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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] brusdev opened a new pull request #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

brusdev opened a new pull request #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006
 
 
   

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] brusdev commented on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

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brusdev commented on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596074607
 
 
   I could revert all changes and add a prefix to the UUID without a separator, ie
   <clientid>-<user>-<ip>-<uuid>. WDYT?

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

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michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596058640
 
 
   E.g.  
   `ID:<clientid>-USER:<user>-IP:<ip>-<uuid>`
   
   Dropping field if not present (e.g. drop client id part if not set>
   

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] brusdev closed pull request #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

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brusdev closed pull request #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006
 
 
   

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

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michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596077583
 
 
   -1
   
   I think we dont touch the naming, and avoid overloadin If people need to know who created a queue put it on the queue as meta data. That way also multiple fields can be cleanly defined and metricable. This was reason user who created a queue was put on the queue as such if clientid wants to be tracked it can be added in similar fashion as with ip (remote address)
   
   E.g if say wanted to also have the address name in the queue name, so its clear which address it was for when just looking at queue names, the things we could overload into the queue name is endless and get impossible and why overloading the name is a bad idea, let alone the change for existing user.
   
   If people really want to play with queue names its actually possible already today as i had pointed out. They can use shared non durable subscriptions and put what they want as the subscription name giving them ultimate flexibility without affecting anyone else and existing install ba

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelandrepearce commented on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

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michaelandrepearce commented on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596061074
 
 
   If a user really really wants the queue name to have a clientid in, they can make a shared non durable subscription with clientid set on connection and then set subscription name to a uuid via jms api

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

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michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596058640
 
 
   E.g.  
   `ID:<clientid>-USER:<user>-IP:<ip>-<uuid>`
   
   Dropping field if not present (e.g. drop client id)
   

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelandrepearce commented on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
michaelandrepearce commented on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596060217
 
 
   To be honest the more you look at this changing this logic everywhere is lookinh dangerous as breaking some bits possible.
   
   Is the issue that you just need to identify the creator of a queue? Instead of changing the naming strategy why not have meta data on the queue itself, e.g  add client id, user and remote address onto the queue meta data?
   
   This also then would work even if clients not upgraded which with core youre relying on.

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596060217
 
 
   To be honest the more you look at this changing this logic everywhere is lookingdangerous as breaking some bits possible. Also what occurs when someone wants some other bit of data attached, we change it all again? Meah yucky
   
   Is the issue that you just need to identify the creator of a queue? Instead of changing the naming strategy why not have meta data on the queue itself, e.g  add client id, user and remote address onto the queue meta data?
   
   This also then would work even if clients not upgraded which with core youre relying on.

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596077583
 
 
   -1
   
   I think we dont touch the naming. If people need to know who created a queue put it on the queue as meta data. That way also multiple fields can be cleanly defined and metricable. This was reason user who created a queue was put on the queue as such if clientid wants to be tracked it can be added in similar fashion as with ip (remote address)
   
   If people really want to play with queue names its actually possible already today as i had pointed out.

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelandrepearce commented on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
michaelandrepearce commented on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596077583
 
 
   I think we dont touch the naming. If people need to know who created a queue put it on the queue as meta data.
   
   If people really want to play with queue names its actually possible already today as i had pointed out.

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelpearce-gain edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

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michaelpearce-gain edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-595734781
 
 
   @brusdev i think we need to address the issue of no client id (e.g. add userid and hostname) before this can merge, dont really want to have two lots of changes in changing the naming strategy;s

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

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michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596077583
 
 
   -1
   
   I think we dont touch the naming. If people need to know who created a queue put it on the queue as meta data. That way also multiple fields can be cleanly defined and metricable. This was reason user who created a queue was put on the queue as such if clientid wants to be tracked it can be added in similar fashion as with ip (remote address)
   
   If people really want to play with queue names its actually possible already today as i had pointed out. They can use shared non durable subscriptions and put what they want as the subscription name giving them ultimate flexibility without affecting anyone else

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596077583
 
 
   -1
   
   I think we dont touch the naming. If people need to know who created a queue put it on the queue as meta data. That way also multiple fields can be cleanly defined and metricable. This was reason user who created a queue was put on the queue as such if clientid wants to be tracked it can be added in similar fashion as with ip (remote address)
   
   If people really want to play with queue names its actually possible already today as i had pointed out. They can use shared non durable subscriptions and put what they want as the subscription name giving them ultimate flexibility without affecting anyone else.

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596077583
 
 
   -1
   
   I think we dont touch the naming. If people need to know who created a queue put it on the queue as meta data. That way also multiple fields can be cleanly defined and metricable.
   
   If people really want to play with queue names its actually possible already today as i had pointed out.

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelandrepearce commented on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

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michaelandrepearce commented on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596058640
 
 
   E.g.  ID:<clientid>-IP:<ip>-USER:<user>-<uuid>
   

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596058640
 
 
   E.g.  
   `ID:<clientid>.USER:<user>-IP:<ip>.<uuid>`
   
   Dropping field if not present (e.g. drop client id part if not set>
   

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] brusdev edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
brusdev edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596074607
 
 
   I could revert all changes and add a prefix to the UUID without a separator, ie
   "< clientid >-< user >-< ip >-< uuid >". WDYT?

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelandrepearce commented on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

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URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596060496
 
 
   Im going to go ahead and revert whats in master till this is solved, the more i look at this having the extra details at queue level rather than mucking around with changing the existing naming strategy will be less impactful to all

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelandrepearce commented on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

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   As well should align openwire here also just noticed it has same logic in its naming see AMQConsumer

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelandrepearce commented on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

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   I kind of meant use all of it 

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

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michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596061074
 
 
   If havingg the meta data on the queue doesnt meet a specific users need and a user really really really really really wants the queue name to have a clientid in, they can make a shared non durable subscription with clientid set on connection and then set subscription name to a uuid via jms api. And it would give them the same.

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] brusdev commented on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

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URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596055306
 
 
   @michaelandrepearce I used user and hostname if no clientid for AMQP queue. Can you check if that's what you meant?

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] brusdev edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

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brusdev edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596074607
 
 
   I could revert all changes and add a prefix to the UUID without a separator, ie
   "<clientid>-<user>-<ip>-<uuid>". WDYT?

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelpearce-gain commented on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

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URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-595734781
 
 
   @brusdev i think we need to address the issue of no client id before this can merge, dont really want to have two lots of changes in changing the naming strategy;s

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[GitHub] [activemq-artemis] michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
michaelandrepearce edited a comment on issue #3006: ARTEMIS-2644 Fix AMQP naming convention in compatibility mode with CORE
URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596060217
 
 
   To be honest the more you look at this changing this logic everywhere is lookingdangerous as breaking some bits possible. Also what occurs when someone wants some other bit of data attached, we change it all again? Meah yucky
   
   Is the issue that you just need to identify the creator of a queue? Instead of changing the naming strategy why not have meta data on the queue itself, e.g  add client id, user and remote address onto the queue meta data?
   
   We already have user on the queue, just add additional bits into the queue and expose via jmx so available for metrics and console.
   
   This also then would work even if clients not upgraded which with core youre relying on.

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   E.g.  
   `ID:<clientid>-IP:<ip>-USER:<user>-<uuid>`
   

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URL: https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/3006#issuecomment-596077583
 
 
   -1
   
   I think we dont touch the naming, and avoid overloading them. If people need to know who created a queue put it on the queue as meta data. That way also multiple fields can be cleanly defined and metricable. This was reason user who created a queue was put on the queue as such if clientid wants to be tracked it can be added in similar fashion as with ip (remote address)
   
   If people really want to play with queue names its actually possible already today as i had pointed out. They can use shared non durable subscriptions and put what they want as the subscription name giving them ultimate flexibility without affecting anyone else.

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