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Posted to fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org by Trevor Harmon <tr...@vocaro.com> on 2009/01/09 17:25:39 UTC
PDF as external graphic
Hi,
I have a question about <fo:external-graphic>. What's the reason
(technical? licensing? lack of interest?) that FOP does not support
PDF as a graphic format? It seems strange that FOP supports PDF for
output but not for input.
The reason I ask is because I'm trying to embed some PDF illustrations
as figures in a PDF document via FOP. What is the workaround for this?
Will I just have to convert the PDFs to a format that FOP supports?
Thanks,
Trevor
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Re: PDF as external graphic
Posted by Maximilian Gaerber <ma...@infolox.de>.
Hi,
what about this: http://jeremias-maerki.ch/development/fop/index.html ?
Regards,
Max
Trevor Harmon schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> I have a question about <fo:external-graphic>. What's the reason
> (technical? licensing? lack of interest?) that FOP does not support
> PDF as a graphic format? It seems strange that FOP supports PDF for
> output but not for input.
>
> The reason I ask is because I'm trying to embed some PDF illustrations
> as figures in a PDF document via FOP. What is the workaround for this?
> Will I just have to convert the PDFs to a format that FOP supports?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Trevor
>
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Re: PDF as external graphic
Posted by Jeff Griffith <jg...@cssi.org>.
Thanks. This provides the motivation we've
needed to upgrade to 0.95.
Jeff Griffith
CSSI
PS you can ignore my earlier post - it overlapped this one.
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> Hi Trevor
>
> I'm a bit surprised to read this here after our e-mail exchange today.
> But to answer your questions:
>
> On 09.01.2009 17:25:39 Trevor Harmon wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a question about <fo:external-graphic>. What's the reason
>> (technical? licensing? lack of interest?) that FOP does not support
>> PDF as a graphic format? It seems strange that FOP supports PDF for
>> output but not for input.
>
> That was no requirement for a long time or nobody cared to invest the
> time. At some point I got funding to implement the PDF plug-in [1]. I
> had to use PDFBox because FOP's own PDF library is write-only.
> Retrofitting PDF parsing support in FOP's PDF library would have meant a
> lot of work. Using PDFBox was a relatively cheap shortcut.
>
> [1] http://www.jeremias-maerki.ch/development/fop/index.html
>
>> The reason I ask is because I'm trying to embed some PDF illustrations
>> as figures in a PDF document via FOP. What is the workaround for this?
>
> Use the PDF image plug-in [1].
>
>> Will I just have to convert the PDFs to a format that FOP supports?
>
> That's the alternative.
>
> Jeremias Maerki
>
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Re: PDF as external graphic
Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
Hi Trevor
I'm a bit surprised to read this here after our e-mail exchange today.
But to answer your questions:
On 09.01.2009 17:25:39 Trevor Harmon wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a question about <fo:external-graphic>. What's the reason
> (technical? licensing? lack of interest?) that FOP does not support
> PDF as a graphic format? It seems strange that FOP supports PDF for
> output but not for input.
That was no requirement for a long time or nobody cared to invest the
time. At some point I got funding to implement the PDF plug-in [1]. I
had to use PDFBox because FOP's own PDF library is write-only.
Retrofitting PDF parsing support in FOP's PDF library would have meant a
lot of work. Using PDFBox was a relatively cheap shortcut.
[1] http://www.jeremias-maerki.ch/development/fop/index.html
> The reason I ask is because I'm trying to embed some PDF illustrations
> as figures in a PDF document via FOP. What is the workaround for this?
Use the PDF image plug-in [1].
> Will I just have to convert the PDFs to a format that FOP supports?
That's the alternative.
Jeremias Maerki
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Re: PDF as external graphic
Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
As noted in the plug-in's README file:
"Apache FOP currently generates PDF 1.4. If you include a PDF with a
higher PDF version, the results may be unpredictable."
There's currently no other plug-in available to my knowledge. To get
fully correct behaviour we'd also have to teach FOP how to produce PDFs
of a later version. Working on that is currently not on my priority list.
On 16.09.2009 07:17:56 NewWorld wrote:
>
> Hi there,
> I have been using FOP for quite some time and it is working great, and I am
> using the fop-pdf_image plug-in to insert a PDF into the final output.
> However, I having problem with inserting PDF’s that created with PDF
> versions like adobe 9. In summary I am looking for the plug-in to support
> PDF 1.7 version.
> It will be greatly appreciated if some one tells me where I can get the
> plug-in.
>
> Thanks Kindly,
> Al
>
>
>
>
> Maximilian Gaerber wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > below is a template that I use for "merging" existing pdfs with
> > generated content. The existing pdf needs to be set up in a way that the
> > body region has the same width and height as the generated body. Header
> > and Footer are part of the generated content (so page numbering etc.
> > works). You can even add markers to these "custom pages", so they show
> > up in the TOC.
> >
> > start snip
> > ---------
> >
> > <xsl:template name="insert-custom-page">
> > <xsl:param name="master-ref"></xsl:param>
> > <xsl:param name="file-ref"></xsl:param>
> > <xsl:param name="content"></xsl:param>
> > <xsl:param name="custom-marker-text"></xsl:param>
> >
> > <fo:page-sequence master-reference="{$master-ref}">
> > <xsl:call-template name="header"/>
> > <xsl:call-template name="footer"/>
> >
> > <fo:flow flow-name="xsl-region-body">
> > <xsl:if test="(normalize-space($custom-marker-text)) !=
> > ''">
> > <fo:marker marker-class-name="custom-marker">
> > <xsl:value-of
> > select="$custom-marker-text"></xsl:value-of>
> > </fo:marker>
> > </xsl:if>
> > <xsl:choose>
> > <xsl:when test="$content = 'none'">
> > <fo:block></fo:block>
> > </xsl:when>
> > <xsl:otherwise>
> > <fo:block-container absolute-position="absolute"
> > top="-25mm" left="-15mm">
> > <fo:block overflow="hidden" width="180mm"
> > height="252mm">
> > <fo:external-graphic src="{$file-ref}"/>
> > </fo:block>
> > </fo:block-container>
> > </xsl:otherwise>
> > </xsl:choose>
> > </fo:flow>
> > </fo:page-sequence>
> >
> > </xsl:template>
> >
> > --------
> > end snip
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Max
> >
> > Jeff Griffith schrieb:
> >> We have also had a number of occasions to want to do
> >> two things with external PDFs via FOP:
> >>
> >> 1): insert an external PDF page into an FOP generated
> >> document (thus, we're merging a PDF and FOP doesn't
> >> really do anything more with it)
> >>
> >> 2): embed a PDF page within a page in a PDF document
> >> which means that only the "body" section of the page
> >> is involved.
> >>
> >> We have used some other tools to acheive task 1, but
> >> the result is always a bit of a hack. Some tools
> >> don't handle page numbers, etc. so there's a lack
> >> of consistency in the overall document.
> >>
> >> For item 2, the external PDF object becomes part
> >> of the FOP page, just like an embedded SVG object.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Jeff Griffith
> >> CSSI
> >>
> >> PS it would be really great if I could embed the PDF
> >> in a "float" object and put commentary on three side.
> >>
> >>
> >> Trevor Harmon wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I have a question about <fo:external-graphic>. What's the reason
> >>> (technical? licensing? lack of interest?) that FOP does not support
> >>> PDF as a graphic format? It seems strange that FOP supports PDF for
> >>> output but not for input.
> >>>
> >>> The reason I ask is because I'm trying to embed some PDF
> >>> illustrations as figures in a PDF document via FOP. What is the
> >>> workaround for this? Will I just have to convert the PDFs to a format
> >>> that FOP supports?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Trevor
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: PDF as external graphic
Posted by NewWorld <ne...@msn.com>.
Hi there,
I have been using FOP for quite some time and it is working great, and I am
using the fop-pdf_image plug-in to insert a PDF into the final output.
However, I having problem with inserting PDF’s that created with PDF
versions like adobe 9. In summary I am looking for the plug-in to support
PDF 1.7 version.
It will be greatly appreciated if some one tells me where I can get the
plug-in.
Thanks Kindly,
Al
Maximilian Gaerber wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> below is a template that I use for "merging" existing pdfs with
> generated content. The existing pdf needs to be set up in a way that the
> body region has the same width and height as the generated body. Header
> and Footer are part of the generated content (so page numbering etc.
> works). You can even add markers to these "custom pages", so they show
> up in the TOC.
>
> start snip
> ---------
>
> <xsl:template name="insert-custom-page">
> <xsl:param name="master-ref"></xsl:param>
> <xsl:param name="file-ref"></xsl:param>
> <xsl:param name="content"></xsl:param>
> <xsl:param name="custom-marker-text"></xsl:param>
>
> <fo:page-sequence master-reference="{$master-ref}">
> <xsl:call-template name="header"/>
> <xsl:call-template name="footer"/>
>
> <fo:flow flow-name="xsl-region-body">
> <xsl:if test="(normalize-space($custom-marker-text)) !=
> ''">
> <fo:marker marker-class-name="custom-marker">
> <xsl:value-of
> select="$custom-marker-text"></xsl:value-of>
> </fo:marker>
> </xsl:if>
> <xsl:choose>
> <xsl:when test="$content = 'none'">
> <fo:block></fo:block>
> </xsl:when>
> <xsl:otherwise>
> <fo:block-container absolute-position="absolute"
> top="-25mm" left="-15mm">
> <fo:block overflow="hidden" width="180mm"
> height="252mm">
> <fo:external-graphic src="{$file-ref}"/>
> </fo:block>
> </fo:block-container>
> </xsl:otherwise>
> </xsl:choose>
> </fo:flow>
> </fo:page-sequence>
>
> </xsl:template>
>
> --------
> end snip
>
> Regards,
>
> Max
>
> Jeff Griffith schrieb:
>> We have also had a number of occasions to want to do
>> two things with external PDFs via FOP:
>>
>> 1): insert an external PDF page into an FOP generated
>> document (thus, we're merging a PDF and FOP doesn't
>> really do anything more with it)
>>
>> 2): embed a PDF page within a page in a PDF document
>> which means that only the "body" section of the page
>> is involved.
>>
>> We have used some other tools to acheive task 1, but
>> the result is always a bit of a hack. Some tools
>> don't handle page numbers, etc. so there's a lack
>> of consistency in the overall document.
>>
>> For item 2, the external PDF object becomes part
>> of the FOP page, just like an embedded SVG object.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff Griffith
>> CSSI
>>
>> PS it would be really great if I could embed the PDF
>> in a "float" object and put commentary on three side.
>>
>>
>> Trevor Harmon wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a question about <fo:external-graphic>. What's the reason
>>> (technical? licensing? lack of interest?) that FOP does not support
>>> PDF as a graphic format? It seems strange that FOP supports PDF for
>>> output but not for input.
>>>
>>> The reason I ask is because I'm trying to embed some PDF
>>> illustrations as figures in a PDF document via FOP. What is the
>>> workaround for this? Will I just have to convert the PDFs to a format
>>> that FOP supports?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Trevor
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-help@xmlgraphics.apache.org
>>>
>>
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Re: PDF as external graphic
Posted by Maximilian Gaerber <ma...@infolox.de>.
Hi,
below is a template that I use for "merging" existing pdfs with
generated content. The existing pdf needs to be set up in a way that the
body region has the same width and height as the generated body. Header
and Footer are part of the generated content (so page numbering etc.
works). You can even add markers to these "custom pages", so they show
up in the TOC.
start snip
---------
<xsl:template name="insert-custom-page">
<xsl:param name="master-ref"></xsl:param>
<xsl:param name="file-ref"></xsl:param>
<xsl:param name="content"></xsl:param>
<xsl:param name="custom-marker-text"></xsl:param>
<fo:page-sequence master-reference="{$master-ref}">
<xsl:call-template name="header"/>
<xsl:call-template name="footer"/>
<fo:flow flow-name="xsl-region-body">
<xsl:if test="(normalize-space($custom-marker-text)) != ''">
<fo:marker marker-class-name="custom-marker">
<xsl:value-of
select="$custom-marker-text"></xsl:value-of>
</fo:marker>
</xsl:if>
<xsl:choose>
<xsl:when test="$content = 'none'">
<fo:block></fo:block>
</xsl:when>
<xsl:otherwise>
<fo:block-container absolute-position="absolute"
top="-25mm" left="-15mm">
<fo:block overflow="hidden" width="180mm"
height="252mm">
<fo:external-graphic src="{$file-ref}"/>
</fo:block>
</fo:block-container>
</xsl:otherwise>
</xsl:choose>
</fo:flow>
</fo:page-sequence>
</xsl:template>
--------
end snip
Regards,
Max
Jeff Griffith schrieb:
> We have also had a number of occasions to want to do
> two things with external PDFs via FOP:
>
> 1): insert an external PDF page into an FOP generated
> document (thus, we're merging a PDF and FOP doesn't
> really do anything more with it)
>
> 2): embed a PDF page within a page in a PDF document
> which means that only the "body" section of the page
> is involved.
>
> We have used some other tools to acheive task 1, but
> the result is always a bit of a hack. Some tools
> don't handle page numbers, etc. so there's a lack
> of consistency in the overall document.
>
> For item 2, the external PDF object becomes part
> of the FOP page, just like an embedded SVG object.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff Griffith
> CSSI
>
> PS it would be really great if I could embed the PDF
> in a "float" object and put commentary on three side.
>
>
> Trevor Harmon wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a question about <fo:external-graphic>. What's the reason
>> (technical? licensing? lack of interest?) that FOP does not support
>> PDF as a graphic format? It seems strange that FOP supports PDF for
>> output but not for input.
>>
>> The reason I ask is because I'm trying to embed some PDF
>> illustrations as figures in a PDF document via FOP. What is the
>> workaround for this? Will I just have to convert the PDFs to a format
>> that FOP supports?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Trevor
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: PDF as external graphic
Posted by Jeff Griffith <jg...@cssi.org>.
We have also had a number of occasions to want to do
two things with external PDFs via FOP:
1): insert an external PDF page into an FOP generated
document (thus, we're merging a PDF and FOP doesn't
really do anything more with it)
2): embed a PDF page within a page in a PDF document
which means that only the "body" section of the page
is involved.
We have used some other tools to acheive task 1, but
the result is always a bit of a hack. Some tools
don't handle page numbers, etc. so there's a lack
of consistency in the overall document.
For item 2, the external PDF object becomes part
of the FOP page, just like an embedded SVG object.
Thanks,
Jeff Griffith
CSSI
PS it would be really great if I could embed the PDF
in a "float" object and put commentary on three side.
Trevor Harmon wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a question about <fo:external-graphic>. What's the reason
> (technical? licensing? lack of interest?) that FOP does not support PDF
> as a graphic format? It seems strange that FOP supports PDF for output
> but not for input.
>
> The reason I ask is because I'm trying to embed some PDF illustrations
> as figures in a PDF document via FOP. What is the workaround for this?
> Will I just have to convert the PDFs to a format that FOP supports?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Trevor
>
>
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