Re: Subversion support on eclipse

[Gianugo Rabellino <gi...@apache.org>]

Antonio Gallardo wrote:

> Gianugo Rabellino dijo:
> 
>>Marc Portier wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>(though what I'd really like to see is a more clean separation of
>>>>stable/unstable blocks, possibly with a clear directory hierarchy
>>>>(src/blocks/stable, src/blocks/unstable), a default commented out
>>>
>>>
>>>-1 on dir structure, cvs hastle would kinda prevent blocks of becoming
>>>stable, right?
>>
>>Right (how I wish that we would switch to Subversion anytime soon...).
> 
> 
> Hi:
> 
> I am waiting for Fedora Core 2 with Subversion included! When it happens I
> will push too for the Subversion usage. :-)

<rant>

Well, I feel a bit like an old aunt sitting on the porch and muttering 
about the good old times, but I really feel at loss when I see what is 
supposedly the cream of the crop of techies around the world becoming 
sissies when a far better technology isn't supported in their favorite 
GUI... I really fail to see why the most important Subversion migration 
issue is lack of support in the IDE.

Actually, as a CLI diehard I'm used to fire Eclipse only for seriously 
tangled stuff or for debugging: my typical development environment is 
CLI-based anyway (vim+ant+cvs/svn) so I might be biased but, ah, the 
good old times when Real Programmers did punched cards... :-)))

</rant>

Ciao,

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Re: Subversion support on eclipse

[Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>]

Gianugo Rabellino dijo:
> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>
>> Gianugo Rabellino dijo:
>>
>>>Marc Portier wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>(though what I'd really like to see is a more clean separation of
>>>>>stable/unstable blocks, possibly with a clear directory hierarchy
>>>>>(src/blocks/stable, src/blocks/unstable), a default commented out
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-1 on dir structure, cvs hastle would kinda prevent blocks of becoming
>>>>stable, right?
>>>
>>>Right (how I wish that we would switch to Subversion anytime soon...).
>>
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I am waiting for Fedora Core 2 with Subversion included! When it happens
>> I
>> will push too for the Subversion usage. :-)
>
> <rant>
>
> Well, I feel a bit like an old aunt sitting on the porch and muttering
> about the good old times, but I really feel at loss when I see what is
> supposedly the cream of the crop of techies around the world becoming
> sissies when a far better technology isn't supported in their favorite
> GUI... I really fail to see why the most important Subversion migration
> issue is lack of support in the IDE.

ROTFL!

> Actually, as a CLI diehard I'm used to fire Eclipse only for seriously
> tangled stuff or for debugging: my typical development environment is
> CLI-based anyway (vim+ant+cvs/svn) so I might be biased but, ah, the
> good old times when Real Programmers did punched cards... :-)))
>
> </rant>

Hi Mr. Bruce Willis! :-D

Well, I just saw a glipse of "good times" on the corner of my eye. Then,
the world evolutioned as we know it today.

I almost never use a debugger.... In the good times there was not
debuggers and at the University they was almost fobidden in the first
year. The first one used was dbx (is this the right name?) in a UNIX
terminal, then Turbo Debugger from Borland (that was really cool!, I liked
the disassembler option) for Assembler and C.

In my nearly 2 years using Cocoon I run it maybe handful of time and that
is too many times. I prefer to insert some temporary log instructions
between the code when things goes really bad. But almost all the time the
syntax assistant of eclipse is enough to write good code.

vim just when ssh and CLI and some /etc editing.
cvs for a testing version of cocoon in another directory to test after
commiting.

My current development environment is:

eclipse: For cvs downloading and Java writing.
JEdit for anything that is not Java (XML, Javascript, etc).
ant for building all the stuff: Cocoon, OJB, Druid and others libs. In
some cases Ant called from eclipse.

:-D

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.

Re: Subversion support on eclipse

[Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org>]

Gianugo Rabellino wrote:

> ah, the
> good old times when Real Programmers did punched cards... :-)))

... and took 20 years to do anything ;-)

-- 
Stefano.