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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> on 2009/04/22 11:24:24 UTC
RE: Getting Log4PHP going again.
Hi All,
Well things seem to be dying down here, ApacheCon well and truly over, board
meeting is done and this thread celebrates 1 month today :)
So, just checking in, can we do something about this Log4PHP revival ?
Thanks
Gav...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gavin [mailto:gavin@16degrees.com.au]
> Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 7:19 PM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Getting Log4PHP going again.
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christian Grobmeier [mailto:grobmeier@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 3:29 PM
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > any news on the log4php "issue"?
>
> I posted this thread originally on the 22nd, 1 day before ApacheCon week
> started, today is the first working day since ApacheCon ended. Incubator
> in
> general has been a ghost town during this time, so I expect (hope) that
> this
> will be picked up and acted on this week sometime.
>
> >
> > I have now been elected by Apache Commons as a Comitter and can help
> > more easy now.
>
> Excellent, congrats!
>
> > Is it possible to volunteer for comit access and help
> > log4php directly?
>
> I hope that is the case, lets wait to here.
>
> To recap, we have now :-
>
> myself (gmcdonald) - (see start of thread for what I offered to do)
> Grobmeier - main code dude
> Niclas hedhman - has offered to mentor and commit patches as necessary.
>
> Jim is still a Mentor so we need one more.
>
> Looking forward to showing that the road to the attic is a two way street
> -
> we don't need to go that way!
>
> Gav...
>
> >
> > Best,
> > Christian
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Niclas Hedhman <ni...@hedhman.org>
> > wrote:
> > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Christian Grobmeier
> > > <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> The log4php code is quite stable, but since the last big changes some
> > >> time has gone. PHP4, in which the code has been written, has reached
> > >> the end of its life in august 2008. No development will be done here.
> > >>
> > >> I really think that we should finish the development of the php4
> > >> branch in log4php too and just do bugfixes, if necessary. For the
> php4
> > >> branch could have a incubator release quite soon, i guess.
> > >>
> > >> We should concentrate in PHP5 and for this we need helping hands and
> a
> > bit time.
> > >
> > > I am not a PHP guy at all, but AFAIUI (only from the package
> > > resolution issues in Debian) the PHP4 and PHP5 is incompatible and
> > > that a port require substantial work.
> > >
> > > If so, that is a good thing and give some hope that it can be revived.
> > > The main issue about community is still a troublesome one, and IMHO a
> > > lot of blogosphere and article activities would be needed to get some
> > > attention to the project and hopefully some fresh souls.
> > >
> > > I support the idea of get going again, and can volunteer a Mentor role
> > > (thanks to Etch and Pivot being excellent podlings and require little
> > > time now). I can also assist in patch application, but can't review
> > > the code per se...
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Niclas
> > > --
> > > http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java
> > >
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RE: Getting Log4PHP going again.
Posted by Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Upayavira [mailto:uv@odoko.co.uk]
> Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2009 3:07 PM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Getting Log4PHP going again.
>
> On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 14:25 +1000, Gavin wrote:
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:jim@jaguNET.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2009 12:54 AM
> > > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
> > >
> > > If we already have your iCLA, I will add you post-haste!
> > >
> > > I *wish* some threads were dying down :)
> >
> > Yeah, me too Im getting a headache.
> >
> > The 'other' threads may have fried your brain however.
> >
> > I note you added Christian to the project which is great, but you seem
> to
> > have overlooked who started this thread and what he offered to do --
> namely
> > me. Although you are confident Christian can run the whole show on his
> own,
> > this is still an Incubator project, there is much to do in the way of
> > updating docs both on the log4php site pages and also its incubator
> related
> > pages. One active committer can also have a hard time making a release
> which
> > would be a goal to achieve over the next few months.
> >
> > Also, are you expecting Christian a relative newcomer to produce a
> log4php
> > report to submit to incubator? If so fine with that.
> >
> > Read back through the thread and you'll also see we need to delete 2
> mentors
> > and add one in that volunteered, leaving us with needing one more still.
> >
> > Anyway, blah blah blah, either add me in or don't let me know either
> way.
> >
> > And I must say I'm really disappointed at some of the Incubator folk
> here
> > who have chosen to completely ignore our pleas over the last month and a
> bit
> > to restart this project, they are happy to bring new ones in from
> scratch
> > but failed to help restart one already here..
>
> Hey Gav,
>
> Yeah, I suspect it did fry his brain.
>
> As far as I'm concerned, as a member, you can just volunteer, and that's
> it.
Right ok, thanks didn't' realise that.
> However, for your votes to count, you should join the Incubator PMC.
>
> Send a mail to private@ saying you want to join.
Did that yesterday, thanks for the hint.
> Then I'll add you to
> the committer list, if you don't add yourself first :-)
Ok, I'll wait to hear back about the PMC bit first then.
Thanks
Gav...
>
> Upayavira
>
>
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RE: Getting Log4PHP going again.
Posted by Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk>.
On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 14:25 +1000, Gavin wrote:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:jim@jaguNET.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2009 12:54 AM
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
> >
> > If we already have your iCLA, I will add you post-haste!
> >
> > I *wish* some threads were dying down :)
>
> Yeah, me too Im getting a headache.
>
> The 'other' threads may have fried your brain however.
>
> I note you added Christian to the project which is great, but you seem to
> have overlooked who started this thread and what he offered to do -- namely
> me. Although you are confident Christian can run the whole show on his own,
> this is still an Incubator project, there is much to do in the way of
> updating docs both on the log4php site pages and also its incubator related
> pages. One active committer can also have a hard time making a release which
> would be a goal to achieve over the next few months.
>
> Also, are you expecting Christian a relative newcomer to produce a log4php
> report to submit to incubator? If so fine with that.
>
> Read back through the thread and you'll also see we need to delete 2 mentors
> and add one in that volunteered, leaving us with needing one more still.
>
> Anyway, blah blah blah, either add me in or don't let me know either way.
>
> And I must say I'm really disappointed at some of the Incubator folk here
> who have chosen to completely ignore our pleas over the last month and a bit
> to restart this project, they are happy to bring new ones in from scratch
> but failed to help restart one already here..
Hey Gav,
Yeah, I suspect it did fry his brain.
As far as I'm concerned, as a member, you can just volunteer, and that's
it. However, for your votes to count, you should join the Incubator PMC.
Send a mail to private@ saying you want to join. Then I'll add you to
the committer list, if you don't add yourself first :-)
Upayavira
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RE: Getting Log4PHP going again.
Posted by Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:jim@jaguNET.com]
> Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2009 12:54 AM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
>
> If we already have your iCLA, I will add you post-haste!
>
> I *wish* some threads were dying down :)
Yeah, me too Im getting a headache.
The 'other' threads may have fried your brain however.
I note you added Christian to the project which is great, but you seem to
have overlooked who started this thread and what he offered to do -- namely
me. Although you are confident Christian can run the whole show on his own,
this is still an Incubator project, there is much to do in the way of
updating docs both on the log4php site pages and also its incubator related
pages. One active committer can also have a hard time making a release which
would be a goal to achieve over the next few months.
Also, are you expecting Christian a relative newcomer to produce a log4php
report to submit to incubator? If so fine with that.
Read back through the thread and you'll also see we need to delete 2 mentors
and add one in that volunteered, leaving us with needing one more still.
Anyway, blah blah blah, either add me in or don't let me know either way.
And I must say I'm really disappointed at some of the Incubator folk here
who have chosen to completely ignore our pleas over the last month and a bit
to restart this project, they are happy to bring new ones in from scratch
but failed to help restart one already here..
Gav...
>
> On Apr 23, 2009, at 5:42 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
> > Just want to confirm my interest in response.
> > My apache id is "grobmeier" - feel free to add me to the log4php
> > project :-)
> > Cheers
> > Christian
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
> > wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> Well things seem to be dying down here, ApacheCon well and truly
> >> over, board
> >> meeting is done and this thread celebrates 1 month today :)
> >>
> >> So, just checking in, can we do something about this Log4PHP
> >> revival ?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Gav...
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Gavin [mailto:gavin@16degrees.com.au]
> >>> Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 7:19 PM
> >>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >>> Subject: RE: Getting Log4PHP going again.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Christian Grobmeier [mailto:grobmeier@gmail.com]
> >>>> Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 3:29 PM
> >>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi folks,
> >>>>
> >>>> any news on the log4php "issue"?
> >>>
> >>> I posted this thread originally on the 22nd, 1 day before
> >>> ApacheCon week
> >>> started, today is the first working day since ApacheCon ended.
> >>> Incubator
> >>> in
> >>> general has been a ghost town during this time, so I expect (hope)
> >>> that
> >>> this
> >>> will be picked up and acted on this week sometime.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I have now been elected by Apache Commons as a Comitter and can
> >>>> help
> >>>> more easy now.
> >>>
> >>> Excellent, congrats!
> >>>
> >>>> Is it possible to volunteer for comit access and help
> >>>> log4php directly?
> >>>
> >>> I hope that is the case, lets wait to here.
> >>>
> >>> To recap, we have now :-
> >>>
> >>> myself (gmcdonald) - (see start of thread for what I offered to do)
> >>> Grobmeier - main code dude
> >>> Niclas hedhman - has offered to mentor and commit patches as
> >>> necessary.
> >>>
> >>> Jim is still a Mentor so we need one more.
> >>>
> >>> Looking forward to showing that the road to the attic is a two way
> >>> street
> >>> -
> >>> we don't need to go that way!
> >>>
> >>> Gav...
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> Christian
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Niclas Hedhman
> >>>> <ni...@hedhman.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Christian Grobmeier
> >>>>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The log4php code is quite stable, but since the last big
> >>>>>> changes some
> >>>>>> time has gone. PHP4, in which the code has been written, has
> >>>>>> reached
> >>>>>> the end of its life in august 2008. No development will be done
> >>>>>> here.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I really think that we should finish the development of the php4
> >>>>>> branch in log4php too and just do bugfixes, if necessary. For the
> >>> php4
> >>>>>> branch could have a incubator release quite soon, i guess.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We should concentrate in PHP5 and for this we need helping
> >>>>>> hands and
> >>> a
> >>>> bit time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am not a PHP guy at all, but AFAIUI (only from the package
> >>>>> resolution issues in Debian) the PHP4 and PHP5 is incompatible and
> >>>>> that a port require substantial work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If so, that is a good thing and give some hope that it can be
> >>>>> revived.
> >>>>> The main issue about community is still a troublesome one, and
> >>>>> IMHO a
> >>>>> lot of blogosphere and article activities would be needed to get
> >>>>> some
> >>>>> attention to the project and hopefully some fresh souls.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I support the idea of get going again, and can volunteer a
> >>>>> Mentor role
> >>>>> (thanks to Etch and Pivot being excellent podlings and require
> >>>>> little
> >>>>> time now). I can also assist in patch application, but can't
> >>>>> review
> >>>>> the code per se...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers
> >>>>> Niclas
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java
> >>>>>
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Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
If we already have your iCLA, I will add you post-haste!
I *wish* some threads were dying down :)
On Apr 23, 2009, at 5:42 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> Just want to confirm my interest in response.
> My apache id is "grobmeier" - feel free to add me to the log4php
> project :-)
> Cheers
> Christian
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Well things seem to be dying down here, ApacheCon well and truly
>> over, board
>> meeting is done and this thread celebrates 1 month today :)
>>
>> So, just checking in, can we do something about this Log4PHP
>> revival ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Gav...
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Gavin [mailto:gavin@16degrees.com.au]
>>> Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 7:19 PM
>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: RE: Getting Log4PHP going again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Christian Grobmeier [mailto:grobmeier@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 3:29 PM
>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
>>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> any news on the log4php "issue"?
>>>
>>> I posted this thread originally on the 22nd, 1 day before
>>> ApacheCon week
>>> started, today is the first working day since ApacheCon ended.
>>> Incubator
>>> in
>>> general has been a ghost town during this time, so I expect (hope)
>>> that
>>> this
>>> will be picked up and acted on this week sometime.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have now been elected by Apache Commons as a Comitter and can
>>>> help
>>>> more easy now.
>>>
>>> Excellent, congrats!
>>>
>>>> Is it possible to volunteer for comit access and help
>>>> log4php directly?
>>>
>>> I hope that is the case, lets wait to here.
>>>
>>> To recap, we have now :-
>>>
>>> myself (gmcdonald) - (see start of thread for what I offered to do)
>>> Grobmeier - main code dude
>>> Niclas hedhman - has offered to mentor and commit patches as
>>> necessary.
>>>
>>> Jim is still a Mentor so we need one more.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to showing that the road to the attic is a two way
>>> street
>>> -
>>> we don't need to go that way!
>>>
>>> Gav...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Niclas Hedhman
>>>> <ni...@hedhman.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>>>>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The log4php code is quite stable, but since the last big
>>>>>> changes some
>>>>>> time has gone. PHP4, in which the code has been written, has
>>>>>> reached
>>>>>> the end of its life in august 2008. No development will be done
>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really think that we should finish the development of the php4
>>>>>> branch in log4php too and just do bugfixes, if necessary. For the
>>> php4
>>>>>> branch could have a incubator release quite soon, i guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We should concentrate in PHP5 and for this we need helping
>>>>>> hands and
>>> a
>>>> bit time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not a PHP guy at all, but AFAIUI (only from the package
>>>>> resolution issues in Debian) the PHP4 and PHP5 is incompatible and
>>>>> that a port require substantial work.
>>>>>
>>>>> If so, that is a good thing and give some hope that it can be
>>>>> revived.
>>>>> The main issue about community is still a troublesome one, and
>>>>> IMHO a
>>>>> lot of blogosphere and article activities would be needed to get
>>>>> some
>>>>> attention to the project and hopefully some fresh souls.
>>>>>
>>>>> I support the idea of get going again, and can volunteer a
>>>>> Mentor role
>>>>> (thanks to Etch and Pivot being excellent podlings and require
>>>>> little
>>>>> time now). I can also assist in patch application, but can't
>>>>> review
>>>>> the code per se...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Niclas
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java
>>>>>
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Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
Just want to confirm my interest in response.
My apache id is "grobmeier" - feel free to add me to the log4php project :-)
Cheers
Christian
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Gavin <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Well things seem to be dying down here, ApacheCon well and truly over, board
> meeting is done and this thread celebrates 1 month today :)
>
> So, just checking in, can we do something about this Log4PHP revival ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Gav...
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gavin [mailto:gavin@16degrees.com.au]
>> Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 7:19 PM
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: Getting Log4PHP going again.
>>
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Christian Grobmeier [mailto:grobmeier@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Monday, 30 March 2009 3:29 PM
>> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: Getting Log4PHP going again.
>> >
>> > Hi folks,
>> >
>> > any news on the log4php "issue"?
>>
>> I posted this thread originally on the 22nd, 1 day before ApacheCon week
>> started, today is the first working day since ApacheCon ended. Incubator
>> in
>> general has been a ghost town during this time, so I expect (hope) that
>> this
>> will be picked up and acted on this week sometime.
>>
>> >
>> > I have now been elected by Apache Commons as a Comitter and can help
>> > more easy now.
>>
>> Excellent, congrats!
>>
>> > Is it possible to volunteer for comit access and help
>> > log4php directly?
>>
>> I hope that is the case, lets wait to here.
>>
>> To recap, we have now :-
>>
>> myself (gmcdonald) - (see start of thread for what I offered to do)
>> Grobmeier - main code dude
>> Niclas hedhman - has offered to mentor and commit patches as necessary.
>>
>> Jim is still a Mentor so we need one more.
>>
>> Looking forward to showing that the road to the attic is a two way street
>> -
>> we don't need to go that way!
>>
>> Gav...
>>
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Christian
>> >
>> > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Niclas Hedhman <ni...@hedhman.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>> > > <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> The log4php code is quite stable, but since the last big changes some
>> > >> time has gone. PHP4, in which the code has been written, has reached
>> > >> the end of its life in august 2008. No development will be done here.
>> > >>
>> > >> I really think that we should finish the development of the php4
>> > >> branch in log4php too and just do bugfixes, if necessary. For the
>> php4
>> > >> branch could have a incubator release quite soon, i guess.
>> > >>
>> > >> We should concentrate in PHP5 and for this we need helping hands and
>> a
>> > bit time.
>> > >
>> > > I am not a PHP guy at all, but AFAIUI (only from the package
>> > > resolution issues in Debian) the PHP4 and PHP5 is incompatible and
>> > > that a port require substantial work.
>> > >
>> > > If so, that is a good thing and give some hope that it can be revived.
>> > > The main issue about community is still a troublesome one, and IMHO a
>> > > lot of blogosphere and article activities would be needed to get some
>> > > attention to the project and hopefully some fresh souls.
>> > >
>> > > I support the idea of get going again, and can volunteer a Mentor role
>> > > (thanks to Etch and Pivot being excellent podlings and require little
>> > > time now). I can also assist in patch application, but can't review
>> > > the code per se...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Cheers
>> > > Niclas
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