[DISCUSS] Status of this project

[Andreas Neumann <an...@apache.org>]

Hello everybody,

Observing that this project is not making much progress towards graduation,
the community has not grown much over the last year, and not many new
features have been added, activity overall is pretty low and the project
seems a bit stagnating.

I am wondering whether we should think about next steps for Tephra: Can it
graduate? Could it be a valuable contribution to another project, for
example Phoenix? If not, what would it take to get there? Or should it be
retired?

Just throwing out thoughts - wondering what's the sentiment in this group?

Cheers -Andreas.

Re: [DISCUSS] Status of this project

[Gary Helmling <gh...@gmail.com>]

I agree that graduating into an existing TLP seems like the best outcome
here.  If the Phoenix community is interested, that seems like a great
target as one of the primary consumers of Tephra.

Any thoughts on how this would impact CDAP. development, the other primary
consumer of Tephra?

Is there any direct usage of Tephra out there that we're aware of?

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 4:09 PM Andreas Neumann <an...@apache.org> wrote:

> I agree, Alan. I will wait a few more days to give everybody here a chance
> to chime in. If I hear nothing else, reaching out to Phoenix will be the
> next step.
> Cheers -Andreas
>
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 9:04 AM Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Based on my observation of this podling over the last couple of years I
> > don't think its community currently has sufficient momentum be a TLP.  So
> > if Phoenix or another project is interested in accepting Tephra then that
> > looks like a good option to me.
> >
> > Alan.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 8:49 PM Andrew Purtell <andrew.purtell@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Graduating into an existing TLP is definitely an option for exiting the
> > > Incubator. If you’d like to pursue it you should begin a discussion on
> > the
> > > Phoenix dev list. Tephra could be merged in as the transaction oracle
> > that
> > > ships out of the box for transactional tables, there’s a lot about that
> > > which makes sense.
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Jun 21, 2019, at 3:36 PM, Andreas Neumann <an...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello everybody,
> > > >
> > > > Observing that this project is not making much progress towards
> > > graduation,
> > > > the community has not grown much over the last year, and not many new
> > > > features have been added, activity overall is pretty low and the
> > project
> > > > seems a bit stagnating.
> > > >
> > > > I am wondering whether we should think about next steps for Tephra:
> Can
> > > it
> > > > graduate? Could it be a valuable contribution to another project, for
> > > > example Phoenix? If not, what would it take to get there? Or should
> it
> > be
> > > > retired?
> > > >
> > > > Just throwing out thoughts - wondering what's the sentiment in this
> > > group?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers -Andreas.
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Status of this project

[Andreas Neumann <an...@apache.org>]

I agree, Alan. I will wait a few more days to give everybody here a chance
to chime in. If I hear nothing else, reaching out to Phoenix will be the
next step.
Cheers -Andreas

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 9:04 AM Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Based on my observation of this podling over the last couple of years I
> don't think its community currently has sufficient momentum be a TLP.  So
> if Phoenix or another project is interested in accepting Tephra then that
> looks like a good option to me.
>
> Alan.
>
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 8:49 PM Andrew Purtell <an...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Graduating into an existing TLP is definitely an option for exiting the
> > Incubator. If you’d like to pursue it you should begin a discussion on
> the
> > Phoenix dev list. Tephra could be merged in as the transaction oracle
> that
> > ships out of the box for transactional tables, there’s a lot about that
> > which makes sense.
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 21, 2019, at 3:36 PM, Andreas Neumann <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello everybody,
> > >
> > > Observing that this project is not making much progress towards
> > graduation,
> > > the community has not grown much over the last year, and not many new
> > > features have been added, activity overall is pretty low and the
> project
> > > seems a bit stagnating.
> > >
> > > I am wondering whether we should think about next steps for Tephra: Can
> > it
> > > graduate? Could it be a valuable contribution to another project, for
> > > example Phoenix? If not, what would it take to get there? Or should it
> be
> > > retired?
> > >
> > > Just throwing out thoughts - wondering what's the sentiment in this
> > group?
> > >
> > > Cheers -Andreas.
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Status of this project

[Alan Gates <al...@gmail.com>]

Based on my observation of this podling over the last couple of years I
don't think its community currently has sufficient momentum be a TLP.  So
if Phoenix or another project is interested in accepting Tephra then that
looks like a good option to me.

Alan.

On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 8:49 PM Andrew Purtell <an...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Graduating into an existing TLP is definitely an option for exiting the
> Incubator. If you’d like to pursue it you should begin a discussion on the
> Phoenix dev list. Tephra could be merged in as the transaction oracle that
> ships out of the box for transactional tables, there’s a lot about that
> which makes sense.
>
>
> > On Jun 21, 2019, at 3:36 PM, Andreas Neumann <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > Observing that this project is not making much progress towards
> graduation,
> > the community has not grown much over the last year, and not many new
> > features have been added, activity overall is pretty low and the project
> > seems a bit stagnating.
> >
> > I am wondering whether we should think about next steps for Tephra: Can
> it
> > graduate? Could it be a valuable contribution to another project, for
> > example Phoenix? If not, what would it take to get there? Or should it be
> > retired?
> >
> > Just throwing out thoughts - wondering what's the sentiment in this
> group?
> >
> > Cheers -Andreas.
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Status of this project

[Andrew Purtell <an...@gmail.com>]

Graduating into an existing TLP is definitely an option for exiting the Incubator. If you’d like to pursue it you should begin a discussion on the Phoenix dev list. Tephra could be merged in as the transaction oracle that ships out of the box for transactional tables, there’s a lot about that which makes sense. 


> On Jun 21, 2019, at 3:36 PM, Andreas Neumann <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody,
> 
> Observing that this project is not making much progress towards graduation,
> the community has not grown much over the last year, and not many new
> features have been added, activity overall is pretty low and the project
> seems a bit stagnating.
> 
> I am wondering whether we should think about next steps for Tephra: Can it
> graduate? Could it be a valuable contribution to another project, for
> example Phoenix? If not, what would it take to get there? Or should it be
> retired?
> 
> Just throwing out thoughts - wondering what's the sentiment in this group?
> 
> Cheers -Andreas.