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[Issue 126526] New: Loaded styles not present on file re-open

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126526

          Issue ID: 126526
        Issue Type: DEFECT
           Summary: Loaded styles not present on file re-open
           Product: Writer
           Version: 4.1.1
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Windows 7
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P5
         Component: formatting
          Assignee: issues@openoffice.apache.org
          Reporter: johnhsneed@gmail.com

Created new file from template. (Both files are saved as Microsoft Word
97/2000/XP ~.doc)  The Custom styles present in the template file are not
present in the new text document file.
Load custom styles using Styles and Formatting | Page Styles | New Style from
Selection | Load Styles menu.
(Template file was present in "My Templates".)
Checked Text+Frame+Pages+Numbering+Overwrite boxes.
The expected styles did load properly.
The new file (with the new custom styles) is saved and closed.
The new file is re-opened.
The 'new custom styles' are not present, as expected.

Another instance (text document; Paper format = Letter):
Use menu Format | Page | Background color = Yellow10
The new text document (with the new page background color) is saved and closed.
The new text document is re-opened.
The page background color reverts to white (expected to be Yellow10).

Why don't the 'styles' persist when changed?

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[Issue 126526] Loaded styles not present on file re-open

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
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mroe <mr...@gmx.net> changed:

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--- Comment #3 from mroe <mr...@gmx.net> ---
There is a simple explanation: .doc doesn't know page styles.
Please use ODF (.odt for text) to use the complete functionality of Apache
OpenOffice.

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[Issue 126526] Loaded styles not present on file re-open

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Oz Wasserman <ow...@my.fit.edu> changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Oz Wasserman <ow...@my.fit.edu> ---
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Document from template in .doc format

Could replicate this issue under this specific configuration:

OS: Windows 7 Enterprise SP1, 64-bit
Version: Open Office 4.1.1[AOO411m6(Build:9775), Rev. 1617669]
Templates: Press release 1, created by Sun microsystems
Notepad, created by Sun microsystems

Steps of replication:

1. Created new document
2. Navigated to File->templates->organize
3. Selected the folder “My Templates” and clicked the command button on the
right side of the screen
4. Selected the “Import template” option
5. uploaded both of the templates to the directory
6. Closed the template management screen
7. Navigated to Format->Styles and Formatting
8. Clicked the right upper button and picked the Load styles option
9. selected “My templates” from the Categories window
10. Selected the Press release 1 template
11. Checked all the options at the bottom of the screen (Text, Frame, pages,
Numbering, Overwrite)
12. Clicked OK and the template style was loaded to the page
13. Navigated to File-> Save as.. And saved it as a Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP
(.doc) format
14. Closed the file
15. reopened the file and the styles disappeared from the document

Repeated all steps for the Notepad template (in step 10 I picked Notepad
instead of press release 1) and have gotten the same results. I have also
attached both the press release 1 template and the document after adjusting the
styles, to show the difference.

Could also replicate the minor case with changing the background to yellow.

Steps of replication:
1. Created new document
2. Navigated to Format->Page
3. Selected the Page tab and changed the Format to Letter
4. Selected the Background tab and changed the background to Yellow10
5. Closed the window
6. Navigated to File-> Save as.. And saved it as a Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP
(.doc) format
7. Closed the file
8. reopened the file and the background was white instead of the Yellow10 color



Even though this issue is reproducible, there was a comment that was prompted
while tried to save the files:
“This document may contain formatting or content that cannot be saved in the
Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP file format. Do you want to save the comment in this
format anyway? Use the latest ODF file format and be sure all formatting and
content is saved correctly”. This comment was followed by a selection of “Keep
Current Format” or “Save in ODF format”. This message explicitly said that
there might be a problem with the formatting in this specific format.

This seems to be a design issue rather than a specific coding error. When tried
to save it in .ODF file (and go over the reproduce steps), styles were loaded
back correctly in both templates when tried to re-open it. In addition, in the
version tested for this issue (4.1.1), there was no option for saving the file
in .docx, and the only possibility was to use the older word format. Here are a
few issues that might address this problem explicitly:

•There are no further details on template format support on the open office
wiki and developer documentation. The only information that is presented is the
actual templates repository. Even under file formats, there is only a table
specifying the actual formats, but not their output support
•As for September 2015, Wikipedia states that according to Net Application
firm, the market share for operating systems still includes 12.21% Windows XP
machines in use. Furthermore, Wikipedia also indicates that windows XP without
any service packs can only run office versions up to 2003, and up to 2010 with
service packs. Thus, XP machines with service packs can also open .docx
extensions, yet with this open office issue, the .docx seems not supported for
template styles as well. The distribution of XP can show that the users who
still use the .doc format and want to use templates under this format, can only
do so with open office, but not with Microsoft office and any other products
•Microsoft office also suggests a verity of templates that support .doc and
.docx formats, as well as .odt format (according to office documentation). If
the .doc format cannot be used to in open office for saving templates, one
might decide to work with the Microsoft templates that functions under these
formats instead
•There are similar bug references here 
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=94503
Same problem with templates style, yet the format is .rtf and not .doc

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=96307
Problem loading exported file from writer in .doc format. The file exported was
from an open office template

Both issues were claimed to be replicated by several people that were
commenting


Yet, according to the message prompt to the user in open office, it is
suggested to work with .odt formats rather than .doc formats for now.

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[Issue 126526] Loaded styles not present on file re-open

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--- Comment #2 from Oz Wasserman <ow...@my.fit.edu> ---
Created attachment 85023
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press_release template

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