[jira] [Comment Edited] (PDFBOX-1527) Added table cells, page breaking, line, breaking, and transliteration

["Glen Peterson (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>]

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Glen Peterson edited comment on PDFBOX-1527 at 9/1/14 9:00 AM:
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Tilman Hausherr: I've replaced the files with the verses removed.  I'm not trying to promote any countries or their views with the national anthems, they are merely a convenient way to test character sets.  It's good timing because I just improved table handling.

Yes PdfLayoutManager has "cellpadding" like HTML (the space between a cell border and the contents), but not "cellspacing" (the space between borders of adjacent cells).  There is a bug where it doesn't handle a negative cell interior width, so you have to be a little careful, but it works. 
http://blog.planbase.com/2014/08/metric-review-pdf-report.html

Questions like this are specific to PdfLayoutManager, not PDFBox, so future ones should go on GitHub here:
https://github.com/GlenKPeterson/PdfLayoutManager/issues

We should probably revisit merging that code into PDFBox at some point, but PlanBase added limitations to the scope of the Apache PDFBox contributors agreement which were not acceptable to the Apache Foundation.  No one is at fault here except possibly myself.  The license is the same, the general concept of the Apache Contributors Agreement is acceptable, but PlanBase is a for-profit company who generally doesn't want their code used by competitors.  Limiting the scope of potential contributions is important to PlanBase.

Contributing paid development done under NDA to an open source project is a delicate experiment.  PlanBase is built on open source software (carefully, legally, and honoring the license terms), and PdfLayoutManager is what we give back.  If someone were to add functionality to PdfLayoutManager, or clean up the code, fix bugs, whatever, that might give open source participation at PlanBase some political capital that might be used to revisit the scope of the contributors agreement.  No promises.  As with any open-source project or legal hurdle, patience is required...

I certainly don't want to take any development effort away from PDFBox or offer false hope that PdfLayoutManager will ever be merged into it.  Just laying out the most likely path as I see it.

Constructive criticism is welcome, but please be aware that anyone could be watching this conversation and keep it polite and positive if your aim is to grease the wheels of any legal headway on this issue.  That probably goes for any open-source project, but certainly bears repeating here.


was (Author: glen@organicdesign.org):
Tilman Hausherr: I've replaced the files with the verses removed.  I'm not trying to promote any countries or their views with the national anthems, they are merely a convenient way to test character sets.  It's good timing because I just improved table handling.

Yes PdfLayoutManager has "cellpadding" like HTML (the space between a cell border and the contents), but not "cellspacing" (the space between borders of adjacent cells).  There is a bug where it doesn't handle a negative cell interior width, so you have to be a little careful, but it works. 
http://blog.planbase.com/2014/08/metric-review-pdf-report.html

Questions like this are specific to PdfLayoutManager, not PDFBox, so future ones should go on GitHub here:
https://github.com/GlenKPeterson/PdfLayoutManager/issues

We should probably revisit merging that code into PDFBox at some point, but PlanBase added limitations to the scope of the Apache PDFBox contributors agreement which were not acceptable to the Apache Foundation.  No one is at fault here except possibly myself.  The license is the same, the general concept of the Apache Contributors Agreement is acceptable, but PlanBase is a for-profit company who doesn't want their code used by competitors.  Limiting the scope of potential contributions is important to PlanBase.

Contributing paid development done under NDA to an open source project is a delicate experiment.  PlanBase is built on open source software (carefully, legally, and honoring the license terms), and PdfLayoutManager is what we give back.  If someone were to add functionality to PdfLayoutManager, or clean up the code, fix bugs, whatever, that might give open source participation at PlanBase some political capital that might be used to revisit the scope of the contributors agreement.  No promises.  As with any open-source project or legal hurdle, patience is required...

I certainly don't want to take any development effort away from PDFBox or offer false hope that PdfLayoutManager will ever be merged into it.  Just laying out the most likely path as I see it.

Constructive criticism is welcome, but please be aware that anyone could be watching this conversation and keep it polite and positive if your aim is to grease the wheels of any legal headway on this issue.  That probably goes for any open-source project, but certainly bears repeating here.

> Added table cells, page breaking, line, breaking, and transliteration
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>                 Key: PDFBOX-1527
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PDFBOX-1527
>             Project: PDFBox
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: Writing
>    Affects Versions: 1.8.0
>            Reporter: Glen Peterson
>              Labels: features
>         Attachments: TestPdfLayoutMgr.java, test.pdf
>
>
> PlanBase and I would like to contribute our line-breaking, page-breaking, table cell, and transliteration code to the PDFBox project.  I think someone on the mailing list asked me to open an issue here and attach a patch, so that is what I'm doing.



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