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Posted to users@tapestry.apache.org by Jon Williams <wi...@gmail.com> on 2013/04/26 21:04:40 UTC

Minimum Heap Size to run basic Tapestry 5 archetype example smoothly

I'd like to know the Minimum Heap Size req'd to run the basic Tapestry 5
archetype example smoothly.
I am running my war on Jetty in a hosted environment.

Currently I'm running in to issues with 64MB of heap.
I don't have plans to make this app behave much beyond a static website.
And I'd like to keep my hosting plan cheap as it's only $9/month. (
http://jvmhost.com)
What would you suggest?

Thanks
Jon

HTTP ERROR 500

Problem accessing /site/. Reason:

    GC overhead limit exceeded

Caused by:

java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

------------------------------
*Powered by Jetty://*
*
*

Re: Minimum Heap Size to run basic Tapestry 5 archetype example smoothly

Posted by Michael Prescott <mi...@gmail.com>.
I recently went through the same process, looking for a decent host that
would hose me on memory costs.  In the end I settled on using an existing
WebFaction account with a RAM upgrade, running jetty as a so-called custom
app. I think it's a fair bit cheaper than that, if a small hassle to get it
started.  Also JDK 1.6.

Michael


On 26 April 2013 18:08, Jon Williams <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Weill I went from $9/mo all the way up to $30/mo. Tapestry is now costing
> me $21 a month. Ok, so if I make $30 a month off tapestry work, my work
> terrarium will thrive!
>
> Thanks Howard
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Well, you can measure this kind of thing with VisualVM.  I'd say you want
> > at least 256MB, with 128MB of PermGen.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Jon Williams
> > <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > I'd like to know the Minimum Heap Size req'd to run the basic Tapestry
> 5
> > > archetype example smoothly.
> > > I am running my war on Jetty in a hosted environment.
> > >
> > > Currently I'm running in to issues with 64MB of heap.
> > > I don't have plans to make this app behave much beyond a static
> website.
> > > And I'd like to keep my hosting plan cheap as it's only $9/month. (
> > > http://jvmhost.com)
> > > What would you suggest?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Jon
> > >
> > > HTTP ERROR 500
> > >
> > > Problem accessing /site/. Reason:
> > >
> > >     GC overhead limit exceeded
> > >
> > > Caused by:
> > >
> > > java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *Powered by Jetty://*
> > > *
> > > *
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> >
> > Creator of Apache Tapestry
> >
> > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
> > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
> >
> > (971) 678-5210
> > http://howardlewisship.com
> >
>

Re: Minimum Heap Size to run basic Tapestry 5 archetype example smoothly

Posted by Dmitry Gusev <dm...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

This happened to me several times.
You will get 404 errors in OpenShift if there were any errors during
application start.
You should check your logs for errors one more time.


On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Jon Williams
<wi...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Dmitry,
>
> I've been pretty happy running my Tapestry apps on GAE until this morning
> when I realized
> GAE does not support Threads very well (or not in a way that is to my
> liking anyhow).
> So...
> I got set up at OpenShift today and I've run in to a spot of trouble.
> Judging by the logs my app is happily running.
> However hits to the URL are returning 404's.
> I was just wondering if you encountered any bumps getting your Tapestry 5
> app running on the Free OpenShift?
>
> thanks
> Jon
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Dmitry Gusev <dm...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I host some of our T5 apps on OpenShift.
>>
>> It has free plan with 512MB RAM and 1GB storage, works good so far, though
>> I haven't tried it with heavy load yet.
>>
>> https://www.openshift.com/faq#t6n11275
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hlship@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > The only problem with GAE is that GAE expects application launch to be
>> > cheap, and will often shut down your app until a request comes in.
>> >  Tapestry assumes a long-running application server, so it can be
>> > relatively slow to start up: about a second give or take on ordinary
>> > hardware (not sure about GAE), and possibly a bit longer depending on if
>> > you are doing anything else expensive at startup, such as using
>> Hibernate.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:55 AM, George Christman
>> > <gc...@cardaddy.com>wrote:
>> >
>> > > Barry, are running your app on Tomcat?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Barry Books <tr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I've run several sites on an Amazon EC2 micro instances which have
>> > about
>> > > > 600meg of memory and cost about $10 per month
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Kalle Korhonen
>> > > > <ka...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Tektonic's VPS systems have consistently had most amount of memory
>> > for
>> > > > the
>> > > > > buck and the lowest tier (1GB/$15/month) is nowadays good enough
>> for
>> > > > > running small T5 apps: http://tektonic.net/virtual-servers.html
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Kalle
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Jon Williams
>> > > > > <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Weill I went from $9/mo all the way up to $30/mo. Tapestry is
>> now
>> > > > costing
>> > > > > > me $21 a month. Ok, so if I make $30 a month off tapestry work,
>> my
>> > > work
>> > > > > > terrarium will thrive!
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks Howard
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <
>> > hlship@gmail.com
>> > > >
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Well, you can measure this kind of thing with VisualVM.  I'd
>> say
>> > > you
>> > > > > want
>> > > > > > > at least 256MB, with 128MB of PermGen.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Jon Williams
>> > > > > > > <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > I'd like to know the Minimum Heap Size req'd to run the
>> basic
>> > > > > Tapestry
>> > > > > > 5
>> > > > > > > > archetype example smoothly.
>> > > > > > > > I am running my war on Jetty in a hosted environment.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Currently I'm running in to issues with 64MB of heap.
>> > > > > > > > I don't have plans to make this app behave much beyond a
>> static
>> > > > > > website.
>> > > > > > > > And I'd like to keep my hosting plan cheap as it's only
>> > > $9/month. (
>> > > > > > > > http://jvmhost.com)
>> > > > > > > > What would you suggest?
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Thanks
>> > > > > > > > Jon
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > HTTP ERROR 500
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Problem accessing /site/. Reason:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >     GC overhead limit exceeded
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Caused by:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > ------------------------------
>> > > > > > > > *Powered by Jetty://*
>> > > > > > > > *
>> > > > > > > > *
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > Howard M. Lewis Ship
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Creator of Apache Tapestry
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support.
>> Contact
>> > me
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > (971) 678-5210
>> > > > > > > http://howardlewisship.com
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > George Christman
>> > > www.CarDaddy.com
>> > > P.O. Box 735
>> > > Johnstown, New York
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Howard M. Lewis Ship
>> >
>> > Creator of Apache Tapestry
>> >
>> > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
>> > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
>> >
>> > (971) 678-5210
>> > http://howardlewisship.com
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dmitry Gusev
>>
>> AnjLab Team
>> http://anjlab.com
>>
>
>


-- 
Dmitry Gusev

AnjLab Team
http://anjlab.com

Re: Minimum Heap Size to run basic Tapestry 5 archetype example smoothly

Posted by Jon Williams <wi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Dmitry,

I've been pretty happy running my Tapestry apps on GAE until this morning
when I realized
GAE does not support Threads very well (or not in a way that is to my
liking anyhow).
So...
I got set up at OpenShift today and I've run in to a spot of trouble.
Judging by the logs my app is happily running.
However hits to the URL are returning 404's.
I was just wondering if you encountered any bumps getting your Tapestry 5
app running on the Free OpenShift?

thanks
Jon


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Dmitry Gusev <dm...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I host some of our T5 apps on OpenShift.
>
> It has free plan with 512MB RAM and 1GB storage, works good so far, though
> I haven't tried it with heavy load yet.
>
> https://www.openshift.com/faq#t6n11275
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hlship@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > The only problem with GAE is that GAE expects application launch to be
> > cheap, and will often shut down your app until a request comes in.
> >  Tapestry assumes a long-running application server, so it can be
> > relatively slow to start up: about a second give or take on ordinary
> > hardware (not sure about GAE), and possibly a bit longer depending on if
> > you are doing anything else expensive at startup, such as using
> Hibernate.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:55 AM, George Christman
> > <gc...@cardaddy.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Barry, are running your app on Tomcat?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Barry Books <tr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've run several sites on an Amazon EC2 micro instances which have
> > about
> > > > 600meg of memory and cost about $10 per month
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Kalle Korhonen
> > > > <ka...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Tektonic's VPS systems have consistently had most amount of memory
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > buck and the lowest tier (1GB/$15/month) is nowadays good enough
> for
> > > > > running small T5 apps: http://tektonic.net/virtual-servers.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Kalle
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Jon Williams
> > > > > <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Weill I went from $9/mo all the way up to $30/mo. Tapestry is now
> > > > costing
> > > > > > me $21 a month. Ok, so if I make $30 a month off tapestry work,
> my
> > > work
> > > > > > terrarium will thrive!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Howard
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <
> > hlship@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, you can measure this kind of thing with VisualVM.  I'd
> say
> > > you
> > > > > want
> > > > > > > at least 256MB, with 128MB of PermGen.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Jon Williams
> > > > > > > <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'd like to know the Minimum Heap Size req'd to run the basic
> > > > > Tapestry
> > > > > > 5
> > > > > > > > archetype example smoothly.
> > > > > > > > I am running my war on Jetty in a hosted environment.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Currently I'm running in to issues with 64MB of heap.
> > > > > > > > I don't have plans to make this app behave much beyond a
> static
> > > > > > website.
> > > > > > > > And I'd like to keep my hosting plan cheap as it's only
> > > $9/month. (
> > > > > > > > http://jvmhost.com)
> > > > > > > > What would you suggest?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > HTTP ERROR 500
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Problem accessing /site/. Reason:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     GC overhead limit exceeded
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Caused by:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > > > *Powered by Jetty://*
> > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Creator of Apache Tapestry
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support.
> Contact
> > me
> > > > to
> > > > > > > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (971) 678-5210
> > > > > > > http://howardlewisship.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > George Christman
> > > www.CarDaddy.com
> > > P.O. Box 735
> > > Johnstown, New York
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> >
> > Creator of Apache Tapestry
> >
> > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
> > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
> >
> > (971) 678-5210
> > http://howardlewisship.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Dmitry Gusev
>
> AnjLab Team
> http://anjlab.com
>

Re: Minimum Heap Size to run basic Tapestry 5 archetype example smoothly

Posted by Dmitry Gusev <dm...@gmail.com>.
I host some of our T5 apps on OpenShift.

It has free plan with 512MB RAM and 1GB storage, works good so far, though
I haven't tried it with heavy load yet.

https://www.openshift.com/faq#t6n11275


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>wrote:

> The only problem with GAE is that GAE expects application launch to be
> cheap, and will often shut down your app until a request comes in.
>  Tapestry assumes a long-running application server, so it can be
> relatively slow to start up: about a second give or take on ordinary
> hardware (not sure about GAE), and possibly a bit longer depending on if
> you are doing anything else expensive at startup, such as using Hibernate.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:55 AM, George Christman
> <gc...@cardaddy.com>wrote:
>
> > Barry, are running your app on Tomcat?
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Barry Books <tr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I've run several sites on an Amazon EC2 micro instances which have
> about
> > > 600meg of memory and cost about $10 per month
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Kalle Korhonen
> > > <ka...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tektonic's VPS systems have consistently had most amount of memory
> for
> > > the
> > > > buck and the lowest tier (1GB/$15/month) is nowadays good enough for
> > > > running small T5 apps: http://tektonic.net/virtual-servers.html
> > > >
> > > > Kalle
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Jon Williams
> > > > <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Weill I went from $9/mo all the way up to $30/mo. Tapestry is now
> > > costing
> > > > > me $21 a month. Ok, so if I make $30 a month off tapestry work, my
> > work
> > > > > terrarium will thrive!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Howard
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <
> hlship@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well, you can measure this kind of thing with VisualVM.  I'd say
> > you
> > > > want
> > > > > > at least 256MB, with 128MB of PermGen.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Jon Williams
> > > > > > <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd like to know the Minimum Heap Size req'd to run the basic
> > > > Tapestry
> > > > > 5
> > > > > > > archetype example smoothly.
> > > > > > > I am running my war on Jetty in a hosted environment.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Currently I'm running in to issues with 64MB of heap.
> > > > > > > I don't have plans to make this app behave much beyond a static
> > > > > website.
> > > > > > > And I'd like to keep my hosting plan cheap as it's only
> > $9/month. (
> > > > > > > http://jvmhost.com)
> > > > > > > What would you suggest?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HTTP ERROR 500
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Problem accessing /site/. Reason:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     GC overhead limit exceeded
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Caused by:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > > *Powered by Jetty://*
> > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > *
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Creator of Apache Tapestry
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact
> me
> > > to
> > > > > > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (971) 678-5210
> > > > > > http://howardlewisship.com
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > George Christman
> > www.CarDaddy.com
> > P.O. Box 735
> > Johnstown, New York
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>
> Creator of Apache Tapestry
>
> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
> learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
>
> (971) 678-5210
> http://howardlewisship.com
>



-- 
Dmitry Gusev

AnjLab Team
http://anjlab.com

Re: Minimum Heap Size to run basic Tapestry 5 archetype example smoothly

Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
The only problem with GAE is that GAE expects application launch to be
cheap, and will often shut down your app until a request comes in.
 Tapestry assumes a long-running application server, so it can be
relatively slow to start up: about a second give or take on ordinary
hardware (not sure about GAE), and possibly a bit longer depending on if
you are doing anything else expensive at startup, such as using Hibernate.


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:55 AM, George Christman
<gc...@cardaddy.com>wrote:

> Barry, are running your app on Tomcat?
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Barry Books <tr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've run several sites on an Amazon EC2 micro instances which have about
> > 600meg of memory and cost about $10 per month
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Kalle Korhonen
> > <ka...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Tektonic's VPS systems have consistently had most amount of memory for
> > the
> > > buck and the lowest tier (1GB/$15/month) is nowadays good enough for
> > > running small T5 apps: http://tektonic.net/virtual-servers.html
> > >
> > > Kalle
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Jon Williams
> > > <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > Weill I went from $9/mo all the way up to $30/mo. Tapestry is now
> > costing
> > > > me $21 a month. Ok, so if I make $30 a month off tapestry work, my
> work
> > > > terrarium will thrive!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Howard
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hlship@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Well, you can measure this kind of thing with VisualVM.  I'd say
> you
> > > want
> > > > > at least 256MB, with 128MB of PermGen.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Jon Williams
> > > > > <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'd like to know the Minimum Heap Size req'd to run the basic
> > > Tapestry
> > > > 5
> > > > > > archetype example smoothly.
> > > > > > I am running my war on Jetty in a hosted environment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently I'm running in to issues with 64MB of heap.
> > > > > > I don't have plans to make this app behave much beyond a static
> > > > website.
> > > > > > And I'd like to keep my hosting plan cheap as it's only
> $9/month. (
> > > > > > http://jvmhost.com)
> > > > > > What would you suggest?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Jon
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTTP ERROR 500
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Problem accessing /site/. Reason:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     GC overhead limit exceeded
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Caused by:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > *Powered by Jetty://*
> > > > > > *
> > > > > > *
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> > > > >
> > > > > Creator of Apache Tapestry
> > > > >
> > > > > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me
> > to
> > > > > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
> > > > >
> > > > > (971) 678-5210
> > > > > http://howardlewisship.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> George Christman
> www.CarDaddy.com
> P.O. Box 735
> Johnstown, New York
>



-- 
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Creator of Apache Tapestry

The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!

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Re: Minimum Heap Size to run basic Tapestry 5 archetype example smoothly

Posted by Barry Books <tr...@gmail.com>.
yes I'm running under Tomcat


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 7:55 AM, George Christman
<gc...@cardaddy.com>wrote:

> Barry, are running your app on Tomcat?
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Barry Books <tr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've run several sites on an Amazon EC2 micro instances which have about
> > 600meg of memory and cost about $10 per month
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Kalle Korhonen
> > <ka...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Tektonic's VPS systems have consistently had most amount of memory for
> > the
> > > buck and the lowest tier (1GB/$15/month) is nowadays good enough for
> > > running small T5 apps: http://tektonic.net/virtual-servers.html
> > >
> > > Kalle
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Jon Williams
> > > <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > Weill I went from $9/mo all the way up to $30/mo. Tapestry is now
> > costing
> > > > me $21 a month. Ok, so if I make $30 a month off tapestry work, my
> work
> > > > terrarium will thrive!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Howard
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hlship@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Well, you can measure this kind of thing with VisualVM.  I'd say
> you
> > > want
> > > > > at least 256MB, with 128MB of PermGen.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Jon Williams
> > > > > <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'd like to know the Minimum Heap Size req'd to run the basic
> > > Tapestry
> > > > 5
> > > > > > archetype example smoothly.
> > > > > > I am running my war on Jetty in a hosted environment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently I'm running in to issues with 64MB of heap.
> > > > > > I don't have plans to make this app behave much beyond a static
> > > > website.
> > > > > > And I'd like to keep my hosting plan cheap as it's only
> $9/month. (
> > > > > > http://jvmhost.com)
> > > > > > What would you suggest?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Jon
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTTP ERROR 500
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Problem accessing /site/. Reason:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     GC overhead limit exceeded
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Caused by:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > *Powered by Jetty://*
> > > > > > *
> > > > > > *
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> > > > >
> > > > > Creator of Apache Tapestry
> > > > >
> > > > > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me
> > to
> > > > > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
> > > > >
> > > > > (971) 678-5210
> > > > > http://howardlewisship.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> George Christman
> www.CarDaddy.com
> P.O. Box 735
> Johnstown, New York
>

Re: Minimum Heap Size to run basic Tapestry 5 archetype example smoothly

Posted by George Christman <gc...@cardaddy.com>.
Barry, are running your app on Tomcat?


On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Barry Books <tr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've run several sites on an Amazon EC2 micro instances which have about
> 600meg of memory and cost about $10 per month
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Kalle Korhonen
> <ka...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Tektonic's VPS systems have consistently had most amount of memory for
> the
> > buck and the lowest tier (1GB/$15/month) is nowadays good enough for
> > running small T5 apps: http://tektonic.net/virtual-servers.html
> >
> > Kalle
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Jon Williams
> > <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Weill I went from $9/mo all the way up to $30/mo. Tapestry is now
> costing
> > > me $21 a month. Ok, so if I make $30 a month off tapestry work, my work
> > > terrarium will thrive!
> > >
> > > Thanks Howard
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, you can measure this kind of thing with VisualVM.  I'd say you
> > want
> > > > at least 256MB, with 128MB of PermGen.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Jon Williams
> > > > <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'd like to know the Minimum Heap Size req'd to run the basic
> > Tapestry
> > > 5
> > > > > archetype example smoothly.
> > > > > I am running my war on Jetty in a hosted environment.
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently I'm running in to issues with 64MB of heap.
> > > > > I don't have plans to make this app behave much beyond a static
> > > website.
> > > > > And I'd like to keep my hosting plan cheap as it's only $9/month. (
> > > > > http://jvmhost.com)
> > > > > What would you suggest?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Jon
> > > > >
> > > > > HTTP ERROR 500
> > > > >
> > > > > Problem accessing /site/. Reason:
> > > > >
> > > > >     GC overhead limit exceeded
> > > > >
> > > > > Caused by:
> > > > >
> > > > > java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > *Powered by Jetty://*
> > > > > *
> > > > > *
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> > > >
> > > > Creator of Apache Tapestry
> > > >
> > > > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me
> to
> > > > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
> > > >
> > > > (971) 678-5210
> > > > http://howardlewisship.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



-- 
George Christman
www.CarDaddy.com
P.O. Box 735
Johnstown, New York

Re: Minimum Heap Size to run basic Tapestry 5 archetype example smoothly

Posted by Jon Williams <wi...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the suggestions.
I decided to put it on the Google app engine.
This appears to be free for my simple app.
The app is running smoothly with the following VM specs:
CPU 600MHz
RAM 128MB

It was very easy to set up with a Maven plugin or jetbrains Idea 12U.
Also they use a DNS Cname handle on your DNS server, which makes
it possible have your own custom URL eg. http://site.mydomain.org
for your hosted app.

Tapestry is free again. Mission accomplished!


On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Barry Books <tr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've run several sites on an Amazon EC2 micro instances which have about
> 600meg of memory and cost about $10 per month
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Kalle Korhonen
> <ka...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Tektonic's VPS systems have consistently had most amount of memory for
> the
> > buck and the lowest tier (1GB/$15/month) is nowadays good enough for
> > running small T5 apps: http://tektonic.net/virtual-servers.html
> >
> > Kalle
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Jon Williams
> > <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Weill I went from $9/mo all the way up to $30/mo. Tapestry is now
> costing
> > > me $21 a month. Ok, so if I make $30 a month off tapestry work, my work
> > > terrarium will thrive!
> > >
> > > Thanks Howard
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, you can measure this kind of thing with VisualVM.  I'd say you
> > want
> > > > at least 256MB, with 128MB of PermGen.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Jon Williams
> > > > <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'd like to know the Minimum Heap Size req'd to run the basic
> > Tapestry
> > > 5
> > > > > archetype example smoothly.
> > > > > I am running my war on Jetty in a hosted environment.
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently I'm running in to issues with 64MB of heap.
> > > > > I don't have plans to make this app behave much beyond a static
> > > website.
> > > > > And I'd like to keep my hosting plan cheap as it's only $9/month. (
> > > > > http://jvmhost.com)
> > > > > What would you suggest?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Jon
> > > > >
> > > > > HTTP ERROR 500
> > > > >
> > > > > Problem accessing /site/. Reason:
> > > > >
> > > > >     GC overhead limit exceeded
> > > > >
> > > > > Caused by:
> > > > >
> > > > > java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > *Powered by Jetty://*
> > > > > *
> > > > > *
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> > > >
> > > > Creator of Apache Tapestry
> > > >
> > > > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me
> to
> > > > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
> > > >
> > > > (971) 678-5210
> > > > http://howardlewisship.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Minimum Heap Size to run basic Tapestry 5 archetype example smoothly

Posted by Barry Books <tr...@gmail.com>.
I've run several sites on an Amazon EC2 micro instances which have about
600meg of memory and cost about $10 per month


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Kalle Korhonen
<ka...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Tektonic's VPS systems have consistently had most amount of memory for the
> buck and the lowest tier (1GB/$15/month) is nowadays good enough for
> running small T5 apps: http://tektonic.net/virtual-servers.html
>
> Kalle
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Jon Williams
> <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Weill I went from $9/mo all the way up to $30/mo. Tapestry is now costing
> > me $21 a month. Ok, so if I make $30 a month off tapestry work, my work
> > terrarium will thrive!
> >
> > Thanks Howard
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Well, you can measure this kind of thing with VisualVM.  I'd say you
> want
> > > at least 256MB, with 128MB of PermGen.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Jon Williams
> > > <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'd like to know the Minimum Heap Size req'd to run the basic
> Tapestry
> > 5
> > > > archetype example smoothly.
> > > > I am running my war on Jetty in a hosted environment.
> > > >
> > > > Currently I'm running in to issues with 64MB of heap.
> > > > I don't have plans to make this app behave much beyond a static
> > website.
> > > > And I'd like to keep my hosting plan cheap as it's only $9/month. (
> > > > http://jvmhost.com)
> > > > What would you suggest?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Jon
> > > >
> > > > HTTP ERROR 500
> > > >
> > > > Problem accessing /site/. Reason:
> > > >
> > > >     GC overhead limit exceeded
> > > >
> > > > Caused by:
> > > >
> > > > java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > *Powered by Jetty://*
> > > > *
> > > > *
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> > >
> > > Creator of Apache Tapestry
> > >
> > > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
> > > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
> > >
> > > (971) 678-5210
> > > http://howardlewisship.com
> > >
> >
>

Re: Minimum Heap Size to run basic Tapestry 5 archetype example smoothly

Posted by Kalle Korhonen <ka...@gmail.com>.
Tektonic's VPS systems have consistently had most amount of memory for the
buck and the lowest tier (1GB/$15/month) is nowadays good enough for
running small T5 apps: http://tektonic.net/virtual-servers.html

Kalle


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Jon Williams
<wi...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Weill I went from $9/mo all the way up to $30/mo. Tapestry is now costing
> me $21 a month. Ok, so if I make $30 a month off tapestry work, my work
> terrarium will thrive!
>
> Thanks Howard
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Well, you can measure this kind of thing with VisualVM.  I'd say you want
> > at least 256MB, with 128MB of PermGen.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Jon Williams
> > <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > I'd like to know the Minimum Heap Size req'd to run the basic Tapestry
> 5
> > > archetype example smoothly.
> > > I am running my war on Jetty in a hosted environment.
> > >
> > > Currently I'm running in to issues with 64MB of heap.
> > > I don't have plans to make this app behave much beyond a static
> website.
> > > And I'd like to keep my hosting plan cheap as it's only $9/month. (
> > > http://jvmhost.com)
> > > What would you suggest?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Jon
> > >
> > > HTTP ERROR 500
> > >
> > > Problem accessing /site/. Reason:
> > >
> > >     GC overhead limit exceeded
> > >
> > > Caused by:
> > >
> > > java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *Powered by Jetty://*
> > > *
> > > *
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> >
> > Creator of Apache Tapestry
> >
> > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
> > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
> >
> > (971) 678-5210
> > http://howardlewisship.com
> >
>

Re: Minimum Heap Size to run basic Tapestry 5 archetype example smoothly

Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
Do you have any idea how much Tapestry costs me per month?  Every hour I
put into it is one hour less billing, and that adds up! I can't always do
maintenance and improvement work for Tapestry on a client's budget, often I
eat the time.

But I still feel I'm coming out ahead of the game.


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Jon Williams
<wi...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Weill I went from $9/mo all the way up to $30/mo. Tapestry is now costing
> me $21 a month. Ok, so if I make $30 a month off tapestry work, my work
> terrarium will thrive!
>
> Thanks Howard
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Well, you can measure this kind of thing with VisualVM.  I'd say you want
> > at least 256MB, with 128MB of PermGen.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Jon Williams
> > <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > I'd like to know the Minimum Heap Size req'd to run the basic Tapestry
> 5
> > > archetype example smoothly.
> > > I am running my war on Jetty in a hosted environment.
> > >
> > > Currently I'm running in to issues with 64MB of heap.
> > > I don't have plans to make this app behave much beyond a static
> website.
> > > And I'd like to keep my hosting plan cheap as it's only $9/month. (
> > > http://jvmhost.com)
> > > What would you suggest?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Jon
> > >
> > > HTTP ERROR 500
> > >
> > > Problem accessing /site/. Reason:
> > >
> > >     GC overhead limit exceeded
> > >
> > > Caused by:
> > >
> > > java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *Powered by Jetty://*
> > > *
> > > *
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> >
> > Creator of Apache Tapestry
> >
> > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
> > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
> >
> > (971) 678-5210
> > http://howardlewisship.com
> >
>



-- 
Howard M. Lewis Ship

Creator of Apache Tapestry

The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!

(971) 678-5210
http://howardlewisship.com

Re: Minimum Heap Size to run basic Tapestry 5 archetype example smoothly

Posted by Jon Williams <wi...@gmail.com>.
Weill I went from $9/mo all the way up to $30/mo. Tapestry is now costing
me $21 a month. Ok, so if I make $30 a month off tapestry work, my work
terrarium will thrive!

Thanks Howard


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, you can measure this kind of thing with VisualVM.  I'd say you want
> at least 256MB, with 128MB of PermGen.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Jon Williams
> <wi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > I'd like to know the Minimum Heap Size req'd to run the basic Tapestry 5
> > archetype example smoothly.
> > I am running my war on Jetty in a hosted environment.
> >
> > Currently I'm running in to issues with 64MB of heap.
> > I don't have plans to make this app behave much beyond a static website.
> > And I'd like to keep my hosting plan cheap as it's only $9/month. (
> > http://jvmhost.com)
> > What would you suggest?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jon
> >
> > HTTP ERROR 500
> >
> > Problem accessing /site/. Reason:
> >
> >     GC overhead limit exceeded
> >
> > Caused by:
> >
> > java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *Powered by Jetty://*
> > *
> > *
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>
> Creator of Apache Tapestry
>
> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
> learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
>
> (971) 678-5210
> http://howardlewisship.com
>

Re: Minimum Heap Size to run basic Tapestry 5 archetype example smoothly

Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
Well, you can measure this kind of thing with VisualVM.  I'd say you want
at least 256MB, with 128MB of PermGen.


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Jon Williams
<wi...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I'd like to know the Minimum Heap Size req'd to run the basic Tapestry 5
> archetype example smoothly.
> I am running my war on Jetty in a hosted environment.
>
> Currently I'm running in to issues with 64MB of heap.
> I don't have plans to make this app behave much beyond a static website.
> And I'd like to keep my hosting plan cheap as it's only $9/month. (
> http://jvmhost.com)
> What would you suggest?
>
> Thanks
> Jon
>
> HTTP ERROR 500
>
> Problem accessing /site/. Reason:
>
>     GC overhead limit exceeded
>
> Caused by:
>
> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded
>
> ------------------------------
> *Powered by Jetty://*
> *
> *
>



-- 
Howard M. Lewis Ship

Creator of Apache Tapestry

The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to
learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!

(971) 678-5210
http://howardlewisship.com