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what we need: tutorials like this
We need an equivalent set of tutorials very simiar to the asp.net
quicjkstarts tutorial, but with tapestry. Step by step, building on simple
examples to more complex ones:
http://www.dotnetjunkies.com/quickstart/aspplus/doc/quickstart.aspx
This would make tapestry easier to work with and gain more popularity!
Cheers
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Re: what we need: tutorials like this
Posted by Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com>.
You have to also take into account that the people behind ASP.NET are housed
in one of the largest software companies in the world...
We do what we can but need more community help until we find a way to trick
IBM into installing tapestry on all their servers for a nominal fee. ;)
On 8/15/06, Gurps <g...@gurpal.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> Absolutely, i already have it. but it just doesn't cover things 100% like
> this. As I said it needs to be step by step - take a look at the dotnet
> tutorials, escpecially on stuff like rewinding/post-back/data binding.
> Believe me, I'd rather be doing Tapestry that ASP.NET !!
>
>
> karthik.nar wrote:
> >
> > get yourself a copy of Enjoying Web Development with Tapestry by Kent
> > Tong. It's got the tutorial approach to tapestry.
> >
> > On 8/15/06, Gurps <g...@gurpal.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> We need an equivalent set of tutorials very simiar to the asp.net
> >> quicjkstarts tutorial, but with tapestry. Step by step, building on
> >> simple
> >> examples to more complex ones:
> >>
> >> http://www.dotnetjunkies.com/quickstart/aspplus/doc/quickstart.aspx
> >>
> >> This would make tapestry easier to work with and gain more popularity!
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> --
> >> View this message in context:
> >>
> http://www.nabble.com/what-we-need%3A-tutorials-like-this-tf2110281.html#a5817876
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> >
> >
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Re: what we need: tutorials like this
Posted by Gurps <g...@gurpal.co.uk>.
Absolutely, i already have it. but it just doesn't cover things 100% like
this. As I said it needs to be step by step - take a look at the dotnet
tutorials, escpecially on stuff like rewinding/post-back/data binding.
Believe me, I'd rather be doing Tapestry that ASP.NET !!
karthik.nar wrote:
>
> get yourself a copy of Enjoying Web Development with Tapestry by Kent
> Tong. It's got the tutorial approach to tapestry.
>
> On 8/15/06, Gurps <g...@gurpal.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>> We need an equivalent set of tutorials very simiar to the asp.net
>> quicjkstarts tutorial, but with tapestry. Step by step, building on
>> simple
>> examples to more complex ones:
>>
>> http://www.dotnetjunkies.com/quickstart/aspplus/doc/quickstart.aspx
>>
>> This would make tapestry easier to work with and gain more popularity!
>>
>> Cheers
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://www.nabble.com/what-we-need%3A-tutorials-like-this-tf2110281.html#a5817876
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RE: what we need: tutorials like this
Posted by Varun Mehta <va...@persistent.co.in>.
I was just browsing through the 4.0 source code, most of the articles that
have been deprecated are still being used in the .page and .application
files, can anyone confirm this, as in has the data been updated, or is the
there a DTD diff between 4.0 and 4.1
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From: Onno Scheffers [mailto:onno@piraya.nl]
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 5:30 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: what we need: tutorials like this
m-woelm schreef:
>Hey folks,
>
>this is my first mail, so I shortly present my self. I am a student from
>germany and my job is to evaluate Tapestry for my professorship. Therefore,
>I have to write a simple application (small web-shop).
>
>
Welcome :o)
>Especially, how can I handle form-values of any input type and data type
and
>how can I validate them. And perhaps in a further step make them persistent
>with entity beans.
>
>
Have you looked at 'Enjoying Web Development with Tapestry' by Kent Tong?
The first four chapters of his book are freely available at
http://www.agileskills2.org/EWDT/
Chapter 2 covers Using forms and Chapter 3 covers validating input.
As a matter of fact, Chapter 4 covers creating a (very) simple e-shop :o)
>How can I combine multiple html-templates together to one big html with
>tapestry? It would be nice if there would be tutorial which explains this
>and only these separate single topics. At least for beginners, it is at
>least a little bit difficult to look through tutorials with more complexity
>like the workbench tutorial.
>
>
A page uses just 1 big template for generating its content.
But on that page you can have components, which can render their own
content based on their own templates. So you could easily create a
component that renders the header or footer of a page for example.
I would really start with reading the free chapters of 'Enjoying Web
Development with Tapestry'. It's a real nice intro that will ease you
into using Tapestry.
Regards,
Onno
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Re: what we need: tutorials like this
Posted by Onno Scheffers <on...@piraya.nl>.
m-woelm schreef:
>Hey folks,
>
>this is my first mail, so I shortly present my self. I am a student from
>germany and my job is to evaluate Tapestry for my professorship. Therefore,
>I have to write a simple application (small web-shop).
>
>
Welcome :o)
>Especially, how can I handle form-values of any input type and data type and
>how can I validate them. And perhaps in a further step make them persistent
>with entity beans.
>
>
Have you looked at 'Enjoying Web Development with Tapestry' by Kent Tong?
The first four chapters of his book are freely available at
http://www.agileskills2.org/EWDT/
Chapter 2 covers Using forms and Chapter 3 covers validating input.
As a matter of fact, Chapter 4 covers creating a (very) simple e-shop :o)
>How can I combine multiple html-templates together to one big html with
>tapestry? It would be nice if there would be tutorial which explains this
>and only these separate single topics. At least for beginners, it is at
>least a little bit difficult to look through tutorials with more complexity
>like the workbench tutorial.
>
>
A page uses just 1 big template for generating its content.
But on that page you can have components, which can render their own
content based on their own templates. So you could easily create a
component that renders the header or footer of a page for example.
I would really start with reading the free chapters of 'Enjoying Web
Development with Tapestry'. It's a real nice intro that will ease you
into using Tapestry.
Regards,
Onno
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AW: what we need: tutorials like this
Posted by m-woelm <ma...@m-woelm.de>.
Hey folks,
this is my first mail, so I shortly present my self. I am a student from
germany and my job is to evaluate Tapestry for my professorship. Therefore,
I have to write a simple application (small web-shop).
The tutorials I have seen are either very simple or even a little bit more
(too?) complex. For beginners I would not combine new tutorials with other
tools/api like AJAX or anything else. It would be nice to see tutorials only
to see a little more complexity but on a simple base.
Especially, how can I handle form-values of any input type and data type and
how can I validate them. And perhaps in a further step make them persistent
with entity beans.
And another problem that I actually have:
How can I combine multiple html-templates together to one big html with
tapestry? It would be nice if there would be tutorial which explains this
and only these separate single topics. At least for beginners, it is at
least a little bit difficult to look through tutorials with more complexity
like the workbench tutorial.
If there are tutorials available for these topics, it would be nice, if
anybody could send me a link to this tutorial.
Regards,
Michael Wölm
P.S.: I hope my English is not as bad I often think it is... ;)
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Von: Josh Long [mailto:starbuxman@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. August 2006 20:15
An: Tapestry users
Betreff: Re: what we need: tutorials like this
I wouldnt mind contributing esp. with 4.11 so prominently poised...
this stuff is just so cool to work with..
dojo has a book-by-wiki that theyre writing. the dotnet tutorials
could be pretty easily reworked on top of a wiki, and the wiki would
facilitate a colloborative effort.
Howards already written a few free tutorials on which to build. Maybe
those could be reworked as 3 (much expanded-upon) chapters...
By the end maybe we could build the canonical blog app or something
using the new ajax features, spring/hibernate 3/bean form, a crazy
border component, tapfx's Cache component (for caching, after all, is
a feature built right into rails), client side persistance,
bookmarkable links, etc. and then we can build it.. the
uber-widget... with dojo/ajax/tapestry... you know what im talking
about.. the much vaunted widget you will tell your children about...
::ahem:: or maybe not on that one.. but we could at least expand the
timettracker into a full fledged app youd be happy to have sitting in
a browser window somewhere!
Peace,
Josh
On 8/15/06, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree, some more free tutorials would be great!
>
> Who's going to write them? ;) (I'm a little busy at the moment)
>
> On 8/15/06, Karthik N <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > the first four chapters of his book are free, and pretty decent to get
you
> > started on the right track
> >
> > On 8/15/06, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Notice that the previous .Net-based example was *free* and Kent Tong's
> > > book
> > > is not. Don't get me wrong, I've got Kent's book and I love it. But,
I
> > > did
> > > have to pay for it. It would be nice if there were free resources out
> > > there
> > > that folks could use to get started (and get hooked) using Tapestry.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Karthik N [mailto:karthik.nar@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:06 PM
> > > To: Tapestry users
> > > Subject: Re: what we need: tutorials like this
> > >
> > > get yourself a copy of Enjoying Web Development with Tapestry by Kent
> > > Tong. It's got the tutorial approach to tapestry.
> > >
> > > On 8/15/06, Gurps <g...@gurpal.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We need an equivalent set of tutorials very simiar to the asp.net
> > > > quicjkstarts tutorial, but with tapestry. Step by step, building on
> > > simple
> > > > examples to more complex ones:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.dotnetjunkies.com/quickstart/aspplus/doc/quickstart.aspx
> > > >
> > > > This would make tapestry easier to work with and gain more
popularity!
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > --
> > > > View this message in context:
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
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>
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Re: what we need: tutorials like this
Posted by Josh Long <st...@gmail.com>.
I wouldnt mind contributing esp. with 4.11 so prominently poised...
this stuff is just so cool to work with..
dojo has a book-by-wiki that theyre writing. the dotnet tutorials
could be pretty easily reworked on top of a wiki, and the wiki would
facilitate a colloborative effort.
Howards already written a few free tutorials on which to build. Maybe
those could be reworked as 3 (much expanded-upon) chapters...
By the end maybe we could build the canonical blog app or something
using the new ajax features, spring/hibernate 3/bean form, a crazy
border component, tapfx's Cache component (for caching, after all, is
a feature built right into rails), client side persistance,
bookmarkable links, etc. and then we can build it.. the
uber-widget... with dojo/ajax/tapestry... you know what im talking
about.. the much vaunted widget you will tell your children about...
::ahem:: or maybe not on that one.. but we could at least expand the
timettracker into a full fledged app youd be happy to have sitting in
a browser window somewhere!
Peace,
Josh
On 8/15/06, Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree, some more free tutorials would be great!
>
> Who's going to write them? ;) (I'm a little busy at the moment)
>
> On 8/15/06, Karthik N <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > the first four chapters of his book are free, and pretty decent to get you
> > started on the right track
> >
> > On 8/15/06, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Notice that the previous .Net-based example was *free* and Kent Tong's
> > > book
> > > is not. Don't get me wrong, I've got Kent's book and I love it. But, I
> > > did
> > > have to pay for it. It would be nice if there were free resources out
> > > there
> > > that folks could use to get started (and get hooked) using Tapestry.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Karthik N [mailto:karthik.nar@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:06 PM
> > > To: Tapestry users
> > > Subject: Re: what we need: tutorials like this
> > >
> > > get yourself a copy of Enjoying Web Development with Tapestry by Kent
> > > Tong. It's got the tutorial approach to tapestry.
> > >
> > > On 8/15/06, Gurps <g...@gurpal.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We need an equivalent set of tutorials very simiar to the asp.net
> > > > quicjkstarts tutorial, but with tapestry. Step by step, building on
> > > simple
> > > > examples to more complex ones:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.dotnetjunkies.com/quickstart/aspplus/doc/quickstart.aspx
> > > >
> > > > This would make tapestry easier to work with and gain more popularity!
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > --
> > > > View this message in context:
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.nabble.com/what-we-need%3A-tutorials-like-this-tf2110281.html#a58
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Re: what we need: tutorials like this
Posted by Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com>.
I agree, some more free tutorials would be great!
Who's going to write them? ;) (I'm a little busy at the moment)
On 8/15/06, Karthik N <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> the first four chapters of his book are free, and pretty decent to get you
> started on the right track
>
> On 8/15/06, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> >
> > Notice that the previous .Net-based example was *free* and Kent Tong's
> > book
> > is not. Don't get me wrong, I've got Kent's book and I love it. But, I
> > did
> > have to pay for it. It would be nice if there were free resources out
> > there
> > that folks could use to get started (and get hooked) using Tapestry.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Karthik N [mailto:karthik.nar@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:06 PM
> > To: Tapestry users
> > Subject: Re: what we need: tutorials like this
> >
> > get yourself a copy of Enjoying Web Development with Tapestry by Kent
> > Tong. It's got the tutorial approach to tapestry.
> >
> > On 8/15/06, Gurps <g...@gurpal.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > We need an equivalent set of tutorials very simiar to the asp.net
> > > quicjkstarts tutorial, but with tapestry. Step by step, building on
> > simple
> > > examples to more complex ones:
> > >
> > > http://www.dotnetjunkies.com/quickstart/aspplus/doc/quickstart.aspx
> > >
> > > This would make tapestry easier to work with and gain more popularity!
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > --
> > > View this message in context:
> > >
> >
> >
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> > 17876
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>
>
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Open source based consulting work centered around
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Re: what we need: tutorials like this
Posted by Karthik N <ka...@gmail.com>.
the first four chapters of his book are free, and pretty decent to get you
started on the right track
On 8/15/06, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> Notice that the previous .Net-based example was *free* and Kent Tong's
> book
> is not. Don't get me wrong, I've got Kent's book and I love it. But, I
> did
> have to pay for it. It would be nice if there were free resources out
> there
> that folks could use to get started (and get hooked) using Tapestry.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karthik N [mailto:karthik.nar@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:06 PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: what we need: tutorials like this
>
> get yourself a copy of Enjoying Web Development with Tapestry by Kent
> Tong. It's got the tutorial approach to tapestry.
>
> On 8/15/06, Gurps <g...@gurpal.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >
> > We need an equivalent set of tutorials very simiar to the asp.net
> > quicjkstarts tutorial, but with tapestry. Step by step, building on
> simple
> > examples to more complex ones:
> >
> > http://www.dotnetjunkies.com/quickstart/aspplus/doc/quickstart.aspx
> >
> > This would make tapestry easier to work with and gain more popularity!
> >
> > Cheers
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
>
> http://www.nabble.com/what-we-need%3A-tutorials-like-this-tf2110281.html#a58
> 17876
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>
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RE: what we need: tutorials like this
Posted by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>.
Notice that the previous .Net-based example was *free* and Kent Tong's book
is not. Don't get me wrong, I've got Kent's book and I love it. But, I did
have to pay for it. It would be nice if there were free resources out there
that folks could use to get started (and get hooked) using Tapestry.
-----Original Message-----
From: Karthik N [mailto:karthik.nar@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:06 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: what we need: tutorials like this
get yourself a copy of Enjoying Web Development with Tapestry by Kent
Tong. It's got the tutorial approach to tapestry.
On 8/15/06, Gurps <g...@gurpal.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> We need an equivalent set of tutorials very simiar to the asp.net
> quicjkstarts tutorial, but with tapestry. Step by step, building on simple
> examples to more complex ones:
>
> http://www.dotnetjunkies.com/quickstart/aspplus/doc/quickstart.aspx
>
> This would make tapestry easier to work with and gain more popularity!
>
> Cheers
> --
> View this message in context:
>
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Re: what we need: tutorials like this
Posted by Karthik N <ka...@gmail.com>.
get yourself a copy of Enjoying Web Development with Tapestry by Kent
Tong. It's got the tutorial approach to tapestry.
On 8/15/06, Gurps <g...@gurpal.co.uk> wrote:
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> We need an equivalent set of tutorials very simiar to the asp.net
> quicjkstarts tutorial, but with tapestry. Step by step, building on simple
> examples to more complex ones:
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> http://www.dotnetjunkies.com/quickstart/aspplus/doc/quickstart.aspx
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> This would make tapestry easier to work with and gain more popularity!
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> Cheers
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