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Posted to dev@cayenne.apache.org by Kevin Menard <km...@servprise.com> on 2007/01/03 19:05:09 UTC

Cayenne 2.0.2

Are we waiting on anything for a 2.0.2 release?  If not, I'd like to
propose a vote for a new release.  There have been some important
bugfixes since 2.0.1 and it'd be nice to get it out as a maintenance
release.

-- 
Kevin

Re: Cayenne 2.0.2

Posted by Tore Halset <ha...@pvv.ntnu.no>.
+1

Will be good to send out our first non-incubating apache release.

  - Tore.

On Jan 3, 2007, at 19:13, Andrus Adamchik wrote:

> Good idea. Probably do 1.2.2 at the same time, so that the users  
> can choose the variety they want.
>
> (That's +1 from me, but I'd also like to do a formal vote thread  
> once we see that there is a consensus)
>
> Andrus
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2007, at 8:05 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
>> Are we waiting on anything for a 2.0.2 release?  If not, I'd like to
>> propose a vote for a new release.  There have been some important
>> bugfixes since 2.0.1 and it'd be nice to get it out as a maintenance
>> release.
>>
>> -- 
>> Kevin
>


Re: Cayenne 2.0.2

Posted by Malcolm Edgar <ma...@gmail.com>.
+1

Malcolm Edgar

On 1/4/07, Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org> wrote:
> Good idea. Probably do 1.2.2 at the same time, so that the users can
> choose the variety they want.
>
> (That's +1 from me, but I'd also like to do a formal vote thread once
> we see that there is a consensus)
>
> Andrus
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2007, at 8:05 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
> > Are we waiting on anything for a 2.0.2 release?  If not, I'd like to
> > propose a vote for a new release.  There have been some important
> > bugfixes since 2.0.1 and it'd be nice to get it out as a maintenance
> > release.
> >
> > --
> > Kevin
>
>

Re: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)

Posted by Michael Gentry <bl...@gmail.com>.
+1 ... sounds like an excellent idea to me.  Let me know if I can be
of assistance.

/dev/mrg


On 1/4/07, Tore Halset <ha...@pvv.ntnu.no> wrote:
> (Still) +1 on both of the releases.
>
>   - Tore.
>
> On Jan 4, 2007, at 14:16 , Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>
> >> (That's +1 from me, but I'd also like to do a formal vote thread
> >> once we see that there is a consensus)
> >
> > The way it goes, this might as well be considered a vote thread, so
> > I am renaming it for easier identification.
> >
> > Andrus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 3, 2007, at 8:13 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> >> Good idea. Probably do 1.2.2 at the same time, so that the users
> >> can choose the variety they want.
> >>
> >> (That's +1 from me, but I'd also like to do a formal vote thread
> >> once we see that there is a consensus)
> >>
> >> Andrus
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 3, 2007, at 8:05 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
> >>> Are we waiting on anything for a 2.0.2 release?  If not, I'd like to
> >>> propose a vote for a new release.  There have been some important
> >>> bugfixes since 2.0.1 and it'd be nice to get it out as a maintenance
> >>> release.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Kevin
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)

Posted by Tore Halset <ha...@pvv.ntnu.no>.
(Still) +1 on both of the releases.

  - Tore.

On Jan 4, 2007, at 14:16 , Andrus Adamchik wrote:

>> (That's +1 from me, but I'd also like to do a formal vote thread  
>> once we see that there is a consensus)
>
> The way it goes, this might as well be considered a vote thread, so  
> I am renaming it for easier identification.
>
> Andrus
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2007, at 8:13 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>> Good idea. Probably do 1.2.2 at the same time, so that the users  
>> can choose the variety they want.
>>
>> (That's +1 from me, but I'd also like to do a formal vote thread  
>> once we see that there is a consensus)
>>
>> Andrus
>>
>>
>> On Jan 3, 2007, at 8:05 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
>>> Are we waiting on anything for a 2.0.2 release?  If not, I'd like to
>>> propose a vote for a new release.  There have been some important
>>> bugfixes since 2.0.1 and it'd be nice to get it out as a maintenance
>>> release.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Kevin
>>
>>
>
>


RE: Preparing release

Posted by Kevin Menard <km...@servprise.com>.
Chat log is now available:

http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/9734/1.2.2-2.0.2
-release-session-notes.txt

-- 
Kevin 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Menard [mailto:kmenard@servprise.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:11 PM
> To: cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Preparing release
> 
> I successfully ran the 2.0.2 test suite in hsqldb, derby, and pgsql.
> 
> I actually had two different problems that manifested 
> themselves in similar ways:
> 
> 1) Derby's embedded JDBC driver is in derby.jar, not derbyclient.jar.
> Not having used Derby before, I used [1] as reference and was 
> lead astray.
> 
> 2) I got spoiled by auto-adapters and when I set up my 
> connection.properties, I forgot to specify a Cayenne adapter.
> 
> Fixing those enabled me to run the tests fine.  Apologies to 
> Andrus who waited around patiently for this.  I will post the 
> chat log shortly as well.
> 
> [1] http://www.myeclipseide.com/PNphpBB2+file-viewtopic-t-15508.html 
> 
> --
> Kevin

RE: Preparing release

Posted by Kevin Menard <km...@servprise.com>.
I successfully ran the 2.0.2 test suite in hsqldb, derby, and pgsql.

I actually had two different problems that manifested themselves in
similar ways:

1) Derby's embedded JDBC driver is in derby.jar, not derbyclient.jar.
Not having used Derby before, I used [1] as reference and was lead
astray.

2) I got spoiled by auto-adapters and when I set up my
connection.properties, I forgot to specify a Cayenne adapter.

Fixing those enabled me to run the tests fine.  Apologies to Andrus who
waited around patiently for this.  I will post the chat log shortly as
well.

[1] http://www.myeclipseide.com/PNphpBB2+file-viewtopic-t-15508.html 

-- 
Kevin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrus Adamchik [mailto:andrus@objectstyle.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:11 PM
> To: cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Preparing release
> 
> An update. I just signed off the release session with Kevin 
> (Tore joined a few minutes ago). Kevin is still testing 2.0.2 
> build and will post the transcript of the chat. We ran into a 
> few issues that we will have to address tomorrow:
> 
> 1. To do the release signing a release admin must log his key 
> to the KEYS file (so I will be signing the release this time around).
> 2. Need a link to the RAT tool.
> 
> I'll do my best to publish the release artifacts tomorrow.
> 
> Andrus
> 
> 
> On Jan 10, 2007, at 5:29 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> > I am on IRC now (#cayenne on freenode). I can see Kevin is there as 
> > well. If anybody wants to join, please jump on it. We can 
> stick to our 
> > original time at 17 GMT which is 1.5 hours from now.
> > Essentially the plan is to prepare and test 1.2.2 and 2.0.2 release 
> > snapshots so that we can do a vote. Procedure roughly follows this
> > algorithm:
> >
> > http://cwiki.apache.org/CAY/release-guide.html
> >
> > Andrus
> >
> >
> > On Jan 9, 2007, at 6:32 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
> >> I'm GMT-5 and should be able to do 17-18 GMT.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Kevin
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Andrus Adamchik [mailto:andrus@objectstyle.org]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 9:55 AM
> >>> To: cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)
> >>>
> >>> I will be in MSK time zone tomorrow (GMT +3), but it looks like I 
> >>> will be driving all day, so I won't be available until 
> around 17-18 
> >>> GMT. I'll send a note to dev list and jump on IRC when I 
> start the 
> >>> release. It is indeed hard to coordinate the time that is 
> good for 
> >>> everyone, so hopefully we'll at least document the 
> process this time 
> >>> around.
> >>>
> >>> Andrus
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> 

Re: Preparing release

Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
An update. I just signed off the release session with Kevin (Tore  
joined a few minutes ago). Kevin is still testing 2.0.2 build and  
will post the transcript of the chat. We ran into a few issues that  
we will have to address tomorrow:

1. To do the release signing a release admin must log his key to the  
KEYS file (so I will be signing the release this time around).
2. Need a link to the RAT tool.

I'll do my best to publish the release artifacts tomorrow.

Andrus


On Jan 10, 2007, at 5:29 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> I am on IRC now (#cayenne on freenode). I can see Kevin is there as  
> well. If anybody wants to join, please jump on it. We can stick to  
> our original time at 17 GMT which is 1.5 hours from now.  
> Essentially the plan is to prepare and test 1.2.2 and 2.0.2 release  
> snapshots so that we can do a vote. Procedure roughly follows this  
> algorithm:
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/CAY/release-guide.html
>
> Andrus
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2007, at 6:32 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
>> I'm GMT-5 and should be able to do 17-18 GMT.
>>
>> -- 
>> Kevin
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andrus Adamchik [mailto:andrus@objectstyle.org]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 9:55 AM
>>> To: cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)
>>>
>>> I will be in MSK time zone tomorrow (GMT +3), but it looks
>>> like I will be driving all day, so I won't be available until
>>> around 17-18 GMT. I'll send a note to dev list and jump on
>>> IRC when I start the release. It is indeed hard to coordinate
>>> the time that is good for everyone, so hopefully we'll at
>>> least document the process this time around.
>>>
>>> Andrus
>>
>
>


Re: Preparing release

Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
On Jan 10, 2007, at 6:12 PM, Michael Gentry wrote:

> Sorry, cannot join.  Our firewall/proxy at work blocks stuff like that
> (only port 80 and 443 allowed, and all IM/etc blocked).  Notes would
> be great, though.  :-)

We'll certainly post the transcript.

Andrus


Re: Preparing release

Posted by Michael Gentry <bl...@gmail.com>.
Sorry, cannot join.  Our firewall/proxy at work blocks stuff like that
(only port 80 and 443 allowed, and all IM/etc blocked).  Notes would
be great, though.  :-)



On 1/10/07, Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org> wrote:
> I am on IRC now (#cayenne on freenode). I can see Kevin is there as
> well. If anybody wants to join, please jump on it. We can stick to
> our original time at 17 GMT which is 1.5 hours from now. Essentially
> the plan is to prepare and test 1.2.2 and 2.0.2 release snapshots so
> that we can do a vote. Procedure roughly follows this algorithm:
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/CAY/release-guide.html
>
> Andrus
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2007, at 6:32 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
> > I'm GMT-5 and should be able to do 17-18 GMT.
> >
> > --
> > Kevin
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Andrus Adamchik [mailto:andrus@objectstyle.org]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 9:55 AM
> >> To: cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)
> >>
> >> I will be in MSK time zone tomorrow (GMT +3), but it looks
> >> like I will be driving all day, so I won't be available until
> >> around 17-18 GMT. I'll send a note to dev list and jump on
> >> IRC when I start the release. It is indeed hard to coordinate
> >> the time that is good for everyone, so hopefully we'll at
> >> least document the process this time around.
> >>
> >> Andrus
> >
>
>

Preparing release

Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
I am on IRC now (#cayenne on freenode). I can see Kevin is there as  
well. If anybody wants to join, please jump on it. We can stick to  
our original time at 17 GMT which is 1.5 hours from now. Essentially  
the plan is to prepare and test 1.2.2 and 2.0.2 release snapshots so  
that we can do a vote. Procedure roughly follows this algorithm:

http://cwiki.apache.org/CAY/release-guide.html

Andrus


On Jan 9, 2007, at 6:32 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
> I'm GMT-5 and should be able to do 17-18 GMT.
>
> -- 
> Kevin
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andrus Adamchik [mailto:andrus@objectstyle.org]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 9:55 AM
>> To: cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)
>>
>> I will be in MSK time zone tomorrow (GMT +3), but it looks
>> like I will be driving all day, so I won't be available until
>> around 17-18 GMT. I'll send a note to dev list and jump on
>> IRC when I start the release. It is indeed hard to coordinate
>> the time that is good for everyone, so hopefully we'll at
>> least document the process this time around.
>>
>> Andrus
>


RE: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)

Posted by Kevin Menard <km...@servprise.com>.
I'm GMT-5 and should be able to do 17-18 GMT.

-- 
Kevin 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrus Adamchik [mailto:andrus@objectstyle.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 9:55 AM
> To: cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)
> 
> I will be in MSK time zone tomorrow (GMT +3), but it looks 
> like I will be driving all day, so I won't be available until 
> around 17-18 GMT. I'll send a note to dev list and jump on 
> IRC when I start the release. It is indeed hard to coordinate 
> the time that is good for everyone, so hopefully we'll at 
> least document the process this time around.
> 
> Andrus

Re: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)

Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
I will be in MSK time zone tomorrow (GMT +3), but it looks like I  
will be driving all day, so I won't be available until around 17-18  
GMT. I'll send a note to dev list and jump on IRC when I start the  
release. It is indeed hard to coordinate the time that is good for  
everyone, so hopefully we'll at least document the process this time  
around.

Andrus


On Jan 9, 2007, at 12:38 AM, Tore Halset wrote:
> I'll be able to join in btw 09-16 CET, but I guess that is a bit  
> early for you guys. I do not have access to Orace, Sybase or DB2.
>
>  - Tore.
>
> On Jan 8, 2007, at 18:36, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>
>> There was a suggestion to better document a release procedure so  
>> that any of the Cayenne committers could do it. So I'd like to  
>> offer this - how about we do the release on IM with one other  
>> volunteer committer and then document it together (I've seen  
>> Geronimo doing something like that). Aside from spreading the  
>> knowledge, one area where I can use some help is testing with  
>> Oracle, Sybase, and DB2, as my old test server went bust, and I  
>> don't have access to any of those at the moment.
>>
>> Any volunteers to participate in the release assembly and or test  
>> on those DB's?
>>
>> I should be available most of the time on Wednesday, January 10th.
>
>


Re: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)

Posted by Tore Halset <ha...@pvv.ntnu.no>.
I'll be able to join in btw 09-16 CET, but I guess that is a bit  
early for you guys. I do not have access to Orace, Sybase or DB2.

  - Tore.

On Jan 8, 2007, at 18:36, Andrus Adamchik wrote:

> There was a suggestion to better document a release procedure so  
> that any of the Cayenne committers could do it. So I'd like to  
> offer this - how about we do the release on IM with one other  
> volunteer committer and then document it together (I've seen  
> Geronimo doing something like that). Aside from spreading the  
> knowledge, one area where I can use some help is testing with  
> Oracle, Sybase, and DB2, as my old test server went bust, and I  
> don't have access to any of those at the moment.
>
> Any volunteers to participate in the release assembly and or test  
> on those DB's?
>
> I should be available most of the time on Wednesday, January 10th.


Re: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)

Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
On Jan 8, 2007, at 8:58 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:

> I'd be willing to join in.  I have AIM and Skype accounts.   
> However, I'm
> going away on vacation 1/12 - 1/21, so I don't think I'd be most
> appropriate to be the RM this go around.  But, at least if I  
> participate
> in some form, I'll be prepared for the next go-around.
>
> Another option is to use #cayenne on freenode, which consists  
> mostly of
> just me, so there shouldn't be a noise problem.

We can try that. Maybe I'll become more comfortable with IRC :-)

Andrus


RE: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)

Posted by Kevin Menard <km...@servprise.com>.
I'd be willing to join in.  I have AIM and Skype accounts.  However, I'm
going away on vacation 1/12 - 1/21, so I don't think I'd be most
appropriate to be the RM this go around.  But, at least if I participate
in some form, I'll be prepared for the next go-around.

Another option is to use #cayenne on freenode, which consists mostly of
just me, so there shouldn't be a noise problem.

-- 
Kevin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrus Adamchik [mailto:andrus@objectstyle.org] 
> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 12:36 PM
> To: cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)
> 
> Ok - this vote, that was to gather lazy consensus to go ahead with
> 2.0.2 and 1.0.2 is also closed.
> 
> +1 Andrus Adamchik
> +1 Malcolm Edgar
> +1 Tore Halset
> +1 Kevin Menard
> +1 Michael Gentry
> 
> Let's move ahead with it.
> 
> There was a suggestion to better document a release procedure 
> so that any of the Cayenne committers could do it. So I'd 
> like to offer this
> - how about we do the release on IM with one other volunteer 
> committer and then document it together (I've seen Geronimo 
> doing something like that). Aside from spreading the 
> knowledge, one area where I can use some help is testing with 
> Oracle, Sybase, and DB2, as my old test server went bust, and 
> I don't have access to any of those at the moment.
> 
> Any volunteers to participate in the release assembly and or 
> test on those DB's?
> 
> I should be available most of the time on Wednesday, January 10th.
> 
> Andrus
> 
> P.S. I know the word "IM" generates lots of bad reaction. 
> Here IMO using IM is totally appropriate since we won't be 
> changing (or planning to change) the code, but rather 
> executing a standard release sequence, using IM only to 
> coordinate testing. If anyone thinks this is bad - tell me why.
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 4, 2007, at 3:16 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> >> (That's +1 from me, but I'd also like to do a formal vote 
> thread once 
> >> we see that there is a consensus)
> >
> > The way it goes, this might as well be considered a vote 
> thread, so I 
> > am renaming it for easier identification.
> >
> > Andrus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 3, 2007, at 8:13 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> >> Good idea. Probably do 1.2.2 at the same time, so that the 
> users can 
> >> choose the variety they want.
> >>
> >> (That's +1 from me, but I'd also like to do a formal vote 
> thread once 
> >> we see that there is a consensus)
> >>
> >> Andrus
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 3, 2007, at 8:05 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
> >>> Are we waiting on anything for a 2.0.2 release?  If not, 
> I'd like to 
> >>> propose a vote for a new release.  There have been some important 
> >>> bugfixes since 2.0.1 and it'd be nice to get it out as a 
> maintenance 
> >>> release.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Kevin
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 

Re: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)

Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
Ok - this vote, that was to gather lazy consensus to go ahead with  
2.0.2 and 1.0.2 is also closed.

+1 Andrus Adamchik
+1 Malcolm Edgar
+1 Tore Halset
+1 Kevin Menard
+1 Michael Gentry

Let's move ahead with it.

There was a suggestion to better document a release procedure so that  
any of the Cayenne committers could do it. So I'd like to offer this  
- how about we do the release on IM with one other volunteer  
committer and then document it together (I've seen Geronimo doing  
something like that). Aside from spreading the knowledge, one area  
where I can use some help is testing with Oracle, Sybase, and DB2, as  
my old test server went bust, and I don't have access to any of those  
at the moment.

Any volunteers to participate in the release assembly and or test on  
those DB's?

I should be available most of the time on Wednesday, January 10th.

Andrus

P.S. I know the word "IM" generates lots of bad reaction. Here IMO  
using IM is totally appropriate since we won't be changing (or  
planning to change) the code, but rather executing a standard release  
sequence, using IM only to coordinate testing. If anyone thinks this  
is bad - tell me why.



On Jan 4, 2007, at 3:16 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>> (That's +1 from me, but I'd also like to do a formal vote thread  
>> once we see that there is a consensus)
>
> The way it goes, this might as well be considered a vote thread, so  
> I am renaming it for easier identification.
>
> Andrus
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2007, at 8:13 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>> Good idea. Probably do 1.2.2 at the same time, so that the users  
>> can choose the variety they want.
>>
>> (That's +1 from me, but I'd also like to do a formal vote thread  
>> once we see that there is a consensus)
>>
>> Andrus
>>
>>
>> On Jan 3, 2007, at 8:05 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
>>> Are we waiting on anything for a 2.0.2 release?  If not, I'd like to
>>> propose a vote for a new release.  There have been some important
>>> bugfixes since 2.0.1 and it'd be nice to get it out as a maintenance
>>> release.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Kevin
>>
>>
>
>
>


Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)

Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
Craig, you are absolutely right - this is exactly what I meant by  
'getting too excited' :-)

Andrus


On Jan 4, 2007, at 8:36 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:

> Hi Andrus,
>
> Yes, there is a difference between consensus to make a release  
> (begin the release process) and approval of a release (after the  
> release artifacts are available for testing etc.).
>
> I'd suggest using the [VOTE] subject only for the approval. Seems  
> like lazy consensus is sufficient to begin the process. If there is  
> a need to get lots of input to begin, you might tag the discussion  
> thread with [DISCUSS], but that's just to call attention to the  
> mail...
>
> Craig
>
> On Jan 4, 2007, at 5:37 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>
>> Another note (something I overlooked, getting too excited about  
>> the first release from Apache and all that). We'll still have to  
>> do all the due diligence once the release artifacts are posted,  
>> ensuring that (a) they work and (b) there are no legal issues,  
>> like missing license headers and all that.
>>
>> So we will have another (consequential) vote once a release admin  
>> (I guess that's me at the moment) posts the release files.
>>
>> Andrus


Re: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)

Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
Hi Andrus,

Yes, there is a difference between consensus to make a release (begin  
the release process) and approval of a release (after the release  
artifacts are available for testing etc.).

I'd suggest using the [VOTE] subject only for the approval. Seems  
like lazy consensus is sufficient to begin the process. If there is a  
need to get lots of input to begin, you might tag the discussion  
thread with [DISCUSS], but that's just to call attention to the mail...

Craig

On Jan 4, 2007, at 5:37 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:

> Another note (something I overlooked, getting too excited about the  
> first release from Apache and all that). We'll still have to do all  
> the due diligence once the release artifacts are posted, ensuring  
> that (a) they work and (b) there are no legal issues, like missing  
> license headers and all that.
>
> So we will have another (consequential) vote once a release admin  
> (I guess that's me at the moment) posts the release files.
>
> Andrus
>
>
> On Jan 4, 2007, at 3:29 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
>> Okay.  I'm throwing my +1 into the ring then, for both releases.
>>
>> -- 
>> Kevin
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andrus Adamchik [mailto:andrus@objectstyle.org]
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:17 AM
>>> To: cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)
>>>
>>>> (That's +1 from me, but I'd also like to do a formal vote
>>> thread once
>>>> we see that there is a consensus)
>>>
>>> The way it goes, this might as well be considered a vote
>>> thread, so I am renaming it for easier identification.
>>>
>>> Andrus
>>
>

Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
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Re: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)

Posted by Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>.
Examples:

http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Release_Plans
http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Release_Procedure

I know there are similar pages for Struts, but I don't have the urls
for those offhand.

On 1/4/07, Kevin Menard <km...@servprise.com> wrote:
> I propose we add some sort of checklist of tasks to complete during the
> due diligence process.  Confluence makes these really simple and we
> could track by release.  Otherwise, we could open up a bunch of JIRA
> tasks, but that seems less than ideal to me.
>
> Anyway, with a good checklist, any one of the committers ought to be
> able to do whatever is necessary to put out a new release.  This might
> help take some of the burden of project management off you.  Having said
> that, I'm not fully up to speed on all the ASF procedures, so it may be
> you that has to cut releases anyway.
>
> --
> Kevin
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrus Adamchik [mailto:andrus@objectstyle.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:37 AM
> > To: cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)
> >
> > Another note (something I overlooked, getting too excited
> > about the first release from Apache and all that). We'll
> > still have to do all the due diligence once the release
> > artifacts are posted, ensuring that (a) they work and (b)
> > there are no legal issues, like missing license headers and all that.
> >
> > So we will have another (consequential) vote once a release
> > admin (I guess that's me at the moment) posts the release files.
> >
> > Andrus
>

Re: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)

Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
I started on this some time ago:

http://cwiki.apache.org/CAY/release-guide.html

We will need to add a few more items after this release cycle:

* how to check the code for compliance (there was a RAT tool used to  
check our incubator release. I'll dig up the link).
* differences between SourceForge release (1.2.x) and Apache release  
(2.0.x, 3.0.x)
* how to publish a release
* how to publish Maven artifacts

+1 on a rotating release admin role.

Andrus


On Jan 4, 2007, at 3:47 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:

> I propose we add some sort of checklist of tasks to complete during  
> the
> due diligence process.  Confluence makes these really simple and we
> could track by release.  Otherwise, we could open up a bunch of JIRA
> tasks, but that seems less than ideal to me.
>
> Anyway, with a good checklist, any one of the committers ought to be
> able to do whatever is necessary to put out a new release.  This might
> help take some of the burden of project management off you.  Having  
> said
> that, I'm not fully up to speed on all the ASF procedures, so it  
> may be
> you that has to cut releases anyway.


RE: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)

Posted by Kevin Menard <km...@servprise.com>.
I propose we add some sort of checklist of tasks to complete during the
due diligence process.  Confluence makes these really simple and we
could track by release.  Otherwise, we could open up a bunch of JIRA
tasks, but that seems less than ideal to me.

Anyway, with a good checklist, any one of the committers ought to be
able to do whatever is necessary to put out a new release.  This might
help take some of the burden of project management off you.  Having said
that, I'm not fully up to speed on all the ASF procedures, so it may be
you that has to cut releases anyway.

-- 
Kevin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrus Adamchik [mailto:andrus@objectstyle.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:37 AM
> To: cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)
> 
> Another note (something I overlooked, getting too excited 
> about the first release from Apache and all that). We'll 
> still have to do all the due diligence once the release 
> artifacts are posted, ensuring that (a) they work and (b) 
> there are no legal issues, like missing license headers and all that.
> 
> So we will have another (consequential) vote once a release 
> admin (I guess that's me at the moment) posts the release files.
> 
> Andrus

Re: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)

Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
Another note (something I overlooked, getting too excited about the  
first release from Apache and all that). We'll still have to do all  
the due diligence once the release artifacts are posted, ensuring  
that (a) they work and (b) there are no legal issues, like missing  
license headers and all that.

So we will have another (consequential) vote once a release admin (I  
guess that's me at the moment) posts the release files.

Andrus


On Jan 4, 2007, at 3:29 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
> Okay.  I'm throwing my +1 into the ring then, for both releases.
>
> -- 
> Kevin
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andrus Adamchik [mailto:andrus@objectstyle.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:17 AM
>> To: cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)
>>
>>> (That's +1 from me, but I'd also like to do a formal vote
>> thread once
>>> we see that there is a consensus)
>>
>> The way it goes, this might as well be considered a vote
>> thread, so I am renaming it for easier identification.
>>
>> Andrus
>


RE: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)

Posted by Kevin Menard <km...@servprise.com>.
Okay.  I'm throwing my +1 into the ring then, for both releases.

-- 
Kevin 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrus Adamchik [mailto:andrus@objectstyle.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:17 AM
> To: cayenne-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: [VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)
> 
> > (That's +1 from me, but I'd also like to do a formal vote 
> thread once 
> > we see that there is a consensus)
> 
> The way it goes, this might as well be considered a vote 
> thread, so I am renaming it for easier identification.
> 
> Andrus

[VOTE] Re: Cayenne 2.0.2 (and 1.2.2)

Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
> (That's +1 from me, but I'd also like to do a formal vote thread  
> once we see that there is a consensus)

The way it goes, this might as well be considered a vote thread, so I  
am renaming it for easier identification.

Andrus




On Jan 3, 2007, at 8:13 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> Good idea. Probably do 1.2.2 at the same time, so that the users  
> can choose the variety they want.
>
> (That's +1 from me, but I'd also like to do a formal vote thread  
> once we see that there is a consensus)
>
> Andrus
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2007, at 8:05 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
>> Are we waiting on anything for a 2.0.2 release?  If not, I'd like to
>> propose a vote for a new release.  There have been some important
>> bugfixes since 2.0.1 and it'd be nice to get it out as a maintenance
>> release.
>>
>> -- 
>> Kevin
>
>



Re: Cayenne 2.0.2

Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
Good idea. Probably do 1.2.2 at the same time, so that the users can  
choose the variety they want.

(That's +1 from me, but I'd also like to do a formal vote thread once  
we see that there is a consensus)

Andrus


On Jan 3, 2007, at 8:05 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
> Are we waiting on anything for a 2.0.2 release?  If not, I'd like to
> propose a vote for a new release.  There have been some important
> bugfixes since 2.0.1 and it'd be nice to get it out as a maintenance
> release.
>
> -- 
> Kevin