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[jira] Created: (DIRSTUDIO-345) Studio startup could configure
suitable version of Java
Studio startup could configure suitable version of Java
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Key: DIRSTUDIO-345
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-345
Project: Directory Studio
Issue Type: Improvement
Components: studio-rcp
Reporter: Sebb
I have several versions of Java installed; it so happens that the default is Java 1.4.2.
This does not seem to be a problem for Directory Server, which found the Java 1.6 JRE and updated the .ini file accordingly, but Studio does not do this.
The Studio installation program could be enhanced to create the appropriate entry in the ini file.
Failing that, I suggest that a sample ini file be included in the installation with examples of possible entries.
Might be a good idea to include one anyway.
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[jira] Commented: (DIRSTUDIO-345) Studio startup could configure
suitable version of Java
Posted by "Emmanuel Lecharny (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Emmanuel Lecharny commented on DIRSTUDIO-345:
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Sadly, we can't bundle a JRE (well, yes we can bundle Harmony ;) due to licensing problems so option 1 can't be considered.
Regarding option 2, the idea is that when launching the installer, we detect the local JVMs, and if we find at least one which is > 1.4, we propose the list to the user. If we don't find a correct JVM, we have to inform the user that he can either abort the installer, install a more recent JVM, _or_ let him finish the installation and inform him that the product won't run because of the lack of decent JVM.
Thanks Jeff !
> Studio startup could configure suitable version of Java
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: DIRSTUDIO-345
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-345
> Project: Directory Studio
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: studio-rcp
> Reporter: Sebb
>
> I have several versions of Java installed; it so happens that the default is Java 1.4.2.
> This does not seem to be a problem for Directory Server, which found the Java 1.6 JRE and updated the .ini file accordingly, but Studio does not do this.
> The Studio installation program could be enhanced to create the appropriate entry in the ini file.
> Failing that, I suggest that a sample ini file be included in the installation with examples of possible entries.
> Might be a good idea to include one anyway.
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[jira] Commented: (DIRSTUDIO-345) Studio startup could configure
suitable version of Java
Posted by "Emmanuel Lecharny (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Emmanuel Lecharny commented on DIRSTUDIO-345:
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Forget to add that we can ask the user for the path to a correct JVM in a dialog box.
> Studio startup could configure suitable version of Java
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: DIRSTUDIO-345
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-345
> Project: Directory Studio
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: studio-rcp
> Reporter: Sebb
>
> I have several versions of Java installed; it so happens that the default is Java 1.4.2.
> This does not seem to be a problem for Directory Server, which found the Java 1.6 JRE and updated the .ini file accordingly, but Studio does not do this.
> The Studio installation program could be enhanced to create the appropriate entry in the ini file.
> Failing that, I suggest that a sample ini file be included in the installation with examples of possible entries.
> Might be a good idea to include one anyway.
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[jira] Commented: (DIRSTUDIO-345) Studio startup could configure
suitable version of Java
Posted by "Jeff MAURY (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Jeff MAURY commented on DIRSTUDIO-345:
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Inclusion does not mean installation so that it won't interfere with previous user installation.
The pros of having a separate JRE bundled with Studio are warranty to work including the case where the user choose an external JRE then uninstall it and Studio does not work anymore. This is a very bad common case for Java applications. I don"t think the user should take care of the JRE when installing a Java application
The cons are increased bundle size.
> Studio startup could configure suitable version of Java
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: DIRSTUDIO-345
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-345
> Project: Directory Studio
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: studio-rcp
> Reporter: Sebb
>
> I have several versions of Java installed; it so happens that the default is Java 1.4.2.
> This does not seem to be a problem for Directory Server, which found the Java 1.6 JRE and updated the .ini file accordingly, but Studio does not do this.
> The Studio installation program could be enhanced to create the appropriate entry in the ini file.
> Failing that, I suggest that a sample ini file be included in the installation with examples of possible entries.
> Might be a good idea to include one anyway.
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[jira] Updated: (DIRSTUDIO-345) Studio startup could configure
suitable version of Java
Posted by "Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot updated DIRSTUDIO-345:
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Fix Version/s: 2.0.0
Assignee: Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot
> Studio startup could configure suitable version of Java
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: DIRSTUDIO-345
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-345
> Project: Directory Studio
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: studio-rcp
> Reporter: Sebb
> Assignee: Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot
> Fix For: 2.0.0
>
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> I have several versions of Java installed; it so happens that the default is Java 1.4.2.
> This does not seem to be a problem for Directory Server, which found the Java 1.6 JRE and updated the .ini file accordingly, but Studio does not do this.
> The Studio installation program could be enhanced to create the appropriate entry in the ini file.
> Failing that, I suggest that a sample ini file be included in the installation with examples of possible entries.
> Might be a good idea to include one anyway.
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[jira] Commented: (DIRSTUDIO-345) Studio startup could configure
suitable version of Java
Posted by "Jeff MAURY (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Jeff MAURY commented on DIRSTUDIO-345:
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There are other ways to fix this problem:
1) install a JRE with the Studio. Depending on the installer technology (I don't know which is the currently one used), this is feasible, a little more complex because we need to ship JRE for every platform, but this is guaranteed to work
2) Instead of rejecting the installation, I would prefer a warning message asking the user to install the proper JDK and adding a dependency on the correct version of the JDK in one the studio plugin (product) so that starting Studio with the incorrect JDK will be refused correctly
> Studio startup could configure suitable version of Java
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: DIRSTUDIO-345
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-345
> Project: Directory Studio
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: studio-rcp
> Reporter: Sebb
>
> I have several versions of Java installed; it so happens that the default is Java 1.4.2.
> This does not seem to be a problem for Directory Server, which found the Java 1.6 JRE and updated the .ini file accordingly, but Studio does not do this.
> The Studio installation program could be enhanced to create the appropriate entry in the ini file.
> Failing that, I suggest that a sample ini file be included in the installation with examples of possible entries.
> Might be a good idea to include one anyway.
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[jira] Commented: (DIRSTUDIO-345) Studio startup could configure
suitable version of Java
Posted by "Sebb (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Sebb commented on DIRSTUDIO-345:
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Including a JRE is all very well, but if that is installed, it should not be installed as the default, as that may mess with the users settings.
In which case, unless Studio is also updated to pick that JRE, the original problem still stands.
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If you want to provide an additional installation package that includes a JRE, fine.
But I don't think users should be forced to download a JRE if they already have a suitable one installed.
> Studio startup could configure suitable version of Java
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: DIRSTUDIO-345
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-345
> Project: Directory Studio
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: studio-rcp
> Reporter: Sebb
>
> I have several versions of Java installed; it so happens that the default is Java 1.4.2.
> This does not seem to be a problem for Directory Server, which found the Java 1.6 JRE and updated the .ini file accordingly, but Studio does not do this.
> The Studio installation program could be enhanced to create the appropriate entry in the ini file.
> Failing that, I suggest that a sample ini file be included in the installation with examples of possible entries.
> Might be a good idea to include one anyway.
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Posted by "Jeff MAURY (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Jeff MAURY commented on DIRSTUDIO-345:
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Regarding 1), redistribution of the JRE is allowed (not for JDK), see http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/jre/README, so what are the licensing problems ?
> Studio startup could configure suitable version of Java
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: DIRSTUDIO-345
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-345
> Project: Directory Studio
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: studio-rcp
> Reporter: Sebb
>
> I have several versions of Java installed; it so happens that the default is Java 1.4.2.
> This does not seem to be a problem for Directory Server, which found the Java 1.6 JRE and updated the .ini file accordingly, but Studio does not do this.
> The Studio installation program could be enhanced to create the appropriate entry in the ini file.
> Failing that, I suggest that a sample ini file be included in the installation with examples of possible entries.
> Might be a good idea to include one anyway.
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[jira] Commented: (DIRSTUDIO-345) Studio startup could configure
suitable version of Java
Posted by "Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot commented on DIRSTUDIO-345:
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That's a good idea Sebb.
> Studio startup could configure suitable version of Java
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: DIRSTUDIO-345
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-345
> Project: Directory Studio
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: studio-rcp
> Reporter: Sebb
>
> I have several versions of Java installed; it so happens that the default is Java 1.4.2.
> This does not seem to be a problem for Directory Server, which found the Java 1.6 JRE and updated the .ini file accordingly, but Studio does not do this.
> The Studio installation program could be enhanced to create the appropriate entry in the ini file.
> Failing that, I suggest that a sample ini file be included in the installation with examples of possible entries.
> Might be a good idea to include one anyway.
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Sebb commented on DIRSTUDIO-345:
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@Pierre:
Sounds good, except that I think an ini file should always be created.
It should contain comments showing how to change various aspects of startup, e.g. memory etc.
Perhaps with a link to documentation of the options.
@Jeff: so long as the bundled JRE is an option. I really don't want multiple copies of JREs installed on my system.
> Studio startup could configure suitable version of Java
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: DIRSTUDIO-345
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-345
> Project: Directory Studio
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: studio-rcp
> Reporter: Sebb
>
> I have several versions of Java installed; it so happens that the default is Java 1.4.2.
> This does not seem to be a problem for Directory Server, which found the Java 1.6 JRE and updated the .ini file accordingly, but Studio does not do this.
> The Studio installation program could be enhanced to create the appropriate entry in the ini file.
> Failing that, I suggest that a sample ini file be included in the installation with examples of possible entries.
> Might be a good idea to include one anyway.
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[jira] Commented: (DIRSTUDIO-345) Studio startup could configure
suitable version of Java
Posted by "Emmanuel Lecharny (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Emmanuel Lecharny commented on DIRSTUDIO-345:
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The installer should propose the existing JVM, and only the JVM > 1.4. If there are none, then the installer should fail.
Configuring the script is a workaround, IMHO.
> Studio startup could configure suitable version of Java
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: DIRSTUDIO-345
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-345
> Project: Directory Studio
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: studio-rcp
> Reporter: Sebb
>
> I have several versions of Java installed; it so happens that the default is Java 1.4.2.
> This does not seem to be a problem for Directory Server, which found the Java 1.6 JRE and updated the .ini file accordingly, but Studio does not do this.
> The Studio installation program could be enhanced to create the appropriate entry in the ini file.
> Failing that, I suggest that a sample ini file be included in the installation with examples of possible entries.
> Might be a good idea to include one anyway.
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suitable version of Java
Posted by "Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot commented on DIRSTUDIO-345:
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I've looked at what can be done within the NSIS framework we use to build the Windows installer.
We are able to detect the default JRE, but not all the available JREs.
What I propose is having a check for a default JRE installed on the system.
If there's one, we check the version.
If the version is greater or equal to 1.5.0,
then it's ok, the installer goes on,
else we display a page where the user is informed that a 1.5.0+ JRE is needed and where he can point us to a correct JRE home directory and in this case an "Apache Directory Studio.ini" file is created and contains the path to this JRE.
In the case where we can't find any Default JRE installed we display a page where the user is informed that a 1.5.0+ JRE needs to be installed to run Apache Directory Studio.
WDYT ?
> Studio startup could configure suitable version of Java
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: DIRSTUDIO-345
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-345
> Project: Directory Studio
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: studio-rcp
> Reporter: Sebb
>
> I have several versions of Java installed; it so happens that the default is Java 1.4.2.
> This does not seem to be a problem for Directory Server, which found the Java 1.6 JRE and updated the .ini file accordingly, but Studio does not do this.
> The Studio installation program could be enhanced to create the appropriate entry in the ini file.
> Failing that, I suggest that a sample ini file be included in the installation with examples of possible entries.
> Might be a good idea to include one anyway.
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