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Posted to user@karaf.apache.org by Gareth <ga...@gmail.com> on 2013/03/14 02:15:16 UTC
Logback and Apache Karaf
Hi,
Any plans to make it easy to switch the Pax Logging (now 1.7.0) now bundled
with Karaf to use Logback instead? e.g. like having a:
karaf.loggingbackend = log4j/logback
I ask because I was interested in using logback specific features (e.g.
log4j 1.2 does not support Markers).
thanks in advance,
Gareth
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Re: Logback and Apache Karaf
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
I suppose people find the enhanced log4j version sufficient.
A bunch of sutff has been added to the basic log4j embedded in paxlogging,
such as MDCSiftingAPpender, ZipROllingFileAppender, MDCMatchFilter and
missing property based configuration for hierachical bits.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Gareth <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Isn't it though a separate bundle (pax-logging-service vs.
> pax-logging-logback)? From looking at the code it looks like whilst it uses
> the same pid as the pax-logging-service, pax-logging-logback works a little
> differently (the org.ops4j.pax.logging configuration contains a pointer to
> the real logback configuration).
>
> I can do all this myself (download pax-logging-logback to the embedded
> repository, change startup properties to use pax-logging-logback instead of
> pax-logging-service, change the default org.ops4j.pax.logging.properties
> file and add a logback.xml). It would be nice though if karaf could make it
> easier (like it does with the equinox/felix switch).
>
> I am actually surprised that no-one else asked for this. Is logback not
> used
> much?
>
> thanks,
> Gareth
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Logback and Apache Karaf
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Gareth,
I think as you: logback doesn't seem to be used so much.
For instance, I always use slf4j and/or log4j, I never used logback
(because I don't have any needs to do so).
Regards
JB
On 03/14/2013 04:10 PM, Gareth wrote:
> Isn't it though a separate bundle (pax-logging-service vs.
> pax-logging-logback)? From looking at the code it looks like whilst it uses
> the same pid as the pax-logging-service, pax-logging-logback works a little
> differently (the org.ops4j.pax.logging configuration contains a pointer to
> the real logback configuration).
>
> I can do all this myself (download pax-logging-logback to the embedded
> repository, change startup properties to use pax-logging-logback instead of
> pax-logging-service, change the default org.ops4j.pax.logging.properties
> file and add a logback.xml). It would be nice though if karaf could make it
> easier (like it does with the equinox/felix switch).
>
> I am actually surprised that no-one else asked for this. Is logback not used
> much?
>
> thanks,
> Gareth
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Logback and Apache Karaf
Posted by Gareth <ga...@gmail.com>.
Isn't it though a separate bundle (pax-logging-service vs.
pax-logging-logback)? From looking at the code it looks like whilst it uses
the same pid as the pax-logging-service, pax-logging-logback works a little
differently (the org.ops4j.pax.logging configuration contains a pointer to
the real logback configuration).
I can do all this myself (download pax-logging-logback to the embedded
repository, change startup properties to use pax-logging-logback instead of
pax-logging-service, change the default org.ops4j.pax.logging.properties
file and add a logback.xml). It would be nice though if karaf could make it
easier (like it does with the equinox/felix switch).
I am actually surprised that no-one else asked for this. Is logback not used
much?
thanks,
Gareth
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Re: Logback and Apache Karaf
Posted by Ryan Moquin <fr...@gmail.com>.
Hmmmmm let me remember. I think I included it as a maven dependency on my
bundles and it was installed from the generated feature file. It was a few
months back so I forget all the details. I wasn't really sure what the
underlying issue was and if maybe it was a first version of it and had a
few quirks to work out. Either way, it was very weird what happened. I
think all the versions of logback might have showed up in the features file
as well. I can't remember though, it might have been a karaf-maven-plugin
issue as well. I will have to give it another try.
Ryan
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Gareth <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Ryan,
>
> I am curious - How did you install it?
>
> thanks,
> Gareth
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Ryan Moquin [via Karaf]
> <ml...@n3.nabble.com> wrote:
> > FYI, I tried the pax-logging-logback library (not sure if it was 1.7.0 or
> > 1.7.1 or something), but it went crazy when I installed it. Literally
> just
> > about every bundle version of logback that was ever made ended up
> installed
> > and activated.... there were some other weird things. I ended up
> deciding
> > just to stick with what's there by default though I would like to use
> > logback somehow.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Guillaume Nodet <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Another drawback of switching to logback would be that the log:set
> command
> >> which allow changing the logger levels would not work anymore.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Achim Nierbeck <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> No not really, cause right now we rather use the ConfigurationAdmin
> >>> Service way of configuring the logger.
> >>> But I think you're able to configure it in the
> org.ops4j.pax.logging.cfg
> >>> file to use a logback config.
> >>>
> >>> regards, Achim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2013/3/14 Gareth <[hidden email]>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Any plans to make it easy to switch the Pax Logging (now 1.7.0) now
> >>>> bundled
> >>>> with Karaf to use Logback instead? e.g. like having a:
> >>>>
> >>>> karaf.loggingbackend = log4j/logback
> >>>>
> >>>> I ask because I was interested in using logback specific features
> (e.g.
> >>>> log4j 1.2 does not support Markers).
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks in advance,
> >>>> Gareth
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>>
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> Committer &
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Re: Logback and Apache Karaf
Posted by Gareth <ga...@gmail.com>.
Hi Ryan,
I am curious - How did you install it?
thanks,
Gareth
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Ryan Moquin [via Karaf]
<ml...@n3.nabble.com> wrote:
> FYI, I tried the pax-logging-logback library (not sure if it was 1.7.0 or
> 1.7.1 or something), but it went crazy when I installed it. Literally just
> about every bundle version of logback that was ever made ended up installed
> and activated.... there were some other weird things. I ended up deciding
> just to stick with what's there by default though I would like to use
> logback somehow.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Guillaume Nodet <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Another drawback of switching to logback would be that the log:set command
>> which allow changing the logger levels would not work anymore.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Achim Nierbeck <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> No not really, cause right now we rather use the ConfigurationAdmin
>>> Service way of configuring the logger.
>>> But I think you're able to configure it in the org.ops4j.pax.logging.cfg
>>> file to use a logback config.
>>>
>>> regards, Achim
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/3/14 Gareth <[hidden email]>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Any plans to make it easy to switch the Pax Logging (now 1.7.0) now
>>>> bundled
>>>> with Karaf to use Logback instead? e.g. like having a:
>>>>
>>>> karaf.loggingbackend = log4j/logback
>>>>
>>>> I ask because I was interested in using logback specific features (e.g.
>>>> log4j 1.2 does not support Markers).
>>>>
>>>> thanks in advance,
>>>> Gareth
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Logback-and-Apache-Karaf-tp4028183.html
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------
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Re: Logback and Apache Karaf
Posted by Ryan Moquin <fr...@gmail.com>.
FYI, I tried the pax-logging-logback library (not sure if it was 1.7.0 or
1.7.1 or something), but it went crazy when I installed it. Literally just
about every bundle version of logback that was ever made ended up installed
and activated.... there were some other weird things. I ended up deciding
just to stick with what's there by default though I would like to use
logback somehow.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Another drawback of switching to logback would be that the log:set command
> which allow changing the logger levels would not work anymore.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>
>> No not really, cause right now we rather use the ConfigurationAdmin
>> Service way of configuring the logger.
>> But I think you're able to configure it in the org.ops4j.pax.logging.cfg
>> file to use a logback config.
>>
>> regards, Achim
>>
>>
>> 2013/3/14 Gareth <ga...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Any plans to make it easy to switch the Pax Logging (now 1.7.0) now
>>> bundled
>>> with Karaf to use Logback instead? e.g. like having a:
>>>
>>> karaf.loggingbackend = log4j/logback
>>>
>>> I ask because I was interested in using logback specific features (e.g.
>>> log4j 1.2 does not support Markers).
>>>
>>> thanks in advance,
>>> Gareth
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context:
>>> http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Logback-and-Apache-Karaf-tp4028183.html
>>> Sent from the Karaf - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> Committer
>> & Project Lead
>> OPS4J Pax for Vaadin <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home>
>> Commiter & Project Lead
>> blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
>>
>
>
>
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> ------------------------
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> ------------------------
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>
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>
>
Re: Logback and Apache Karaf
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Another drawback of switching to logback would be that the log:set command
which allow changing the logger levels would not work anymore.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>wrote:
> No not really, cause right now we rather use the ConfigurationAdmin
> Service way of configuring the logger.
> But I think you're able to configure it in the org.ops4j.pax.logging.cfg
> file to use a logback config.
>
> regards, Achim
>
>
> 2013/3/14 Gareth <ga...@gmail.com>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Any plans to make it easy to switch the Pax Logging (now 1.7.0) now
>> bundled
>> with Karaf to use Logback instead? e.g. like having a:
>>
>> karaf.loggingbackend = log4j/logback
>>
>> I ask because I was interested in using logback specific features (e.g.
>> log4j 1.2 does not support Markers).
>>
>> thanks in advance,
>> Gareth
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
>
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Re: Logback and Apache Karaf
Posted by Achim Nierbeck <bc...@googlemail.com>.
No not really, cause right now we rather use the ConfigurationAdmin Service
way of configuring the logger.
But I think you're able to configure it in the org.ops4j.pax.logging.cfg
file to use a logback config.
regards, Achim
2013/3/14 Gareth <ga...@gmail.com>
> Hi,
>
> Any plans to make it easy to switch the Pax Logging (now 1.7.0) now bundled
> with Karaf to use Logback instead? e.g. like having a:
>
> karaf.loggingbackend = log4j/logback
>
> I ask because I was interested in using logback specific features (e.g.
> log4j 1.2 does not support Markers).
>
> thanks in advance,
> Gareth
>
>
>
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