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xenserver tools
H,
In the present template for systemvms on xen the xenserver tools are
not installed due to distribution rights issues. Now that xenserver is
open-sourced, can anyone say if they can be added again?
regards,
Daan
Re: xenserver tools
Posted by Abhinandan Prateek <Ab...@citrix.com>.
The GPL binaries should be provisioned in the template (using
tools/appliance/ scripts) and should not be part of the systemvm.iso.
The scripts in the iso can be modified as per the provisioned binaries.
Xenserver tools can be made available for all and will facilitate features
like dynamic scaling out of the box.
On 24/09/13 3:15 pm, "Daan Hoogland" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>meaning that we cannot solve this as proposed bu Joris. What should we
>do about making sure hte xenserver tools are on the system vms. should
>they go in the template or in the systemvm.iso? The question is kind
>of rethorical, the real question is; Are they a standard requirement
>that we want available for everyone?
>
>regards,
>Daan
>
>On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Abhinandan Prateek
><Ab...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> For including xstools in systemvm we will be modifying the scripts.
>> The gpl¹d binaries are not part of the distribution. That keeps us in
>> clear as far as licensing is concerned.
>>
>>
>> -abhi
>>
>> On 19/09/13 6:41 pm, "Daan Hoogland" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>yes, if someone can tell me if we can include gpl'd binaries in our
>>>git/distro I think we should. In that case I will file a bug.
>>>
>>>regards,
>>
Re: xenserver tools
Posted by Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>.
meaning that we cannot solve this as proposed bu Joris. What should we
do about making sure hte xenserver tools are on the system vms. should
they go in the template or in the systemvm.iso? The question is kind
of rethorical, the real question is; Are they a standard requirement
that we want available for everyone?
regards,
Daan
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Abhinandan Prateek
<Ab...@citrix.com> wrote:
> For including xstools in systemvm we will be modifying the scripts.
> The gpl¹d binaries are not part of the distribution. That keeps us in
> clear as far as licensing is concerned.
>
>
> -abhi
>
> On 19/09/13 6:41 pm, "Daan Hoogland" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>yes, if someone can tell me if we can include gpl'd binaries in our
>>git/distro I think we should. In that case I will file a bug.
>>
>>regards,
>
Re: xenserver tools
Posted by Abhinandan Prateek <Ab...@citrix.com>.
For including xstools in systemvm we will be modifying the scripts.
The gpl¹d binaries are not part of the distribution. That keeps us in
clear as far as licensing is concerned.
-abhi
On 19/09/13 6:41 pm, "Daan Hoogland" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>yes, if someone can tell me if we can include gpl'd binaries in our
>git/distro I think we should. In that case I will file a bug.
>
>regards,
Re: xenserver tools
Posted by Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Abhinandan Prateek
<Ab...@citrix.com> wrote:
> Do file a big to track.
does not compute&%$&^$@
Oh wait, you have a spellchecker active ;)
yes, if someone can tell me if we can include gpl'd binaries in our
git/distro I think we should. In that case I will file a bug.
regards,
Re: xenserver tools
Posted by Abhinandan Prateek <Ab...@citrix.com>.
Daan,
The xen tools are listed under GPL. Now are you planning to change the
scripts ? Do file a big to track.
Regards,
-abhi
On 19/09/13 8:01 am, "Abhinandan Prateek" <Ab...@citrix.com>
wrote:
>Here is the list of Xenserver products and related licenses
>http://www.xenserver.org/about-xenserver-open-source/gplv2-license.html.
>
>On 18/09/13 2:06 pm, "Daan Hoogland" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks to my colleague Joris,
>>
>>I can update the scripts in the sytemvm.iso but the real question is
>>about copy rights. Xenserver is gpl these days isn't it. Can we
>>redistribute them? any legal advice. The alternative is maintaining a
>>nonoss systemvm.iso and maybe template.
>>
>>regards,
>>Daan
>>
>>On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Abhinandan Prateek
>><Ab...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> Daan,
>>> The info you provided is useful.
>>> We are verifying the steps, once done will update the systemvm scripts.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17/09/13 6:03 pm, "Daan Hoogland" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Abhinandan,
>>>>
>>>>What we have seen so far is that two files in the xe-guest-utilities
>>>>package are missing, where CS assumes that they are there.
>>>>
>>>>/usr/bin/xenstore => used in script /usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs
>>>>(this script is also included in the package but overwritten by the CS
>>>>systemvm.iso scripts)
>>>>And
>>>>/etc/init.d/xe-linux-distribution => calls /usr/sbin/xe-daemon (this
>>>>script is also included in the package but overwritten by the CS
>>>>systemvm.iso scripts)
>>>>
>>>>This is the package we installed to fix it and the files included in
>>>>that package.
>>>>
>>>>root@r-8691-VM:~# dpkg -L xe-guest-utilities
>>>>/.
>>>>/usr
>>>>/usr/bin
>>>>/usr/bin/xenstore-write
>>>>/usr/bin/xenstore
>>>>/usr/bin/xenstore-read
>>>>/usr/bin/xenstore-exists
>>>>/usr/bin/xenstore-list
>>>>/usr/bin/xenstore-ls
>>>>/usr/bin/xenstore-chmod
>>>>/usr/bin/xenstore-rm
>>>>/usr/share
>>>>/usr/share/xe-guest-utilities
>>>>/usr/share/xe-guest-utilities/citrix.list
>>>>/usr/share/doc
>>>>/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities
>>>>/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities/COPYING.LGPL.gz
>>>>/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities/copyright
>>>>/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities/COPYING.gz
>>>>/usr/sbin
>>>>/usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs
>>>>/usr/sbin/xe-linux-distribution
>>>>/usr/sbin/xe-daemon
>>>>/etc
>>>>/etc/udev
>>>>/etc/udev/rules.d
>>>>/etc/udev/rules.d/z10_xen-vcpu-hotplug.rules
>>>>/etc/init.d
>>>>/etc/init.d/xe-linux-distribution
>>>>root@r-8691-VM:~# ls xe-guest-utilities_6.0.2-766_i386.deb
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Abhinandan Prateek
>>>><Ab...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>>> Daan,
>>>>> Do you know what all packages we need to add to get the tools
>>>>>working. I
>>>>> see that current scripts are installing xenstore-utils.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17/09/13 1:58 pm, "Daan Hoogland" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>H,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In the present template for systemvms on xen the xenserver tools are
>>>>>>not installed due to distribution rights issues. Now that xenserver
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>open-sourced, can anyone say if they can be added again?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>regards,
>>>>>>Daan
>>>>>
>>>
>
Re: xenserver tools
Posted by Abhinandan Prateek <Ab...@citrix.com>.
Here is the list of Xenserver products and related licenses
http://www.xenserver.org/about-xenserver-open-source/gplv2-license.html.
On 18/09/13 2:06 pm, "Daan Hoogland" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Thanks to my colleague Joris,
>
>I can update the scripts in the sytemvm.iso but the real question is
>about copy rights. Xenserver is gpl these days isn't it. Can we
>redistribute them? any legal advice. The alternative is maintaining a
>nonoss systemvm.iso and maybe template.
>
>regards,
>Daan
>
>On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Abhinandan Prateek
><Ab...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> Daan,
>> The info you provided is useful.
>> We are verifying the steps, once done will update the systemvm scripts.
>>
>>
>> On 17/09/13 6:03 pm, "Daan Hoogland" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Abhinandan,
>>>
>>>What we have seen so far is that two files in the xe-guest-utilities
>>>package are missing, where CS assumes that they are there.
>>>
>>>/usr/bin/xenstore => used in script /usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs
>>>(this script is also included in the package but overwritten by the CS
>>>systemvm.iso scripts)
>>>And
>>>/etc/init.d/xe-linux-distribution => calls /usr/sbin/xe-daemon (this
>>>script is also included in the package but overwritten by the CS
>>>systemvm.iso scripts)
>>>
>>>This is the package we installed to fix it and the files included in
>>>that package.
>>>
>>>root@r-8691-VM:~# dpkg -L xe-guest-utilities
>>>/.
>>>/usr
>>>/usr/bin
>>>/usr/bin/xenstore-write
>>>/usr/bin/xenstore
>>>/usr/bin/xenstore-read
>>>/usr/bin/xenstore-exists
>>>/usr/bin/xenstore-list
>>>/usr/bin/xenstore-ls
>>>/usr/bin/xenstore-chmod
>>>/usr/bin/xenstore-rm
>>>/usr/share
>>>/usr/share/xe-guest-utilities
>>>/usr/share/xe-guest-utilities/citrix.list
>>>/usr/share/doc
>>>/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities
>>>/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities/COPYING.LGPL.gz
>>>/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities/copyright
>>>/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities/COPYING.gz
>>>/usr/sbin
>>>/usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs
>>>/usr/sbin/xe-linux-distribution
>>>/usr/sbin/xe-daemon
>>>/etc
>>>/etc/udev
>>>/etc/udev/rules.d
>>>/etc/udev/rules.d/z10_xen-vcpu-hotplug.rules
>>>/etc/init.d
>>>/etc/init.d/xe-linux-distribution
>>>root@r-8691-VM:~# ls xe-guest-utilities_6.0.2-766_i386.deb
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Abhinandan Prateek
>>><Ab...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>> Daan,
>>>> Do you know what all packages we need to add to get the tools
>>>>working. I
>>>> see that current scripts are installing xenstore-utils.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 17/09/13 1:58 pm, "Daan Hoogland" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>H,
>>>>>
>>>>>In the present template for systemvms on xen the xenserver tools are
>>>>>not installed due to distribution rights issues. Now that xenserver is
>>>>>open-sourced, can anyone say if they can be added again?
>>>>>
>>>>>regards,
>>>>>Daan
>>>>
>>
Re: xenserver tools
Posted by Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>.
Thanks to my colleague Joris,
I can update the scripts in the sytemvm.iso but the real question is
about copy rights. Xenserver is gpl these days isn't it. Can we
redistribute them? any legal advice. The alternative is maintaining a
nonoss systemvm.iso and maybe template.
regards,
Daan
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Abhinandan Prateek
<Ab...@citrix.com> wrote:
> Daan,
> The info you provided is useful.
> We are verifying the steps, once done will update the systemvm scripts.
>
>
> On 17/09/13 6:03 pm, "Daan Hoogland" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi Abhinandan,
>>
>>What we have seen so far is that two files in the xe-guest-utilities
>>package are missing, where CS assumes that they are there.
>>
>>/usr/bin/xenstore => used in script /usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs
>>(this script is also included in the package but overwritten by the CS
>>systemvm.iso scripts)
>>And
>>/etc/init.d/xe-linux-distribution => calls /usr/sbin/xe-daemon (this
>>script is also included in the package but overwritten by the CS
>>systemvm.iso scripts)
>>
>>This is the package we installed to fix it and the files included in
>>that package.
>>
>>root@r-8691-VM:~# dpkg -L xe-guest-utilities
>>/.
>>/usr
>>/usr/bin
>>/usr/bin/xenstore-write
>>/usr/bin/xenstore
>>/usr/bin/xenstore-read
>>/usr/bin/xenstore-exists
>>/usr/bin/xenstore-list
>>/usr/bin/xenstore-ls
>>/usr/bin/xenstore-chmod
>>/usr/bin/xenstore-rm
>>/usr/share
>>/usr/share/xe-guest-utilities
>>/usr/share/xe-guest-utilities/citrix.list
>>/usr/share/doc
>>/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities
>>/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities/COPYING.LGPL.gz
>>/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities/copyright
>>/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities/COPYING.gz
>>/usr/sbin
>>/usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs
>>/usr/sbin/xe-linux-distribution
>>/usr/sbin/xe-daemon
>>/etc
>>/etc/udev
>>/etc/udev/rules.d
>>/etc/udev/rules.d/z10_xen-vcpu-hotplug.rules
>>/etc/init.d
>>/etc/init.d/xe-linux-distribution
>>root@r-8691-VM:~# ls xe-guest-utilities_6.0.2-766_i386.deb
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Abhinandan Prateek
>><Ab...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> Daan,
>>> Do you know what all packages we need to add to get the tools
>>>working. I
>>> see that current scripts are installing xenstore-utils.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17/09/13 1:58 pm, "Daan Hoogland" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>H,
>>>>
>>>>In the present template for systemvms on xen the xenserver tools are
>>>>not installed due to distribution rights issues. Now that xenserver is
>>>>open-sourced, can anyone say if they can be added again?
>>>>
>>>>regards,
>>>>Daan
>>>
>
Re: xenserver tools
Posted by Abhinandan Prateek <Ab...@citrix.com>.
Daan,
The info you provided is useful.
We are verifying the steps, once done will update the systemvm scripts.
On 17/09/13 6:03 pm, "Daan Hoogland" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi Abhinandan,
>
>What we have seen so far is that two files in the xe-guest-utilities
>package are missing, where CS assumes that they are there.
>
>/usr/bin/xenstore => used in script /usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs
>(this script is also included in the package but overwritten by the CS
>systemvm.iso scripts)
>And
>/etc/init.d/xe-linux-distribution => calls /usr/sbin/xe-daemon (this
>script is also included in the package but overwritten by the CS
>systemvm.iso scripts)
>
>This is the package we installed to fix it and the files included in
>that package.
>
>root@r-8691-VM:~# dpkg -L xe-guest-utilities
>/.
>/usr
>/usr/bin
>/usr/bin/xenstore-write
>/usr/bin/xenstore
>/usr/bin/xenstore-read
>/usr/bin/xenstore-exists
>/usr/bin/xenstore-list
>/usr/bin/xenstore-ls
>/usr/bin/xenstore-chmod
>/usr/bin/xenstore-rm
>/usr/share
>/usr/share/xe-guest-utilities
>/usr/share/xe-guest-utilities/citrix.list
>/usr/share/doc
>/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities
>/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities/COPYING.LGPL.gz
>/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities/copyright
>/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities/COPYING.gz
>/usr/sbin
>/usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs
>/usr/sbin/xe-linux-distribution
>/usr/sbin/xe-daemon
>/etc
>/etc/udev
>/etc/udev/rules.d
>/etc/udev/rules.d/z10_xen-vcpu-hotplug.rules
>/etc/init.d
>/etc/init.d/xe-linux-distribution
>root@r-8691-VM:~# ls xe-guest-utilities_6.0.2-766_i386.deb
>
>Thanks,
>
>On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Abhinandan Prateek
><Ab...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> Daan,
>> Do you know what all packages we need to add to get the tools
>>working. I
>> see that current scripts are installing xenstore-utils.
>>
>>
>> On 17/09/13 1:58 pm, "Daan Hoogland" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>H,
>>>
>>>In the present template for systemvms on xen the xenserver tools are
>>>not installed due to distribution rights issues. Now that xenserver is
>>>open-sourced, can anyone say if they can be added again?
>>>
>>>regards,
>>>Daan
>>
Re: xenserver tools
Posted by Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>.
Hi Abhinandan,
What we have seen so far is that two files in the xe-guest-utilities
package are missing, where CS assumes that they are there.
/usr/bin/xenstore => used in script /usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs
(this script is also included in the package but overwritten by the CS
systemvm.iso scripts)
And
/etc/init.d/xe-linux-distribution => calls /usr/sbin/xe-daemon (this
script is also included in the package but overwritten by the CS
systemvm.iso scripts)
This is the package we installed to fix it and the files included in
that package.
root@r-8691-VM:~# dpkg -L xe-guest-utilities
/.
/usr
/usr/bin
/usr/bin/xenstore-write
/usr/bin/xenstore
/usr/bin/xenstore-read
/usr/bin/xenstore-exists
/usr/bin/xenstore-list
/usr/bin/xenstore-ls
/usr/bin/xenstore-chmod
/usr/bin/xenstore-rm
/usr/share
/usr/share/xe-guest-utilities
/usr/share/xe-guest-utilities/citrix.list
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities
/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities/COPYING.LGPL.gz
/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities/copyright
/usr/share/doc/xe-guest-utilities/COPYING.gz
/usr/sbin
/usr/sbin/xe-update-guest-attrs
/usr/sbin/xe-linux-distribution
/usr/sbin/xe-daemon
/etc
/etc/udev
/etc/udev/rules.d
/etc/udev/rules.d/z10_xen-vcpu-hotplug.rules
/etc/init.d
/etc/init.d/xe-linux-distribution
root@r-8691-VM:~# ls xe-guest-utilities_6.0.2-766_i386.deb
Thanks,
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Abhinandan Prateek
<Ab...@citrix.com> wrote:
> Daan,
> Do you know what all packages we need to add to get the tools working. I
> see that current scripts are installing xenstore-utils.
>
>
> On 17/09/13 1:58 pm, "Daan Hoogland" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>H,
>>
>>In the present template for systemvms on xen the xenserver tools are
>>not installed due to distribution rights issues. Now that xenserver is
>>open-sourced, can anyone say if they can be added again?
>>
>>regards,
>>Daan
>
Re: xenserver tools
Posted by Abhinandan Prateek <Ab...@citrix.com>.
Daan,
Do you know what all packages we need to add to get the tools working. I
see that current scripts are installing xenstore-utils.
On 17/09/13 1:58 pm, "Daan Hoogland" <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>H,
>
>In the present template for systemvms on xen the xenserver tools are
>not installed due to distribution rights issues. Now that xenserver is
>open-sourced, can anyone say if they can be added again?
>
>regards,
>Daan