:
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ok. Thanks a lot.
I will remain this issue opened until i will submit something to show . :)
> Add a GridComponent to integrate GridGain
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>
> Key: CAMEL-1304
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-1304
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> Reporter: Raffaele Picardi
>
> Hi all,
> i'd like to have some feedback about the idea to develop a GridGain component for Camel. This Component will permit to invoke jobs to compute (Map & Reduce pattern) on a grid system very lightweight based as GridGain.
> Working and Contributing on Mule and Globus enterprise environments (no light :) ) i've understand the power of Camel and just now i'd like to use it with a GridGain.
> GridGain is squarelly focused on one thing - providing the best Java software middleware that allows to develop complex grid applications on the cloud infrastructure in a simple and productive way.
> Integrating them it will be possible obtain Scalability feature in application with high computing throughtput requirements using Apache Camel.
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