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[jira] Created: (INFRA-1640) Please review spam filter, seems to
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Please review spam filter, seems to strict
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Key: INFRA-1640
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1640
Project: Infrastructure
Issue Type: Wish
Security Level: public (Regular issues)
Components: Mailing Lists
Environment: WinXP SP3, MSOE
Reporter: Benjamin Bentmann
I am contributing to Maven and recently experienced ongoing rejections of my posts to our mailing lists because of the mail's spam rating. After some discussion [0], I decided to create this issue.
Some hints that might help to locate the problem:
My last successful post dated back to June the 1st, I encountered my first rejection on June the 6th. I managed to post mails by using alternative user agents, i.e. SquirrelMail and Nabble worked, in contrast to my primary user agent MS Outlook Express. I recently updated my WinXP box with SP3, maybe the bump in version number affects the spam filter.
[0] http://www.nabble.com/Spam-Rating-of-Mails-to17706671.html
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-1640) Please review spam filter, seems to
strict
Posted by "Joe Schaefer (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Joe Schaefer commented on INFRA-1640:
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I zeroed out the FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK rule
for our servers.
> Please review spam filter, seems to strict
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>
> Key: INFRA-1640
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1640
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Wish
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mail (qmail)
> Environment: WinXP SP3, MSOE
> Reporter: Benjamin Bentmann
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: bb.txt, Re_ Spam Rating of Mails.eml, Returned Mail_ Re_ confirm subscribe to wagon-dev@maven_apache_org.eml, Returned mail_ see transcript for details.eml
>
>
> I am contributing to Maven and recently experienced ongoing rejections of my posts to our mailing lists because of the mail's spam rating. After some discussion [0], I decided to create this issue.
> Some hints that might help to locate the problem:
> My last successful post dated back to June the 1st, I encountered my first rejection on June the 6th. I managed to post mails by using alternative user agents, i.e. SquirrelMail and Nabble worked, in contrast to my primary user agent MS Outlook Express. I recently updated my WinXP box with SP3, maybe the bump in version number affects the spam filter.
> [0] http://www.nabble.com/Spam-Rating-of-Mails-to17706671.html
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-1640) Please review spam filter, seems to
strict
Posted by "Benjamin Bentmann (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Benjamin Bentmann commented on INFRA-1640:
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Yes, it's really an issue with SpamAssassin and MSOE on XP SP3:
https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5910
> Please review spam filter, seems to strict
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>
> Key: INFRA-1640
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1640
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Wish
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mail (qmail)
> Environment: WinXP SP3, MSOE
> Reporter: Benjamin Bentmann
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: bb.txt, Re_ Spam Rating of Mails.eml, Returned Mail_ Re_ confirm subscribe to wagon-dev@maven_apache_org.eml, Returned mail_ see transcript for details.eml
>
>
> I am contributing to Maven and recently experienced ongoing rejections of my posts to our mailing lists because of the mail's spam rating. After some discussion [0], I decided to create this issue.
> Some hints that might help to locate the problem:
> My last successful post dated back to June the 1st, I encountered my first rejection on June the 6th. I managed to post mails by using alternative user agents, i.e. SquirrelMail and Nabble worked, in contrast to my primary user agent MS Outlook Express. I recently updated my WinXP box with SP3, maybe the bump in version number affects the spam filter.
> [0] http://www.nabble.com/Spam-Rating-of-Mails-to17706671.html
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-1640) Please review spam filter, seems to
strict
Posted by "Justin Mason (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Justin Mason commented on INFRA-1640:
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fwiw, if you are running SA 3.2.x and can run "sa-update", the current ruleset has this fixed (as https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5496#c10 notes).
> Please review spam filter, seems to strict
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1640
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1640
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Wish
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mail (qmail)
> Environment: WinXP SP3, MSOE
> Reporter: Benjamin Bentmann
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: bb.txt, Re_ Spam Rating of Mails.eml, Returned Mail_ Re_ confirm subscribe to wagon-dev@maven_apache_org.eml, Returned mail_ see transcript for details.eml
>
>
> I am contributing to Maven and recently experienced ongoing rejections of my posts to our mailing lists because of the mail's spam rating. After some discussion [0], I decided to create this issue.
> Some hints that might help to locate the problem:
> My last successful post dated back to June the 1st, I encountered my first rejection on June the 6th. I managed to post mails by using alternative user agents, i.e. SquirrelMail and Nabble worked, in contrast to my primary user agent MS Outlook Express. I recently updated my WinXP box with SP3, maybe the bump in version number affects the spam filter.
> [0] http://www.nabble.com/Spam-Rating-of-Mails-to17706671.html
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-1640) Please review spam filter, seems to
strict
Posted by "Benjamin Bentmann (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Benjamin Bentmann commented on INFRA-1640:
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Well, thanks so far. I have just migrated to Thunderbird and are fine either way. Feel free to close this issue or leave it open as a reminder to update to the latest SpamAssassin once it gets released.
> Please review spam filter, seems to strict
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1640
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1640
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Wish
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mail (qmail)
> Environment: WinXP SP3, MSOE
> Reporter: Benjamin Bentmann
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: bb.txt, Re_ Spam Rating of Mails.eml, Returned Mail_ Re_ confirm subscribe to wagon-dev@maven_apache_org.eml, Returned mail_ see transcript for details.eml
>
>
> I am contributing to Maven and recently experienced ongoing rejections of my posts to our mailing lists because of the mail's spam rating. After some discussion [0], I decided to create this issue.
> Some hints that might help to locate the problem:
> My last successful post dated back to June the 1st, I encountered my first rejection on June the 6th. I managed to post mails by using alternative user agents, i.e. SquirrelMail and Nabble worked, in contrast to my primary user agent MS Outlook Express. I recently updated my WinXP box with SP3, maybe the bump in version number affects the spam filter.
> [0] http://www.nabble.com/Spam-Rating-of-Mails-to17706671.html
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[jira] Updated: (INFRA-1640) Please review spam filter, seems to
strict
Posted by "Roy T. Fielding (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Roy T. Fielding updated INFRA-1640:
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Attachment: bb.txt
My hosting provider for gbiv.com marked your test message as spam.
I retrieved it from quarantine and will attach it.
The main rules it triggered were FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.049.
The latter is just because of the subject. I don't know why it thinks you have a
forged MUA.
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
However, it is clear this is not limited to Apache. You will be blocked by most sites
that use spamassassin.
> Please review spam filter, seems to strict
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1640
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1640
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Wish
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mail (qmail)
> Environment: WinXP SP3, MSOE
> Reporter: Benjamin Bentmann
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: bb.txt, Re_ Spam Rating of Mails.eml, Returned Mail_ Re_ confirm subscribe to wagon-dev@maven_apache_org.eml, Returned mail_ see transcript for details.eml
>
>
> I am contributing to Maven and recently experienced ongoing rejections of my posts to our mailing lists because of the mail's spam rating. After some discussion [0], I decided to create this issue.
> Some hints that might help to locate the problem:
> My last successful post dated back to June the 1st, I encountered my first rejection on June the 6th. I managed to post mails by using alternative user agents, i.e. SquirrelMail and Nabble worked, in contrast to my primary user agent MS Outlook Express. I recently updated my WinXP box with SP3, maybe the bump in version number affects the spam filter.
> [0] http://www.nabble.com/Spam-Rating-of-Mails-to17706671.html
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-1640) Please review spam filter, seems to
strict
Posted by "Roy T. Fielding (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Roy T. Fielding commented on INFRA-1640:
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There are a couple issues that I can see. First, the MTA that you are using is
scanning spam on both outgoing and incoming email and blowing away the
header fields that would tell us what the Apache MTA thinks. Also, the client
is sending a truly unique and bizarre form of content-type folded across four lines
Content-Type: text/plain;
format=flowed;
charset="UTF-8";
reply-type=original
I suggest using a real mail client or arrange for a Google mail account for
sending mail via SMTP. Most likely, the problem is due to something that
unimail.uni-dortmund.de is adding to outgoing messages. If you want to
check that, send an email to my address of fielding at gbiv.com
> Please review spam filter, seems to strict
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1640
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1640
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Wish
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Environment: WinXP SP3, MSOE
> Reporter: Benjamin Bentmann
> Attachments: Re_ Spam Rating of Mails.eml, Returned mail_ see transcript for details.eml
>
>
> I am contributing to Maven and recently experienced ongoing rejections of my posts to our mailing lists because of the mail's spam rating. After some discussion [0], I decided to create this issue.
> Some hints that might help to locate the problem:
> My last successful post dated back to June the 1st, I encountered my first rejection on June the 6th. I managed to post mails by using alternative user agents, i.e. SquirrelMail and Nabble worked, in contrast to my primary user agent MS Outlook Express. I recently updated my WinXP box with SP3, maybe the bump in version number affects the spam filter.
> [0] http://www.nabble.com/Spam-Rating-of-Mails-to17706671.html
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[jira] Updated: (INFRA-1640) Please review spam filter, seems to
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Posted by "Benjamin Bentmann (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Benjamin Bentmann updated INFRA-1640:
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Attachment: Returned Mail_ Re_ confirm subscribe to wagon-dev@maven_apache_org.eml
bq. Also, the client is sending a truly unique and bizarre form of content-type folded across four lines
This applies to all my former accepted mails as well, i.e. this hasn't changed on my side.
bq. Most likely, the problem is due to something that unimail.uni-dortmund.de is adding to outgoing messages
Just tried another mail account, same problem (see attachment).
bq. If you want to check that, send an email to my address of fielding at gbiv.com
It's out.
> Please review spam filter, seems to strict
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1640
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1640
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Wish
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mail (qmail)
> Environment: WinXP SP3, MSOE
> Reporter: Benjamin Bentmann
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: Re_ Spam Rating of Mails.eml, Returned Mail_ Re_ confirm subscribe to wagon-dev@maven_apache_org.eml, Returned mail_ see transcript for details.eml
>
>
> I am contributing to Maven and recently experienced ongoing rejections of my posts to our mailing lists because of the mail's spam rating. After some discussion [0], I decided to create this issue.
> Some hints that might help to locate the problem:
> My last successful post dated back to June the 1st, I encountered my first rejection on June the 6th. I managed to post mails by using alternative user agents, i.e. SquirrelMail and Nabble worked, in contrast to my primary user agent MS Outlook Express. I recently updated my WinXP box with SP3, maybe the bump in version number affects the spam filter.
> [0] http://www.nabble.com/Spam-Rating-of-Mails-to17706671.html
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[jira] Updated: (INFRA-1640) Please review spam filter, seems to
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Posted by "Roy T. Fielding (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Roy T. Fielding updated INFRA-1640:
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Component/s: (was: Mailing Lists)
Mail (qmail)
Priority: Minor (was: Major)
> Please review spam filter, seems to strict
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>
> Key: INFRA-1640
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1640
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Wish
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mail (qmail)
> Environment: WinXP SP3, MSOE
> Reporter: Benjamin Bentmann
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: Re_ Spam Rating of Mails.eml, Returned mail_ see transcript for details.eml
>
>
> I am contributing to Maven and recently experienced ongoing rejections of my posts to our mailing lists because of the mail's spam rating. After some discussion [0], I decided to create this issue.
> Some hints that might help to locate the problem:
> My last successful post dated back to June the 1st, I encountered my first rejection on June the 6th. I managed to post mails by using alternative user agents, i.e. SquirrelMail and Nabble worked, in contrast to my primary user agent MS Outlook Express. I recently updated my WinXP box with SP3, maybe the bump in version number affects the spam filter.
> [0] http://www.nabble.com/Spam-Rating-of-Mails-to17706671.html
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[jira] Updated: (INFRA-1640) Please review spam filter, seems to
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Posted by "Benjamin Bentmann (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Benjamin Bentmann updated INFRA-1640:
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Attachment: Returned mail_ see transcript for details.eml
Re_ Spam Rating of Mails.eml
Here is a copy of a mail that was rejected, together with the corresponding bounce mail.
> Please review spam filter, seems to strict
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>
> Key: INFRA-1640
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1640
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Wish
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Environment: WinXP SP3, MSOE
> Reporter: Benjamin Bentmann
> Attachments: Re_ Spam Rating of Mails.eml, Returned mail_ see transcript for details.eml
>
>
> I am contributing to Maven and recently experienced ongoing rejections of my posts to our mailing lists because of the mail's spam rating. After some discussion [0], I decided to create this issue.
> Some hints that might help to locate the problem:
> My last successful post dated back to June the 1st, I encountered my first rejection on June the 6th. I managed to post mails by using alternative user agents, i.e. SquirrelMail and Nabble worked, in contrast to my primary user agent MS Outlook Express. I recently updated my WinXP box with SP3, maybe the bump in version number affects the spam filter.
> [0] http://www.nabble.com/Spam-Rating-of-Mails-to17706671.html
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[jira] Closed: (INFRA-1640) Please review spam filter, seems to
strict
Posted by "Joe Schaefer (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Joe Schaefer closed INFRA-1640.
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Resolution: Fixed
This was handled already.
> Please review spam filter, seems to strict
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1640
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1640
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Wish
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mail (qmail)
> Environment: WinXP SP3, MSOE
> Reporter: Benjamin Bentmann
> Priority: Minor
> Attachments: bb.txt, Re_ Spam Rating of Mails.eml, Returned Mail_ Re_ confirm subscribe to wagon-dev@maven_apache_org.eml, Returned mail_ see transcript for details.eml
>
>
> I am contributing to Maven and recently experienced ongoing rejections of my posts to our mailing lists because of the mail's spam rating. After some discussion [0], I decided to create this issue.
> Some hints that might help to locate the problem:
> My last successful post dated back to June the 1st, I encountered my first rejection on June the 6th. I managed to post mails by using alternative user agents, i.e. SquirrelMail and Nabble worked, in contrast to my primary user agent MS Outlook Express. I recently updated my WinXP box with SP3, maybe the bump in version number affects the spam filter.
> [0] http://www.nabble.com/Spam-Rating-of-Mails-to17706671.html
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