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Posted to dev@servicemix.apache.org by Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> on 2020/03/04 06:38:32 UTC
Re: [PROPOSAL] Preparing Apache ServiceMix 8.0.0
Hi guys,
Sorry, I was busy with ActiveMQ and Karaf and didn’t have time to move forward about this discussion.
In order to avoid to pollute threads, I would start several formal votes (with options) about the moves we discussed.
I’m preparing this for today.
Thanks,
Regards
JB
> Le 28 janv. 2020 à 15:01, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> a écrit :
>
> Hi guys,
>
> If the ServiceMix project is fairly active for SMX Bundles and Specs, we
> clearly have a "slow pace" on distribution releases.
>
> Here, we have two approaches possible:
>
> 1. We clearly state on website and codebase that users should better use
> Karaf and create their own custom distribution if needed.
> 2. We begin a regular pace in distribution release.
>
> I think 1 makes more sense and it's worth to be mentioned in the SMX
> distribution.
>
> Regarding 2, I would like to propose a ServiceMix 8.0.0 with:
> - Update to Karaf 4.2.x
> - Update to Camel 3.0.1
> - Update on Activity
> - Cleanup and improved SMX features
> - Add itests in smx for coverage
>
> Another more "important" decision would be to retire ServiceMix to attic
> and move SMX Bundles and Specs as Karaf subprojects (as we have Karaf
> Decanter, Cave, Cellar, ...).
>
> I think it's fair to discuss about that as we don't see lot of activity
> on ServiceMix distribution/releases.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Regards
> JB
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [PROPOSAL] Preparing Apache ServiceMix 8.0.0
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Krzysztof,
Thanks for the report. Let me know if you need help about this during the weekend.
Regards
JB
> Le 6 mars 2020 à 16:23, Sobkowiak, Krzysztof <kr...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> Hi
>
> So I'll prepare the last report during the weekend and include there the information about plans to move the project to attic.
>
> Best regards
>
> Krzysztof
>
>
> On 06.03.2020 15:55, Jean-Baptiste Onofre wrote:
>> Hi Freeman,
>>
>> Yeah, it’s the plan I’m about the send on the mailing list.
>>
>> I’m preparing some bundles set (latest ;) ) and in the meantime, I’m preparing the "transition plan".
>>
>> I will send the plan during the weekend.
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>>> Le 6 mars 2020 à 15:50, Freeman Fang <fr...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>> +1.
>>> And we can do it after ServiceMix Bundles 2020.02 release(which should be
>>> the last bundle release from SMX side).
>>> Long Live, Servicemix!
>>> Thanks!
>>> Freeman
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 3:33 AM Guillaume Nodet <gn...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The consensus seems really lazy... ;-)
>>>> +1 to retire ServiceMix and move the bundles / specs into Karaf if that was
>>>> what you had in mind (given the thread subject, i had doubts for a moment).
>>>>
>>>> Le mer. 4 mars 2020 à 07:38, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
>>>> écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I was busy with ActiveMQ and Karaf and didn’t have time to move
>>>>> forward about this discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to avoid to pollute threads, I would start several formal votes
>>>>> (with options) about the moves we discussed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m preparing this for today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 28 janv. 2020 à 15:01, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the ServiceMix project is fairly active for SMX Bundles and Specs,
>>>> we
>>>>>> clearly have a "slow pace" on distribution releases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here, we have two approaches possible:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. We clearly state on website and codebase that users should better
>>>> use
>>>>>> Karaf and create their own custom distribution if needed.
>>>>>> 2. We begin a regular pace in distribution release.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think 1 makes more sense and it's worth to be mentioned in the SMX
>>>>>> distribution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding 2, I would like to propose a ServiceMix 8.0.0 with:
>>>>>> - Update to Karaf 4.2.x
>>>>>> - Update to Camel 3.0.1
>>>>>> - Update on Activity
>>>>>> - Cleanup and improved SMX features
>>>>>> - Add itests in smx for coverage
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another more "important" decision would be to retire ServiceMix to
>>>> attic
>>>>>> and move SMX Bundles and Specs as Karaf subprojects (as we have Karaf
>>>>>> Decanter, Cave, Cellar, ...).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it's fair to discuss about that as we don't see lot of activity
>>>>>> on ServiceMix distribution/releases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Preparing Apache ServiceMix 8.0.0
Posted by "Sobkowiak, Krzysztof" <kr...@gmail.com>.
Hi
So I'll prepare the last report during the weekend and include there the
information about plans to move the project to attic.
Best regards
Krzysztof
On 06.03.2020 15:55, Jean-Baptiste Onofre wrote:
> Hi Freeman,
>
> Yeah, it’s the plan I’m about the send on the mailing list.
>
> I’m preparing some bundles set (latest ;) ) and in the meantime, I’m preparing the "transition plan".
>
> I will send the plan during the weekend.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>> Le 6 mars 2020 à 15:50, Freeman Fang <fr...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> +1.
>> And we can do it after ServiceMix Bundles 2020.02 release(which should be
>> the last bundle release from SMX side).
>> Long Live, Servicemix!
>> Thanks!
>> Freeman
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 3:33 AM Guillaume Nodet <gn...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> The consensus seems really lazy... ;-)
>>> +1 to retire ServiceMix and move the bundles / specs into Karaf if that was
>>> what you had in mind (given the thread subject, i had doubts for a moment).
>>>
>>> Le mer. 4 mars 2020 à 07:38, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, I was busy with ActiveMQ and Karaf and didn’t have time to move
>>>> forward about this discussion.
>>>>
>>>> In order to avoid to pollute threads, I would start several formal votes
>>>> (with options) about the moves we discussed.
>>>>
>>>> I’m preparing this for today.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Le 28 janv. 2020 à 15:01, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
>>>> écrit :
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> If the ServiceMix project is fairly active for SMX Bundles and Specs,
>>> we
>>>>> clearly have a "slow pace" on distribution releases.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here, we have two approaches possible:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. We clearly state on website and codebase that users should better
>>> use
>>>>> Karaf and create their own custom distribution if needed.
>>>>> 2. We begin a regular pace in distribution release.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think 1 makes more sense and it's worth to be mentioned in the SMX
>>>>> distribution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding 2, I would like to propose a ServiceMix 8.0.0 with:
>>>>> - Update to Karaf 4.2.x
>>>>> - Update to Camel 3.0.1
>>>>> - Update on Activity
>>>>> - Cleanup and improved SMX features
>>>>> - Add itests in smx for coverage
>>>>>
>>>>> Another more "important" decision would be to retire ServiceMix to
>>> attic
>>>>> and move SMX Bundles and Specs as Karaf subprojects (as we have Karaf
>>>>> Decanter, Cave, Cellar, ...).
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it's fair to discuss about that as we don't see lot of activity
>>>>> on ServiceMix distribution/releases.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>
>>> --
>>> ------------------------
>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Preparing Apache ServiceMix 8.0.0
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Freeman,
Yeah, it’s the plan I’m about the send on the mailing list.
I’m preparing some bundles set (latest ;) ) and in the meantime, I’m preparing the "transition plan".
I will send the plan during the weekend.
Regards
JB
> Le 6 mars 2020 à 15:50, Freeman Fang <fr...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> +1.
> And we can do it after ServiceMix Bundles 2020.02 release(which should be
> the last bundle release from SMX side).
> Long Live, Servicemix!
> Thanks!
> Freeman
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 3:33 AM Guillaume Nodet <gn...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> The consensus seems really lazy... ;-)
>> +1 to retire ServiceMix and move the bundles / specs into Karaf if that was
>> what you had in mind (given the thread subject, i had doubts for a moment).
>>
>> Le mer. 4 mars 2020 à 07:38, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> Sorry, I was busy with ActiveMQ and Karaf and didn’t have time to move
>>> forward about this discussion.
>>>
>>> In order to avoid to pollute threads, I would start several formal votes
>>> (with options) about the moves we discussed.
>>>
>>> I’m preparing this for today.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>>
>>>> Le 28 janv. 2020 à 15:01, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
>>> écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> If the ServiceMix project is fairly active for SMX Bundles and Specs,
>> we
>>>> clearly have a "slow pace" on distribution releases.
>>>>
>>>> Here, we have two approaches possible:
>>>>
>>>> 1. We clearly state on website and codebase that users should better
>> use
>>>> Karaf and create their own custom distribution if needed.
>>>> 2. We begin a regular pace in distribution release.
>>>>
>>>> I think 1 makes more sense and it's worth to be mentioned in the SMX
>>>> distribution.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding 2, I would like to propose a ServiceMix 8.0.0 with:
>>>> - Update to Karaf 4.2.x
>>>> - Update to Camel 3.0.1
>>>> - Update on Activity
>>>> - Cleanup and improved SMX features
>>>> - Add itests in smx for coverage
>>>>
>>>> Another more "important" decision would be to retire ServiceMix to
>> attic
>>>> and move SMX Bundles and Specs as Karaf subprojects (as we have Karaf
>>>> Decanter, Cave, Cellar, ...).
>>>>
>>>> I think it's fair to discuss about that as we don't see lot of activity
>>>> on ServiceMix distribution/releases.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> ------------------------
>> Guillaume Nodet
>>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Preparing Apache ServiceMix 8.0.0
Posted by Freeman Fang <fr...@gmail.com>.
+1.
And we can do it after ServiceMix Bundles 2020.02 release(which should be
the last bundle release from SMX side).
Long Live, Servicemix!
Thanks!
Freeman
On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 3:33 AM Guillaume Nodet <gn...@apache.org> wrote:
> The consensus seems really lazy... ;-)
> +1 to retire ServiceMix and move the bundles / specs into Karaf if that was
> what you had in mind (given the thread subject, i had doubts for a moment).
>
> Le mer. 4 mars 2020 à 07:38, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
> écrit :
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Sorry, I was busy with ActiveMQ and Karaf and didn’t have time to move
> > forward about this discussion.
> >
> > In order to avoid to pollute threads, I would start several formal votes
> > (with options) about the moves we discussed.
> >
> > I’m preparing this for today.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> >
> > > Le 28 janv. 2020 à 15:01, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
> > écrit :
> > >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > If the ServiceMix project is fairly active for SMX Bundles and Specs,
> we
> > > clearly have a "slow pace" on distribution releases.
> > >
> > > Here, we have two approaches possible:
> > >
> > > 1. We clearly state on website and codebase that users should better
> use
> > > Karaf and create their own custom distribution if needed.
> > > 2. We begin a regular pace in distribution release.
> > >
> > > I think 1 makes more sense and it's worth to be mentioned in the SMX
> > > distribution.
> > >
> > > Regarding 2, I would like to propose a ServiceMix 8.0.0 with:
> > > - Update to Karaf 4.2.x
> > > - Update to Camel 3.0.1
> > > - Update on Activity
> > > - Cleanup and improved SMX features
> > > - Add itests in smx for coverage
> > >
> > > Another more "important" decision would be to retire ServiceMix to
> attic
> > > and move SMX Bundles and Specs as Karaf subprojects (as we have Karaf
> > > Decanter, Cave, Cellar, ...).
> > >
> > > I think it's fair to discuss about that as we don't see lot of activity
> > > on ServiceMix distribution/releases.
> > >
> > > Thoughts ?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > JB
> > > --
> > > Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> > > jbonofre@apache.org
> > > http://blog.nanthrax.net
> > > Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >
> >
>
> --
> ------------------------
> Guillaume Nodet
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Preparing Apache ServiceMix 8.0.0
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@apache.org>.
The consensus seems really lazy... ;-)
+1 to retire ServiceMix and move the bundles / specs into Karaf if that was
what you had in mind (given the thread subject, i had doubts for a moment).
Le mer. 4 mars 2020 à 07:38, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
écrit :
> Hi guys,
>
> Sorry, I was busy with ActiveMQ and Karaf and didn’t have time to move
> forward about this discussion.
>
> In order to avoid to pollute threads, I would start several formal votes
> (with options) about the moves we discussed.
>
> I’m preparing this for today.
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> > Le 28 janv. 2020 à 15:01, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
> écrit :
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > If the ServiceMix project is fairly active for SMX Bundles and Specs, we
> > clearly have a "slow pace" on distribution releases.
> >
> > Here, we have two approaches possible:
> >
> > 1. We clearly state on website and codebase that users should better use
> > Karaf and create their own custom distribution if needed.
> > 2. We begin a regular pace in distribution release.
> >
> > I think 1 makes more sense and it's worth to be mentioned in the SMX
> > distribution.
> >
> > Regarding 2, I would like to propose a ServiceMix 8.0.0 with:
> > - Update to Karaf 4.2.x
> > - Update to Camel 3.0.1
> > - Update on Activity
> > - Cleanup and improved SMX features
> > - Add itests in smx for coverage
> >
> > Another more "important" decision would be to retire ServiceMix to attic
> > and move SMX Bundles and Specs as Karaf subprojects (as we have Karaf
> > Decanter, Cave, Cellar, ...).
> >
> > I think it's fair to discuss about that as we don't see lot of activity
> > on ServiceMix distribution/releases.
> >
> > Thoughts ?
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> > --
> > Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> > jbonofre@apache.org
> > http://blog.nanthrax.net
> > Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
>
--
------------------------
Guillaume Nodet